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First you upgrade the Intel TIM, then you try out Liquid Metal - the next logical step on the quest for the lowest temps is to completely eliminate the IHS.

 

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Plenty of enthusiasts have been running delidded cpus with no IHS for decades.

This is literally the exact same thing as people are already doing, putting the waterblock on the bare die, just more convenient.
Nothing new or revolutionary.

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Using a Heatkiller IV Pro with direct die on a 7700K I could boot and run CB at 5.5Ghz and get 5.3Ghz completely stable (24 hours Realbench, Aida64, OCCT) at about 1.475V.   The problem isn't temperature or voltage (1.75V lets go bois) it just becomes how high the silicon wall of frequency is.

 

The only positive to using the cooler in this video is you don't have to shave the corners of the socket on the motherboard.  The negative is you have to use an inferior waterblock as part of the whole package.

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23 minutes ago, ZcanKal said:

I see... yes... I certainly see... WHAT?!  Are we going back to pre-x64?!

Direct die cooling like the original Athlon or some Pentium III's. xD

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Just now, Blademaster91 said:

Direct die cooling like the original Athlon or some Pentium III's. xD

Yep, Even if I was born after that era, I've dealt with them.  Never again, those things are so fragile.

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40 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Plenty of enthusiasts have been running delidded cpus with no IHS for decades.

This is literally the exact same thing as people are already doing, putting the waterblock on the bare die, just more convenient.
Nothing new or revolutionary.

This provides an advantage in that you don't have to remove the retention mechanism.

it's time

 

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I thought on-die cooling has been a thing for a years, why is this such a big deal?

 

Or did I miss something?

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16 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I thought on-die cooling has been a thing for a years, why is this such a big deal?

 

Or did I miss something?

putting normal waterblocks directly on the die, yes. this is a cooler designed for just that, so its way less risky :)

 

also heads up to anyone that wants the absolutely AMAZING LOOKING V1D with the frame, you can get it in anodised yellow :x 

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1 minute ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

putting normal waterblocks directly on the die, yes. this is a cooler designed for just that, so its way less risky :)

All the safety doesn't protect against impatience and an effect I can only describe as "Leroy Jankism"

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1 minute ago, ZcanKal said:

All the safety doesn't protect against impatience and an effect I can only describe as "Leroy Jankism"

MY DELID JOB INTENSEFIES

 

no protection for the SMDs, questionable aplication, IHS moved around a lot before the block got on there... lots of scetch going on with my CPU cooling already :P 

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

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Egh, I've been heavily contemplating on whether to back the V1D or not. Frankly, IMO, its the nicest looking waterblock which makes me want it even more...

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What? As I said, there seriously is nothing here :) 

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it's not I mean it's kinda unique but to me the copper needed more mass and I checked the kickstarter and to me ouch. we could do a project on a metal fed 3d printer and place a joint order like massdrop and come out with something more solid I think. (why acrylic at all) I'd go 100% metal. and I really enjoy the wan show and am watching all the video's to catch up but today should have come with a warning (don't be drinking something and watch this) almost sprayed a coke all over my mechanical keyboard. B|

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2 minutes ago, rcorkum said:

it's not I mean it's kinda unique but to me the copper needed more mass and I checked the kickstarter and to me ouch. we could do a project on a metal fed 3d printer and place a joint order like massdrop and come out with something more solid I think. (why acrylic at all) I'd go 100% metal.

For something like this you'd need to use 3D Printed wax, then cast the block. Once cast you'd still need to CNC or manually mill out the surface for the IHS and threads for the fittings.  As far as I know pure copper filament 3D printers don't exist, there are some direct metal laser melting (DMLM) 3D printers that do metal, but then you need a powder, laser printers are prohibitively expensive, and you'll still need a CNC milling process after to get the tolerances correct.  Basically the current process by NudeCNC is about as cost effective as you can get, and I see nothing wrong with using acrylic in a block.

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2 hours ago, RollTime said:

This provides an advantage in that you don't have to remove the retention mechanism.

Yeah, that's what I said, it's just more convenient, it's nothing new.

It doesn't offer any better temps than what people already get by running bare die liquid cooling with liquid metal.

In fact I'm pretty sure you would get better temps if you did the above using a supremacy evo waterblock instead of the one in the video.

 

2 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I thought on-die cooling has been a thing for a years, why is this such a big deal?

 

Or did I miss something?

Either LTT is just very uninformed about what enthusiasts have been doing for the past decade, or they're trying to build excitement for the people who didn't know this has already been a thing for a long time.

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What are you doing?? Sniffing it!... Look at that spread! #takingwhatlinussayscompletelyoutoforderandcontext

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I've been looking at ways to push my system as far as I can take it.  This is a pretty cool vid for me because I'm running a 7700k on a z270 board totally stock right now. Which I think is running at 4.5 GHz.  I'm running cooling with a Corsair H60 AIO, so I should probably be less of a wuss and get overclocking finally.

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2 hours ago, Enderman said:

Yeah, that's what I said, it's just more convenient, it's nothing new.

It doesn't offer any better temps than what people already get by running bare die liquid cooling with liquid metal.

In fact I'm pretty sure you would get better temps if you did the above using a supremacy evo waterblock instead of the one in the video.

Ah, gotcha.

it's time

 

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1.500V CPU, how much more is this pulling out of the wall?

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EKWB has mounting hardware for their Supremacy blocks for using it with a delidded CPU - the Naked Ivy set for Ivy Bridge and Haswell CPUs, though you need to remove the retention setup from the mainboard. Does not support newer generations, though, and it doesn't appear EK has released a set for newer generations. But depending on tolerances, it might be easy-ish to create something similar. And as others have pointed out, direct-cooling a delidded CPU is not new. Wouldn't surprise me if there is custom mounting hardware for using AIOs with delidded CPUs.

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12 hours ago, brandishwar said:

EKWB has mounting hardware for their Supremacy blocks for using it with a delidded CPU - the Naked Ivy set for Ivy Bridge and Haswell CPUs, though you need to remove the retention setup from the mainboard. Does not support newer generations, though, and it doesn't appear EK has released a set for newer generations. But depending on tolerances, it might be easy-ish to create something similar. And as others have pointed out, direct-cooling a delidded CPU is not new. Wouldn't surprise me if there is custom mounting hardware for using AIOs with delidded CPUs.

One of the bigger problems with running a bare die setup is mounting pressure. Too much and you don't get proper contact and temps suffer, too much and you risk cracking the die.

 

That has always been the major downside of running a naked DIE, this seems to be a decent and safer alternative

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6 hours ago, AngryBeaver said:

One of the bigger problems with running a bare die setup is mounting pressure. Too much and you don't get proper contact and temps suffer, too much and you risk cracking the die.

 

That has always been the major downside of running a naked DIE, this seems to be a decent and safer alternative

Actually, that's pretty much the BIGGEST problem running the die bare. Which is why the mounting hardware from EKWB was intended to hold the block at a specific height, saving you from that risk.


Then there was the concern with the Pentium III and Athlon chips when Intel and AMD, respectively, migrated away from riser cards. Back when I built an Athlon XP system, mWave had a service where they'd install the CPU and cooler and verify it all works, then ship it already assembled. Saving you from risking cracking the CPU and its exposed die, which was still a risk even with the spacer pads on the PCB. Use too much pressure attaching the cooler and CRACK!

 

At least with LGA CPUs and even the PGA CPUs today, pins cover the entirety of the underside, which limits the risk of using too much pressure on a naked die. But you still need to be careful.

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