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£1200 - Second Hand Build Worth It?

Afternoon all,

 

Other one was sold, found this here's the build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/DBZQD2

 

Guy wanted £1300 got it down to £1200.

 

The GPU is the 11gbps edition as you can see by photo.

 

It's 6 Months old build, all parts bought on amazon,he can get me the full invoice print out for parts, GPU 3 year warranty transferable through EVGA, guy moving away so can't take with him.

 

I can also go to his house and see it working before I buy.

 

1. Is this build worth the asking price?

2. I'm using it for RTS (Anno 1800, 2205, PUBG)no streaming or rendering, would this build handle it?

 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Too much imo for a PC with a last gen i5, a cheap case, and a small AIO. That is even with factoring in the going price of 1080s these days. 

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12 minutes ago, Scruffmanmills said:

 

Why does he have an i5 7600K with a GTX 1080? I hope he at least has a 1440p or 4k display...

Just go for an R5 2600 + GTX 1050ti, save the rest until next generation GPUs are out, could add an SSD

motherboard may need a BIOS update, ask your retailer about it, or get an AMD boot kit.
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Jgbp29
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Jgbp29/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  (£164.98 @ Box Limited)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£62.43 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Phoenix Video Card  (£149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£36.88 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£50.02 @ Novatech)
Total: £650.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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7 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Why does he have an i5 7600K with a GTX 1080? I hope he at least has a 1440p or 4k display...

Just go for an R5 2600 + GTX 1050ti, save the rest until next generation GPUs are out, could add an SSD

motherboard may need a BIOS update, ask your retailer about it, or get an AMD boot kit.
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Jgbp29
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Jgbp29/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  (£164.98 @ Box Limited)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£62.43 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Phoenix Video Card  (£149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£36.88 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£50.02 @ Novatech)
Total: £650.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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or grab an second hand R9 290x or 390/x.if that is avavible. they go for okay prices these days

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Just now, GoldenLag said:

or grab an second hand R9 290x or 390/x.if that is avavible. they go for okay prices these days

This.

 

A 290X or 390 smokes the 1050 TI.

New Build (The Compromise): CPU - i7 9700K @ 5.1Ghz Mobo - ASRock Z390 Taichi | RAM - 16GB G.SKILL TridentZ RGB 3200CL14 @ 3466 14-14-14-30 1T | GPU - ASUS Strix GTX 1080 TI | Cooler - Corsair h100i Pro | SSDs - 500 GB 960 EVO + 500 GB 850 EVO + 1TB MX300 | Case - Coolermaster H500 | PSUEVGA 850 P2 | Monitor - LG 32GK850G-B 144hz 1440p | OSWindows 10 Pro. 

Peripherals - Corsair K70 Lux RGB | Corsair Scimitar RGB | Audio-technica ATH M50X + Antlion Modmic 5 |

CPU/GPU history: Athlon 6000+/HD4850 > i7 2600k/GTX 580, R9 390, R9 Fury > i7 7700K/R9 Fury, 1080TI > Ryzen 1700/1080TI > i7 9700K/1080TI.

Other tech: Surface Pro 4 (i5/128GB), Lenovo Ideapad Y510P w/ Kali, OnePlus 6T (8G/128G), PS4 Slim.

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Just now, Phentos said:

This.

 

A 290X or 390 smokes the 1050 TI.

roughly the same as a 1060 6 GB. they run a bit hot though, so keep that in mind. im not getting one as im waiting for future GPUs due to their newer feutures, but since this is a new build you might aswell since its pretty much the same price

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I'm planning in running a 1440p 144hz monitor.

 

My budget is £1200, can anyone suggest a build that is better value, or am I going overkill on a PC I don't really need?

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5 minutes ago, Scruffmanmills said:

I'm planning in running a 1440p 144hz monitor.

 

My budget is £1200, can anyone suggest a build that is better value, or am I going overkill on a PC I don't really need?

 

11 minutes ago, Prqnk3d said:

not a good deal, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/WhkDcY out performs it and is all new parts.

@Prqnk3d has allready proposed a better deal. 

 

do you have the monitor allready or does that have to be a part of the build?

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12 minutes ago, Prqnk3d said:

not a good deal, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/WhkDcY out performs it and is all new parts.

The Fatal1ty has the same VRM as the cheaper Pro 4 boards

 

5 minutes ago, Scruffmanmills said:

I'm planning in running a 1440p 144hz monitor.

 

My budget is £1200, can anyone suggest a build that is better value, or am I going overkill on a PC I don't really need?

R5 2600 with a GTX 1070/ti should be fine the ti is as fast as the 1080 after a 5 minute overclock, saves 100 GBP

Same as before, could add an SSD, maybe an X470 motherboard for StoreMI, would need an ATX case for that though

Part picker is broken, there's only one X470 board on it. go for the ASrock Killer or Gigabyte Gaming Ultra if you go for X470

You'd want a 240GB SSD minimum if you go that route.

 

and go for an IPS 1440p 144hz display if you don't own one already. Doesn't matter if it's free-sync.
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/wjH3ZR
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/wjH3ZR/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  (£164.98 @ Box Limited)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£62.43 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  (£384.67 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£36.88 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£50.02 @ Novatech)
Total: £884.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-26 10:12 BST+0100

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

The Fatal1ty has the same VRM as the cheaper Pro 4 boards

 

R5 2600 with a GTX 1070/ti should be fine the ti is as fast as the 1080 after a 5 minute overclock, saves 100 GBP

Same as before, could add an SSD, maybe an X470 motherboard for StoreMI, would need an ATX case for that though

Part picker is broken, there's only one X470 board on it. go for the ASrock Killer or Gigabyte Gaming Ultra if you go for X470

You'd want a 240GB SSD minimum if you go that route.

