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I Will be listing all the reviews linked, or that I find. De8auers Review is a nice overclock look into it, 4.3 is the wall he hit under air/water.

 

Videocardz review round up: https://videocardz.com/75975/amd-ryzen-2000-pinnacle-ridge-review-roundup

 

De8auer:

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PCPer: https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Ryzen-7-2700X-and-Ryzen-5-2600X-Review-Zen-Matures

 

AnandTech: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12625/amd-second-generation-ryzen-7-2700x-2700-ryzen-5-2600x-2600

 

Gamers Nexus: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3287-amd-r7-2700-and-2700x-review-game-streaming-cpu-benchmarks-memory

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HardOCP: https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018/04/19/amd_2nd_gen_ryzen_2_2700x_zen_cpu_review

 

Overclock 3D: https://overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/amd_ryzen_5_2600x_and_ryzen_7_2700x_review/1

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The Tech Report: https://techreport.com/review/33531/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-and-ryzen-5-2600x-cpus-reviewed

 

Guru 3D: http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-review,1.html - https://techreport.com/review/33531/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-and-ryzen-5-2600x-cpus-reviewed

 

Tech PowerUp: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_2600X/

 

Tom's hardware: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-review,5571.html

 

Paul's hardware:

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Hardware Unboxed: https://www.techspot.com/review/1613-amd-ryzen-2700x-2600x/

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Be fun to see this once more get uploaded :P 

 

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8 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

Be fun to see this once more get uploaded :P 

 

This is what I will have for now, I will update more later.

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Just now, The Benjamins said:

This is what I will have for now, I will update more later.

Here is Hardware Unboxed review:

Also really good that I didn't have to do a mega thread

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Unfortunately, I can't watch it, but Level1Techs are doing a live stream:

 

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22 minutes ago, IAmAndre said:

What about the non-X variants? Are they coming later?

I think so, AMD does not put the non X parts out into the light because they are not the stars of the show.

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Their appears to be a shit storm in Anandtech comments on the review due to them having test showing the Ryzen chips beating Intel in gaming test, but as far as I can tell they are one of the few that has intel patched 100% for spectrum and meltdown. and x470 already has the AMD spectrum variant 2 patch in firmware.

 

So best gaming CPU with latest security patches is AMD.

 

Anandtech are looking into it.

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12625/amd-second-generation-ryzen-7-2700x-2700-ryzen-5-2600x-2600/17


 

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So I'm honestly really confused about something.

 

Nearly all the reviews I've seen put Ryzen 2 in between Ryzen 1 and Covfefe lake for gaming performance. Except for one. Anandtech's review shows Ryzen 2 ahead of every single other CPU lineup in gaming performance. It's ahead of even Covfefe Lake by at least 5-10%, in every single game they tested.

 

Now, normally I would hardly glance at it and attribute this to testing methodology, but this is Anandtech we're talking about. I've trusted their testing for years and they're my #1 choice for tech reviews, so I can't really take this lightly.

 

Ian seems to believe that this is because they tested with all the new meltdown and Spectre mitigations, and that they're impacting gaming performance for covfefe lake. However, some sites like Techspot claim they have tested them all with the latest mitigations. However, according to Tom's Hardware, who only tested Ryzen 2 with Spectre Variant 2 mitigations, whereas Covfefe Lake only had Spectre Variant 1 mitigations, the variant 2 ones were only released really recently, around a week ago. I'm honestly not sure if Techspot tested with Variant 2 mitigations or not.

 

This is honestly really confusing, and I don't want to make a proper decision about Ryzen 2 gaming performance until all this is figured out. But it looks like it's possible that, with the security patches, Ryzen 2 could overtake the gaming performance crown...

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So the TL;DR/TL;DW is 5-15% increase in games at 1080p with a 1080ti depending on game and how much memory OC fussing you were willing to do with both the Ryzen 1000 and 2000 series. The real interesting thing that came up is Anandtech's use of full SPECTRE/MELTDOWN patches on all systems which appears to have murdered in it's crib pretty much all of Intel's gaming performance advantage.

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16 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

So I'm honestly really confused about something.

 

Nearly all the reviews I've seen put Ryzen 2 in between Ryzen 1 and Covfefe lake for gaming performance. Except for one. Anandtech's review shows Ryzen 2 ahead of every single other CPU lineup in gaming performance. It's ahead of even Covfefe Lake by at least 5-10%, in every single game they tested.

 

Now, normally I would hardly glance at it and attribute this to testing methodology, but this is Anandtech we're talking about. I've trusted their testing for years and they're my #1 choice for tech reviews, so I can't really take this lightly.

 

Ian seems to believe that this is because they tested with all the new meltdown and Spectre mitigations, and that they're impacting gaming performance for covfefe lake. However, some sites like Techspot claim they have tested them all with the latest mitigations. However, according to Tom's Hardware, who only tested Ryzen 2 with Spectre Variant 2 mitigations, whereas Covfefe Lake only had Spectre Variant 1 mitigations, the variant 2 ones were only released really recently, around a week ago. I'm honestly not sure if Techspot tested with Variant 2 mitigations or not.

 

This is honestly really confusing, and I don't want to make a proper decision about Ryzen 2 gaming performance until all this is figured out. But it looks like it's possible that, with the security patches, Ryzen 2 could overtake the gaming performance crown...

