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Amazon receives patent to track & identify Cryptocurrency users

WMGroomAK

Amazon appears to be enjoying a news week this week between the deals with Best Buy and having over 100 Million Prime subscribers and now they have received approval on a patent filed back in 2014 that is designed to correlate cryptocurrency transactions data with shipping addresses and IP addresses in order to develop a system to identify users.  The purpose of this correlation/tracking would be to create a subscription service for users like the IRS or law enforcement to use in order to identify the cryptocurrency owner.  With the increasing amount of activity in the cryptocurrency field, I don't see Amazon sitting on a patent like this, especially if they can see a profit from either developing the system to use as  a part of their payment methods or licensing it to a third party...  Now though with the big public outcry on privacy, this could be a bit of a sticking point for some people, especially with the data tracking and collection.

 

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/d35eax/amazon-bitcoin-patent-data-stream-identify-cryptocurrency-for-law-enforcement-government

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Amazon, the online retail and technology giant owned by billionaire Jeff Bezos, won a patent in the US for a subscription feed that the company claims could “identify [Bitcoin] transaction participants” for governments and law enforcement.

 

The patent, which was filed in 2014 but approved on Tuesday, comes at a time when regulators’ desire to track and police cryptocurrency is running up against the technology’s core promises of pseudonymity for users. Bitcoin users, for example, are represented in the virtual currencies ledger by strings of text and numbers generated by a cryptographic algorithm. Taxation for Bitcoin thus relies on self-reporting. Amazon’s system, if it comes into being, could allow government subscribers to “correlate tax transaction data” with Bitcoin data in order to identify people, the patent filing says.

 

The patented system is described as a “streaming data marketplace” where various entities provide information into the stream to increase its identifying power, and customers subscribe to the feed for insights.

 

For example, the filing imagines a stream of transactions involving Bitcoin or another cryptocurrency—not very valuable on its own in terms of identifying people. But retailers in the stream can “combine the shipping address with the bitcoin transaction data” and publish the combined data to the stream; next, telecommunications companies “downstream” from the retailers may “correlate the IP (Internet Protocol) addresses of the transactions to countries of origin;” and further downstream, a government subscriber would “correlate tax transaction data.” With all of this data combined, stream subscribers may be able to identify Bitcoin users.

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“For example, a law enforcement agency may be a customer and may desire to receive global bitcoin transactions, correlated by country, with ISP data to determine source IP addresses and shipping addresses that correlate to bitcoin addresses,” the Amazon patent filing states. “The streaming data marketplace may price this desired data out per GB (gigabyte), for example, and the agency can start running analytics on the desired data using the analysis module.”

US Patent Office filing: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=1&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&S1=9,947,033.PN.&OS=pn/9,947,033&RS=PN/9,947,033

 

EDIT: One clarification that I think should be made after reading the patent in a little bit of detail is that the patent appears to be mainly for a way to combine multiple data sources and streams to create a more comprehensive data set for analytics and selling that as a service... Crypto is mentioned first in the following quote from the Patent Details:

 

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Streaming analytics technologies hold the promise of making vast volumes of data available in a low latency fashion. However, while prior technologies may be able to provide data in a low latency fashion, the raw data may have low value (or have less valuable than the data could have) until the raw data is enhanced by correlating the raw data with additional data, such as by matching records using common values. In some examples, the useful additional data to correlate with the data stream may not exist in one place but rather may be held by many entities or owners. As the data from each of these entities is correlated and combined with the raw data, the data stream may become more valuable. One example is a data stream that publishes or includes global bitcoin transactions (or any crypto currency transaction). These transactions are completely visible to each participant in the network. The raw transaction data may have little meaning to a customer unless the customer has a way to correlate various elements of the stream with other useful data. For example, a group of electronic or internet retailers who accept bitcoin transactions may have a shipping address that may correlate with the bitcoin address. The electronic retailers may combine the shipping address with the bitcoin transaction data to create correlated data and republish the combined data as a combined data stream. A group of telecommunications providers may subscribe downstream to the combined data stream and be able to correlate the IP (Internet Protocol) addresses of the transactions to countries of origin. Government agencies may be able to subscribe downstream and correlate tax transaction data to help identify transaction participants.