 

and go for an IPS 1440p 144hz display if you don't own one already. Doesn't matter if it's free-sync.
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/wjH3ZR
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/wjH3ZR/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  (£164.98 @ Box Limited)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£62.43 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  (£384.67 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£36.88 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£50.02 @ Novatech)
Total: £884.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Can't find tht GTX 1070ti for that price, only £470. What if I bought the GTX 1080 11Gb of that guy for £450/500 would that be better? I like the micro ATX case, but why would i need a full ATX again?

 

So spending £1000 on a AMD build would better suit my needs and save me £200?

 

That mATX has no M.2 Slot on it. Would small form factor be ok because I'm only planning on having 1 GPU?

 

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31 minutes ago, Scruffmanmills said:

I'm planning in running a 1440p 144hz monitor.

 

My budget is £1200, can anyone suggest a build that is better value, or am I going overkill on a PC I don't really need?

here's your best bet:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£242.62 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B360M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£69.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Team - T-Force Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£62.54 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£46.95 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Super JetStream Video Card  (£495.46 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C with Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£65.47 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£58.67 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1191.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-26 10:39 BST+0100

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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7 minutes ago, Scruffmanmills said:

That mATX has no M.2 Slot on it

The M.2 slot is right under the CPU socket on the Pro 4 M, you can spot it from the 2 screw mounts.


Either way on the GPU, there should be 1070tis for 450GBP, price to shoot for anyways.

 

If you changed to an X470 motherboard you'd need an ATX case as they only come in ATX sizes on the good motherboards. Possibly worth it to get StoreMI, which is some advanced software to speed up your hard drive basically.

As for Ryzen vs an i5, I'd rather have 6 cores 12 threads vs 4c/6cs at the same price. And it's probably saving money vs the i7 8700/K but that's just me.
 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813145060&cm_re=Gigabyte_Ultra_X470-_-13-145-060-_-Product

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157833&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Motherboards+-+AMD-_-N82E16813157833&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8YXXBRDXARIsAMzsQuWQtu4deVk2goa3jyeE86Wuq-Z8bi_bsYpcmHvLGIUsLQToj3fcMiAaAhI6EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
 

 

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

here's your best bet:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£242.62 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B360M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£69.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Team - T-Force Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£62.54 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£46.95 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Super JetStream Video Card  (£495.46 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C with Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£65.47 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£58.67 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1191.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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@Streetguru I'm starting get confused and back to the AMD vs Intel battle lol. Plus that build is nearly the same as the one the guy is offering.

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2 minutes ago, Scruffmanmills said:

@Streetguru I'm starting get confused and back to the AMD vs Intel battle lol. Plus that build is nearly the same as the one the guy is offering.

coffeelake i5s and i7s still perform better in games today despite the lower core count, so for gaming only get a coffeelake CPU. 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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5 minutes ago, Scruffmanmills said:

@Streetguru I'm starting get confused and back to the AMD vs Intel battle lol. Plus that build is nearly the same as the one the guy is offering.

Tons of benchmarks here


Coffee Lake is about 15fps ahead on average depending on it's OC, but Ryzen is still going to be over 100fps on average and be cheaper for the same core/thread count, and has a soldered IHS for better cooling, and Store MI is neat.

The i7 8700/R5 2600 is way better than the i5 7600K overall

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Tons of benchmarks here


Coffee Lake is about 15fps ahead on average depending on it's OC, but Ryzen is still going to be over 100fps on average and be cheaper for the same core/thread count, and has a soldered IHS for better cooling, and Store MI is neat.

The i7 8700/R5 2600 is way better than the i5 7600K overall

Ultimately I would love to build a £1200 rig, but looking at the Ryzens builds and for all I going to be able to play it maybe 4hrs a night 6hrs at the weekend maybe rzyen is the better way to go.

 

Here's my use I'd want:

 

Games: (Settings High to Ultra) Diablo 3, Heroes of Storm, Anno 2205, Anno 1800, PUBG, 

 

Non Gaming: Internet, Spotify, Store Media, General Work.

 

Setup: 1080p 60hz Secondary Screen, 1440p 144Hz IPS, 

 

Could I get a Intel/Rzyen below £1000 that would handle those parameters?

 

@Herman Mcpootis @GoldenLag

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1 minute ago, Scruffmanmills said:

 

 

Could I get a Intel/Rzyen below £1000 that would handle those parameters?

 

@Herman Mcpootis @GoldenLag

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  (£143.99 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B360M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£69.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£139.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£62.54 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£46.95 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Video Card  (£434.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G Mini (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£33.89 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£58.67 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £991.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-26 11:19 BST+0100

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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28 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  (£143.99 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B360M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£69.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£139.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£62.54 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£46.95 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Video Card  (£434.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G Mini (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£33.89 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£58.67 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £991.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-26 11:19 BST+0100

Dont have time right now, but its the same except you get the R5 2600 and a Asrock AB-350 ATX board. Also a kit of ddr4 3000 mhz

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7 hours ago, Scruffmanmills said:

 

I already posted a build for that. Just needs an SSD, and possibly a BIOS update, unless you buy an X470 board, and then an ATX case like a Masterbox 5 Black
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/wjH3ZR
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/wjH3ZR/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  (£164.98 @ Box Limited)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£62.43 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  (£384.67 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£36.88 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£50.02 @ Novatech)
Total: £884.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-26 10:12 BST+0100

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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