Windows 10 version 1803 held up because of BSOD

[Jito463]

39 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

@Jito463 Your title is incorrect and misleading. Please fix it.

 

Either "Version 1803" or "Build 17133" would be fine.

Better?  

 

I'm more surprised no one has called out my slightly clickbait-y title. 

[bcredeur97]

this does make me a little more unsure about updating as soon as it comes out

[laminutederire]

40 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

So did I: if it's not an opt-in update or a security update, if it's just incremental features 0% should be the only acceptable percent: we're paying customers, not fucking guinea pigs.

Actually they say that there is an acceptable percentage of cases where you'd have BSODs. Which in itself is okay as you need BSODs in case of hardware failure for instance. They also consider that you can occasionally run into a BSOD under normal use. Which is somewhat acceptable in a sense. My S8 has frozen to the point of having to soft reset it. Well it happens, and since it happened once in months, it's okay.

In this case, it meant that you would get multiple BSODs in a row for no real reason, which is concern. Hence the higher percentage of BSODs, and hence why they are not pushing it.

[mynameisjuan]

1 minute ago, laminutederire said:

Actually they say that there is an acceptable percentage of cases where you'd have BSODs. Which in itself is okay as you need BSODs in case of hardware failure for instance. They also consider that you can occasionally run into a BSOD under normal use. Which is somewhat acceptable in a sense. My S8 has frozen to the point of having to soft reset it. Well it happens, and since it happened once in months, it's okay.

In this case, it meant that you would get multiple BSODs in a row for no real reason, which is concern. Hence the higher percentage of BSODs, and hence why they are not pushing it.

At least someone understands the main purpose of BSOD rather than bitching about it. Its a mechanism to prevent something bad from going wrong or something just bugs out. 

[laminutederire]

2 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

At least someone understands the main purpose of BSOD rather than bitching about it. Its a mechanism to prevent something bad from going wrong or something just bugs out. 

Everyone overclocking a CPU should know about this indeed for instance.

You know your overclock is not stable even if it boots, when you get BSODs coming from anormal use. But people tend to forget about that.

That's also when you know your hard drive has an issue, or when your graphics card doesn't cool itself down correctly. Some people would prefer those to melt and be unusable rather than create BSODs, you're damn right about that unfortunately.

[AlTech]

1 hour ago, Misanthrope said:

we're paying customers, not fucking guinea pigs.

Most people on Windows 10 probably didn't pay for it.

 

Windows 10 is more akin to Free To Play games than a traditional software.

[Misanthrope]

Just now, AluminiumTech said:

Most people on Windows 10 probably didn't pay for it.

 

Windows 10 is more akin to Free To Play games than a traditional software.

I'm sure there's people who pirated Windows 7 and then got a "legitimate" version of 10 but no: Microsoft decided that people who already paid for 7 could have 10, often being pushed into 10 without their input at all.

 

But bottom line is that if you paid for 7 you are still a paying customer.

[Misanthrope]

19 minutes ago, laminutederire said:

Actually they say that there is an acceptable percentage of cases where you'd have BSODs. Which in itself is okay as you need BSODs in case of hardware failure for instance. They also consider that you can occasionally run into a BSOD under normal use. Which is somewhat acceptable in a sense. My S8 has frozen to the point of having to soft reset it. Well it happens, and since it happened once in months, it's okay.

In this case, it meant that you would get multiple BSODs in a row for no real reason, which is concern. Hence the higher percentage of BSODs, and hence why they are not pushing it.

So to clarify: if the update takes the OS from NOT having BSOD in any significantly relevant percentage (that is to say, taking into account things that are unpredictable like hardware issues, momentary and permanent alike) to HAVING significant BSOD occurrences that are not just the usual aforementioned cases, then it is unacceptable to push it as an automatic update which is why I made it a point since the get go: automatic updates are either bulletproof or outweigh the stability concern vs the risk due to security vulnerabilities an such.

 

So I hope this covers this pointless diversions from the main point that should be absolutely fucking crystal clear now: Don't break a stable OS with an automatic update that's not needed.

[Doobeedoo]

Well good, improve and polish the update. No rush needed so.