 

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Haha! That's is awesome. It was bound to happen. Today's a long time for their patent. And no one saw this coming?

 

Maybe with this, along with the centralization of Bitcoin due to ant miners, will help to kill the masses trying to turn a quick profit from mining, and we can finally get our sweet sweet GPUs back.

 

 

Not excited to hear about AMD stuck diving further as people fear Bitcoin process, and NVIDIA going on a rant about how they don't really on miners for sustainment..

 

 

I do not see Amazon selling this patent. I think they may sell the service, but not the patent.

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So then crypto currencies will just adapt to avoid this. Peolple have already known bitcoin can be traced that’s why they use bitcoin cleaning services. So all Amazon has managed to do is make these services rich. While most are only accessible through tor so this has only caused more of a problem then fix it.

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It only works on some cryptocurrencies however.

this wouldn't be possible with some of the more obfuscated ones such as Monero.

 

 

I believe the patent specifically mentions Bitcoin as well.

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29 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

So then crypto currencies will just adapt to avoid this. Peolple have already known bitcoin can be traced that’s why they use bitcoin cleaning services. So all Amazon has managed to do is make these services rich. While most are only accessible through tor so this has only caused more of a problem then fix it.

In addition to the cleaning services is would be possible that future clients attempt to send coins to their own wallet to attempt to cause the transaction to look like a transaction to a seller who is not part of Amazon's network. This would require the low transaction fees of a Proof of Stake or Proof of Storage cryptocurrency - Tx fees on Proof of Work coins would make this unreasonable in most cases.

 

In regards to the IP tracing, Bitcoin already has support for sending transactions via Tor thus obfuscating the users IP.

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34 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

I believe the patent specifically mentions Bitcoin as well.

It mentions bitcoin transaction data as an example of a type of information that the service could correlate data for... Currently still reading through the Patent description and one paragraph that is sticking out is:

 

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The multi-streaming data service may collect the high throughput volumes of data generated by applications, infrastructure operations, and mobile devices, and make the data available for fast identification of exceptions, slow queries, page views, click-through paths, or resource utilization. The multi-streaming data service may enable applications which can continuously analyze data at any volume and throughput with low latency. These applications can perform actions on data in windows of time, such as customer behavior over the last five minutes. The multi-streaming data service may enable the capture and processing of the wealth of information flowing through social media to identify changing trends, evaluate social graph dynamics, and to provide analytics on sentiment and sharing behavior. The multi-­streaming data service may enable the collection and analysis of financial information minute by minute, at any scale, instead of having to wait until the end of the business day or later, which can enable a quick response to anything from a new trade to changes in value at risk. The multi-streaming data service and streaming data marketplace may enable developers to understand how game players are interacting with games and with each other, and dynamically deliver a more engaging experience. By capturing data such as purchase orders, click-streams, and social media trends, applications can dynamically adjust machine learning-based recommendation and ranking algorithms. Any number of other potential use cases may also be available and are considered to be within the scope of this disclosure.

It would seem reading into this a bit more that it may be for a use case beyond just tracking crypto transactions and tying it to buyers and sellers...

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The biggest weakness for Amazon's approach is that it relies on them legally getting the data to correlate in the first place. It will be interesting how the entities capable of supplying that info balance the potential gain they get from supplying that data, vs the potential loss in activity if they do. My gut feel is this will be difficult to exploit commercially. 

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So Bezos did you know Bitcoin isn't the only crypto, nor is it likely the one people will use to stay off radar, it is the one wallstreet is sucking dry and that's about it.

