bottleneck

[keatond27]

i am new to pcs so im not sure if im bottlenecking my cpu and gpu. i have a ryzen 5 1600 at stock speeds and a gtx 770 at sock as well. the problem is my motherboard only has 2 dimm slits so i wanted 16 gigs of ram. but i didnt have the money so i went with one stick of 8 and upgrade to 16 when i get the money. is the 8 gigs bottlenecking my performance?

Thanks!

[TechyBen]

What games and Apps?

[Princess Luna]

No it's just running all at stock, the GTX 770 is a bit outdated... the Ryzen 5 1600 needs to be overclocked to extract the best out of it, and your memory what frequency is at? you should probably have it at higher than 2666mhz to avoid Infinity Fabric issues.

[WhyAlwaysMe]

In gaming, the 770 would almost certainly be the bottleneck.

[hconverse02]

No there is no bottleneck.  Many people get confused with the word bottleneck and just think it means underperform.  Your gpu power is just insufficient to make your gaming experience better, so you don't need more ram, you need a more powerful gpu.  Save your money and get a 1050 ti

[keatond27]

1 minute ago, hconverse02 said:

No there is no bottleneck.  Many people get confused with the word bottleneck and just think it means underperform.  Your gpu power is just insufficient to make your gaming experience better, so you don't need more ram, you need a more powerful gpu.  Save your money and get a 1050 ti

i am eventuallt gonna get a better graphics card but im waiting untill the prices go down 

[keatond27]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

No it's just running all at stock, the GTX 770 is a bit outdated... the Ryzen 5 1600 needs to be overclocked to extract the best out of it, and your memory what frequency is at? you should probably have it at higher than 2666mhz to avoid Infinity Fabric issues.

i have 2666. whats infinity fabric issues.

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

6 minutes ago, hconverse02 said:

No there is no bottleneck.  Many people get confused with the word bottleneck and just think it means underperform.  Your gpu power is just insufficient to make your gaming experience better, so you don't need more ram, you need a more powerful gpu.  Save your money and get a 1050 ti

bottleneck simply means that one device doesnt have enough processing power to power the other device thus holding the other device back...

 

ppl also tihnk its onl when a cpu hits 100% but thats not true either, a cpu can bottleneck a gpu even with 10% cpu usage due to too little singlethread performance or such

[hconverse02]

4 minutes ago, Wikiforce said:

1050 ti is hardly any better than 770

I'm dumb

4 minutes ago, keatond27 said:

i am eventuallt gonna get a better graphics card but im waiting untill the prices go down 

Still no use in getting more ram, just overclock in in the bios to 2933 mhz and that should help performance some

[wirs]

11 minutes ago, hconverse02 said:

I'm dumb

Still no use in getting more ram, just overclock in in the bios to 2933 mhz and that should help performance some

Ram speeds have next to no effect in gaming performance in most games...

[TechyBen]

3 hours ago, wirs said:

Ram speeds have next to no effect in gaming performance in most games...

Is that true for Ryzen too?

[wirs]

15 minutes ago, TechyBen said:

Is that true for Ryzen too?

It's true for every cpu there is as it's the software itself that needs to make use of the speeds. 

 

 

[TechyBen]

6 hours ago, wirs said:

It's true for every cpu there is as it's the software itself that needs to make use of the speeds. 

 

 

I meant including the infinity fabric. That changes the internal cache speeds too (as matched to DRAM speeds). AFAIK it gives a small boost in performance (for apps/cycles/math still in CPU cache) for faster ram.

[wirs]

9 hours ago, TechyBen said:

I meant including the infinity fabric. That changes the internal cache speeds too (as matched to DRAM speeds). AFAIK it gives a small boost in performance (for apps/cycles/math still in CPU cache) for faster ram.

That boost doesn't even amount to 2fps so it's safe to say that you gain absolutely nothing

[TechyBen]

User did not mention if they were gaming or doing productivity.

[hconverse02]

57 minutes ago, wirs said:

That boost doesn't even amount to 2fps so it's safe to say that you gain absolutely nothing

 

21 hours ago, wirs said:

Ram speeds have next to no effect in gaming performance in most games...

Yeah no.  Every single ryzen 1.0 benchmark incorporated faster ram.  3200mhz ram shows close to or, in come cases, more than a 10% increase in GAMES and WORKLOAD over 2133/2400mhz ram.