Intel 9th Gen Cannon Lake + Intel X399

[Carclis]

Let me guess... Socket 1151 and no backwards compatibility again?

[NMS]

Intel, why you do this...

You got RIPPED in X399, just go back to Z399.

[Bananasplit_00]

Oh wow that's pretty shitty of Intel tbh. You buy an expensive af Z370 board and literally all other 300 series chipsets except the expensive one gets the next gen of CPUs. Wonder what bullshit excuse they will have this time

[GoldenLag]

Im just confused. HOW DID THEY MAKE IT MORE CONFUSING!?!?

[Maticks]

Now I'm waiting for the photos of and pins falling out when someone clamps an amd processor into an Intel x399 board and says I'm getting error 00. Oh and there is smoke

[GOTSpectrum]

Dont Intel usually skip a number? x58>x79>x99>x299

 

Which would mean x499 should be next right? 

[Helly]

AMD should not get the blame for the confusion here. It's intel who chooses to go with the same name as AMD. It was pretty easy to remember, AMD = uneven, intel = even. Now its just one big mess and only intel is to blame for this.

[porina]

Will be interesting to see if there is forward/backward compatibility of X399-X299. This is new territory in the HEDT space. X99 I felt was around for far too long.

 

The Z370 thing would suck, although let's face it if you paired it with an 8700k, it is going to do you well for a long time. 

[Phentos]

57 minutes ago, Helly said:

AMD should not get the blame for the confusion here. It's intel who chooses to go with the same name as AMD. It was pretty easy to remember, AMD = uneven, intel = even. Now its just one big mess and only intel is to blame for this.

This. 

 

The alternating naming scheme would have made a lot of sense. But nooo.

[GoldenLag]

1 hour ago, Phentos said:

This. 

 

The alternating naming scheme would have made a lot of sense. But nooo.

Its like they cant even get even.......

[Rauten]

2 hours ago, Helly said:

AMD should not get the blame for the confusion here. It's intel who chooses to go with the same name as AMD. It was pretty easy to remember, AMD = uneven, intel = even. Now its just one big mess and only intel is to blame for this.

 

1 hour ago, Phentos said:

This. 

 

The alternating naming scheme would have made a lot of sense. But nooo.

Would it, really? X470 is already a thing, and we know there are going to be Zen+ Threadripper CPUs; 1+1 = X499 for Zen+ TR.

Also, let's be honest, AMD chose their chipset naming for Zen precisely to more or less match Intel's, regardless of how confusing it might be. I mean, how many chipsets do we have right now starting their number with a 3? H310, A320, B350, B360, H360, X370, Z370, X399? Unless you're really into this stuff, if you're a regular customer, you are already confused as all hell.
And this is when AMD announce no new TR chipset just to make me look like an ass.

[Phentos]

9 minutes ago, Rauten said:

Would it, really? X470 is already a thing, and we know there are going to be Zen+ Threadripper CPUs; 1+1 = X499 for Zen+ TR.

Also, let's be honest, AMD chose their chipset naming for Zen precisely to more or less match Intel's, regardless of how confusing it might be. I mean, how many chipsets do we have right now starting their number with a 3? H310, A320, B350, B360, H360, X370, Z370, X399? Unless you're really into this stuff, if you're a regular customer, you are already confused as all hell.
And this is when AMD announce no new TR chipset just to make me look like an ass.

Yea the chipset naming war is confusing as hell.

 

I keep forgetting about B360 being an Intel chipset for one thing. 

[79wjd]

11 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

I don't either, but I would be pissed off if my board only supports 1 gen of cpus.

It only actually affects a very small minority -- a small minority who would likely get a new board anyway -- as the majority of people upgrade very infrequently.

5 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

Oh wow that's pretty shitty of Intel tbh. You buy an expensive af Z370 board and literally all other 300 series chipsets except the expensive one gets the next gen of CPUs. Wonder what bullshit excuse they will have this time

Either they're being shitty, or far more likely, they had to rush z370 to get main stream six core CPUs before Canon lake was finalized and thus they couldn't design z370 to also support the at the time still unknown Cannon Lake.