2 hours ago, WMGroomAK said:

with ISP data to determine source IP addresses and shipping addresses

Also this ^ is so easy to avoid that your service will not be effective (which is good for everyone else)

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One clarification that I think should be made after reading the patent in a little bit of detail (will probably add an edit) is that the patent appears to be mainly for a way to combine multiple data sources and streams to create a more comprehensive data set for analytics and selling that as a service... Crypto is mentioned first in the following quote from the Patent Details:

 

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Streaming analytics technologies hold the promise of making vast volumes of data available in a low latency fashion. However, while prior technologies may be able to provide data in a low latency fashion, the raw data may have low value (or have less valuable than the data could have) until the raw data is enhanced by correlating the raw data with additional data, such as by matching records using common values. In some examples, the useful additional data to correlate with the data stream may not exist in one place but rather may be held by many entities or owners. As the data from each of these entities is correlated and combined with the raw data, the data stream may become more valuable. One example is a data stream that publishes or includes global bitcoin transactions (or any crypto currency transaction). These transactions are completely visible to each participant in the network. The raw transaction data may have little meaning to a customer unless the customer has a way to correlate various elements of the stream with other useful data. For example, a group of electronic or internet retailers who accept bitcoin transactions may have a shipping address that may correlate with the bitcoin address. The electronic retailers may combine the shipping address with the bitcoin transaction data to create correlated data and republish the combined data as a combined data stream. A group of telecommunications providers may subscribe downstream to the combined data stream and be able to correlate the IP (Internet Protocol) addresses of the transactions to countries of origin. Government agencies may be able to subscribe downstream and correlate tax transaction data to help identify transaction participants.

 

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1 hour ago, ScratchCat said:

In addition to the cleaning services is would be possible that future clients attempt to send coins to their own wallet to attempt to cause the transaction to look like a transaction to a seller who is not part of Amazon's network. This would require the low transaction fees of a Proof of Stake or Proof of Storage cryptocurrency - Tx fees on Proof of Work coins would make this unreasonable in most cases.

 

In regards to the IP tracing, Bitcoin already has support for sending transactions via Tor thus obfuscating the users IP.

Yeah I don't really know what Amazon is trying to do. The uneducated buyers who cause the market to fluctuate a ton are the ones who would be hit with this so no loss really

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I recall a video from computerphile (or someone similar) a while back that was demonstrating a way to taint coin that is being used for paying ransoms so they can trace it even through mixers.  I wonder if they can't do something similar here, then when combined with the other tech they have make the whole transaction as unique as fingerprints.

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Can I say that I'm waiting for them to come up with this as a service and then use poorly secured AWS S3 buckets for servicing and storing the data they compile since I don't think I've gone more than two weeks this year without reading a story about one of those issues?

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3 hours ago, BuckGup said:

So then crypto currencies will just adapt to avoid this. Peolple have already known bitcoin can be traced that’s why they use bitcoin cleaning services. So all Amazon has managed to do is make these services rich. While most are only accessible through tor so this has only caused more of a problem then fix it.

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It will always be that way, always has always will. They are always one step ahead trying to game the system

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15 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

I learnt sumtin new

It will always be that way, always has always will. They are always one step ahead trying to game the system

That can be said about a lot of things. Cat and mouse game tom and jerry. Look at kids and schools. They are the greatest pentesters that are free. Students will always find away around stuff.

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20 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

That can be said about a lot of things. Cat and mouse game tom and jerry. Look at kids and schools. They are the greatest pentesters that are free. Students will always find away around stuff.

Thats business

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17 hours ago, Ryujin2003 said:

Haha! That's is awesome. It was bound to happen. Today's a long time for their patent. And no one saw this coming?

 

Maybe with this, along with the centralization of Bitcoin due to ant miners, will help to kill the masses trying to turn a quick profit from mining, and we can finally get our sweet sweet GPUs back.

 

 

Not excited to hear about AMD stuck diving further as people fear Bitcoin process, and NVIDIA going on a rant about how they don't really on miners for sustainment..

 

 

I do not see Amazon selling this patent. I think they may sell the service, but not the patent.

Hey! This is relevant again! :)

 

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