Someone pointed out that Anandtechs gaming benchmarks for the 8700k is higher in the Ryzen review then the 8700k review. so really why is the Ryzen scores so good?

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18 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

So I'm honestly really confused about something.

 

Nearly all the reviews I've seen put Ryzen 2 in between Ryzen 1 and Covfefe lake for gaming performance. Except for one. Anandtech's review shows Ryzen 2 ahead of every single other CPU lineup in gaming performance. It's ahead of even Covfefe Lake by at least 5-10%, in every single game they tested.

 

Now, normally I would hardly glance at it and attribute this to testing methodology, but this is Anandtech we're talking about. I've trusted their testing for years and they're my #1 choice for tech reviews, so I can't really take this lightly.

 

Ian seems to believe that this is because they tested with all the new meltdown and Spectre mitigations, and that they're impacting gaming performance for covfefe lake. However, some sites like Techspot claim they have tested them all with the latest mitigations. However, according to Tom's Hardware, who only tested Ryzen 2 with Spectre Variant 2 mitigations, whereas Covfefe Lake only had Spectre Variant 1 mitigations, the variant 2 ones were only released really recently, around a week ago. I'm honestly not sure if Techspot tested with Variant 2 mitigations or not.

 

This is honestly really confusing, and I don't want to make a proper decision about Ryzen 2 gaming performance until all this is figured out. But it looks like it's possible that, with the security patches, Ryzen 2 could overtake the gaming performance crown...

Well they are re validating their data, so lets wait and see.

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4 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

Someone pointed out that Anandtechs gaming benchmarks for the 8700k is higher in the Ryzen review then the 8700k review. so really why is the Ryzen scores so good?

 

the 2600 is beating the the 8700k in games in Anandtech review by a HUGE margin, probably something went wrong, margin of error wouldn't even count for that much of a change.  We are talking about a 40% difference from other reviews.  Can't compare between reviews yeah but this doesn't exactly fit with anything in reality.

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5 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

Someone pointed out that Anandtechs gaming benchmarks for the 8700k is higher in the Ryzen review then the 8700k review. so really why is the Ryzen scores so good?

 

2 minutes ago, Razor01 said:

the 2600x is beating the the 8700k in games in Anandtech review, probably something went wrong, margin of error wouldn't even count for that much of a change.

Anandtech used a fully updated and patched Intel system for Meltdown and Spectre; but are also reviewing it all.

I wonder if the others also updated and patched their test benches. Will be interesting to see what Anand find testing with, and without the updates and patches.
 

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37 minutes ago, Valentyn said:

 

Anandtech used a fully updated and patched Intel system for Meltdown and Spectre; but are also reviewing it all.

I wonder if the others also updated and patched their test benches. Will be interesting to see what Anand find testing with, and without the updates and patches.
 

 

40% spread lol? that huge, I can see 10% and what not for those patches, but 40%, something else is going on.  Pretty much a 6 core 12 thread ryzen is kicking the ass out of 8700k.  2600 non X is killing it too, and that is clocked at 3.4 ghz, vs the 8700k's 3.7  ghz.  No way that could just happen because of the patches, we already know the patches don't really hurt gaming performance.

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40% spread lol? that huge, I can see 10% and what not for those patches, but 40%, something else is going on.  Pretty much a 6 core 12 thread ryzen is kicking the ass out of 8700k.  2600 non K is killing it too, and that is clocked at 3.4 ghz, vs the 8700k's 3.7  ghz.  No way that could just happen because of the patches, we already know the patches don't really hurt gaming performance.

Well for Haswell and Ivy the patches murder performance. We won't know until Anand finishes validating; or others other patch and update and redo their tests. Just gotta wait and see what's going on here.

One thing I noticed was Anand also ran their memory at the rated JEDEC speeds, 2933Mhz for Ryzen 2; and 2666Mhz for Coffeelake. Likely also plays a role yet again.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Valentyn said:

One thing I noticed was Anand also ran their memory at the rated JEDEC speeds, 2933Mhz for Ryzen 2; and 2666Mhz for Coffeelake. Likely also plays a role yet again.

Which is pretty much the absolutely best case scenario for pre-builts. Be interesting to re-run both at 2400 as well and see what pops out.

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30 minutes ago, Valentyn said:

Well for Haswell and Ivy the patches murder performance. We won't know until Anand finishes validating; or others other patch and update and redo their tests. Just gotta wait and see what's going on here.

One thing I noticed was Anand also ran their memory at the rated JEDEC speeds, 2933Mhz for Ryzen 2; and 2666Mhz for Coffeelake. Likely also plays a role yet again.

 

 

 

Good points, more than the patches memory speeds probably plays a bigger role

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36 minutes ago, Razor01 said:

 

40% spread lol? that huge, I can see 10% and what not for those patches, but 40%, something else is going on.  Pretty much a 6 core 12 thread ryzen is kicking the ass out of 8700k.  2600 non K is killing it too, and that is clocked at 3.4 ghz, vs the 8700k's 3.7  ghz.  No way that could just happen because of the patches, we already know the patches don't really hurt gaming performance.

Well it could be there are issues with the Intel patches that are making the performance worse then it should. We will just have to wait and see what they find when they revalidate their numbers.

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Gee gee.

Is that as a good thing or bad thing?

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