[NumLock21]

2 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

It only actually affects a very small minority -- a small minority who would likely get a new board anyway -- as the majority of people upgrade very infrequently.

Either they're being shitty, or far more likely, they had to rush z370 to get main stream six core CPUs before Canon lake was finalized and thus they couldn't design z370 to also support the at the time still unknown Cannon Lake.

Z370 was rushed because they got nothing against AMD Ryzen. It was released on Q4 2017. Rest of the 300 series Q2 2018.

[Quadriplegic]

6 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

Oh wow that's pretty shitty of Intel tbh. You buy an expensive af Z370 board and literally all other 300 series chipsets except the expensive one gets the next gen of CPUs. Wonder what bullshit excuse they will have this time

But according to the PDF presented, 370 is considered as a 200 series chipset, isn't that right?

[Tieox]

This is quite interesting, making plans for my next build going into 2019, CannonLake could presumably lower Kaby Lake prices? especially on the i7's? 

[jagdtigger]

1 hour ago, VegetableStu said:

-1. a compaq system before they were eaten by HP

0. there was that AMD system I can't remember for the life of me

1. something in a HP pavillion laptop

2. i7 870

3. ahh crap that MBP i forgot which was it

4. i7 6800K

 

thought I go off topic for a bit, LOL

1 some old celeron(i still have the cpu but IDK why )

2 Athlon 64 2600+

3 2500k

4 4670k

[cj09beira]

39 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

It only actually affects a very small minority -- a small minority who would likely get a new board anyway -- as the majority of people upgrade very infrequently.

Either they're being shitty, or far more likely, they had to rush z370 to get main stream six core CPUs before Canon lake was finalized and thus they couldn't design z370 to also support the at the time still unknown Cannon Lake.

even if they do it doesn't mean its not useful, for example if am4 was available when i first bought my pc i would still not be able to afford a 1600 and a good gpu so i would go 4 core, 3-4 years latter going up to the 6-8core cpus would be a great upgrade as they would either be a cheap used market buy or buy a newer cpu but i wouldn't need to upgrade the whole pc (so it would still be worth it even if the cpu i would buy is a gen older (than the current ones) buy that time)

[Bananasplit_00]

48 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

 

Either they're being shitty, or far more likely, they had to rush z370 to get main stream six core CPUs before Canon lake was finalized and thus they couldn't design z370 to also support the at the time still unknown Cannon Lake.

Not that I know how you really design a chipset but i would really think that a BIOS update should do it really

[cj09beira]

1 minute ago, jagdtigger said:

1 some old celeron(i still have the cpu but IDK why )

2 Athlon 64 2600+

3 2500k

4 4670k

lets derail this topic  

1 pentium III

2 pentium 4 (3ghz->3.2ghz)

3 3570k (first pc i bought for myself)

4 4690k (new country new pc)

5 2700x(soon tm)(crypto bling)

[jagdtigger]

11 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

lets derail this topic  

A little bit off never hurts IMO...

[Jon Jon]

I would like to see more PCI-E lanes direct from the CPU and 8C/16T on the non-HEDT platform from Intel.

That would be pretty rad.

[AnonymousGuy]

There is no CNL HEDT so that's probably a typo.  

[App4that]

I have a Z370 board and could care less. I'd be pissed if I was forced to upgrade my CPU in less than 3 years. 

[ScratchCat]

6 hours ago, cj09beira said:

lets derail this topic

Spoiler

 

 

7 hours ago, Kierax said:

This is quite interesting, making plans for my next build going into 2019, CannonLake could presumably lower Kaby Lake prices? especially on the i7's? 

Go for the Coffee Lake i7s, they should receive price cuts also while being noticeably more powerful. Additionally wait for things to settle down first, at least until the first rumors indicate that the platform will not be dead after a single generation. AMD sent Intel reeling after sitting around meaning Z270 never had an upgrade despite being a mediocre refresh while Z370 will be stranded due to "compatibility issues" with Cannon Lake.