What to think about when picking parts for a NAS

[CyberFern0]

This one will be for file management and file backup; it's just for extra space.

[Streetguru]

10 minutes ago, CyberFern0 said:

This one will be for file management and file backup; it's just for extra space.

Budget?

Level 1 techs has a ton of info on the subject

Just an external hard drive is probably fine for most people unless you want more protection or features.
 

 

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

How much performance do you need? 10GBE? 40gbe? 100gbe? FC?

 

What OS?

 

How much do you care about reliability?

 

 

Budget?

 

Think about power, power bill can get expensive fast.

[jde3]

On the Thecus W2810 Pro, I don't understand why you'd want SMB Multi channel on a device of that size. And trunking/etherchannel isn't new. (tho that is at the network level)

 

Seems like a really pointless device. Very Microsoft tho to make a product and try to find a use for it, instead of starting with a problem people have and making a solution for it. (webtv, ar, etc)

[CyberFern0]

11 hours ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

How much performance do you need? 10GBE? 40gbe? 100gbe? FC?

 

What OS?

 

How much do you care about reliability?

 

 

Budget?

 

Think about power, power bill can get expensive fast.

I’m thinking about 15 TBs.

[CyberFern0]

11 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Budget?

Level 1 techs has a ton of info on the subject

Just an external hard drive is probably fine for most people unless you want more protection or features.
 

 

 

I’d put around 1000 max into it.

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 hour ago, CyberFern0 said:

I’m thinking about 15 TBs.

gonna answer the other questions?

 

Id probably just go g5400, 4 or 8gb of ram, unraid.

[CyberFern0]

1 hour ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

gonna answer the other questions?

 

Id probably just go g5400, 4 or 8gb of ram, unraid.

I don’t care much about performance as long as I can access my files whenever I want. However, I do care about reliability. My budget is at most $1000 because it’s only a NAS.

[Electronics Wizardy]

14 minutes ago, CyberFern0 said:

I don’t care much about performance as long as I can access my files whenever I want. However, I do care about reliability. My budget is at most $1000 because it’s only a NAS.

does that 1000 include drives?

 

Id probably get this personally.

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sc6BcY
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sc6BcY/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Pentium Gold G5400 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($64.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($77.39 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - IronWolf 8TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($224.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - IronWolf 8TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($224.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - IronWolf 8TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($224.95 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master - HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($50.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $988.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-26 11:46 EDT-0400

 

[Streetguru]

2 hours ago, CyberFern0 said:

I don’t care much about performance as long as I can access my files whenever I want. However, I do care about reliability. My budget is at most $1000 because it’s only a NAS.

Here's an old build for one  for some ideas

Could always go for an R7 chip + ECC memory, but you'd have to really look into that
 

 

[CyberFern0]

2 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Here's an old build for one  for some ideas

Could always go for an R7 chip + ECC memory, but you'd have to really look into that
 

 

It has 64GB but that’s not necessary, right?

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, CyberFern0 said:

It has 64GB but that’s not necessary, right?

Naw you don't really need 1GB per 1TB with ZFS, 16 or 32GB should be more than enough.

[CyberFern0]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Naw you don't really need 1GB per 1TB with ZFS, 16 or 32GB should be more than enough.

I’m not doing anything more than storing files. I would only put them in and take them out when needed. Isn’t 16 overkill for that?

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, CyberFern0 said:

I’m not doing anything more than storing files. I would only put them in and take them out when needed. Isn’t 16 overkill for that?

ZFS's features/security uses RAM to do it's magic.

What do you mean take them out? Not needed at all unless a drive dies.

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, CyberFern0 said:

I’m not doing anything more than storing files. I would only put them in and take them out when needed. Isn’t 16 overkill for that?

 

[CyberFern0]

35 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

ZFS's features/security uses RAM to do it's magic.

What do you mean take them out? Not needed at all unless a drive dies.

By taking them out, I mean accessing them as one would access a music file or work file. What is ZFS. Excuse me if it’s a “no duh” question.

[Streetguru]

31 minutes ago, CyberFern0 said:

By taking them out, I mean accessing them as one would access a music file or work file. What is ZFS. Excuse me if it’s a “no duh” question.

ZFS is the file system usually used in FreeNAS for better reliability of your data

You don't need to physically take out the drives you just access them over the network?
 

 

[CyberFern0]

22 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

ZFS is the file system usually used in FreeNAS for better reliability of your data

You don't need to physically take out the drives you just access them over the network?
 

 

Yes 

[CyberFern0]

Just now, CyberFern0 said:

Yes 

How does Raid have anything to do with this?

[Streetguru]

7 minutes ago, CyberFern0 said:

How does Raid have anything to do with this?

RAID is what a NAS typically uses to keep your data safe and backed up.

 

ZFS is just the next thing, with plenty of improved features.

[Streetguru]

12 minutes ago, CyberFern0 said:

How does Raid have anything to do with this?

For your other thread don't remember if you're in the US but the 1950X is $720 on amazon today
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Threadripper-32-thread-Processor-YD195XA8AEWOF/dp/B074CBH3R4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1524781054&sr=8-1&keywords=1950X

[CyberFern0]

12 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

For your other thread don't remember if you're in the US but the 1950X is $720 on amazon today
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Threadripper-32-thread-Processor-YD195XA8AEWOF/dp/B074CBH3R4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1524781054&sr=8-1&keywords=1950X

I know lol.

[CyberFern0]

17 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

RAID is what a NAS typically uses to keep your data safe and backed up.

 

ZFS is just the next thing, with plenty of improved features.

So I need a powerful CPU for ZFS?

 

Jezz I was thinking that I could get by with a Pentium G4500.

[Streetguru]

8 minutes ago, CyberFern0 said:

So I need a powerful CPU for ZFS?

 

Jezz I was thinking that I could get by with a Pentium G4500.

Not really no, you could just use a basic CPU if it's just a NAS, like an R3 2200G, just grab a board with plenty of sata.
 

 

 

[CyberFern0]

46 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Not really no, you could just use a basic CPU if it's just a NAS, like an R3 2200G, just grab a board with plenty of sata.
 

 

 

Thanks!