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3 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Oh great, like I needed even more reason to upgrade from my 780. Hopefully I can make it last another year at least...

Still better than my 380. That being said the only games I play take the 380 just to its limit of 1080p on ultra and can hit the 60fps target. 

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48 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Exploding memory inductors don't count as exploding? 

 

Nani?

Exploding inductors on reference cards, its still rather clickbait.  I still don't get why people use clickbait in the news section tbh.

41 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Fuck.

 

IIRC only Zotac 980 Ti Amp! use ref PCB while Amp! Omega and Amp! Extreme use custom PCB. 

I dunno about the Zotac cards but most nvidia reference based cards use better components.

Edit- Nvm, Zotac were cheapasses with with that card, looks the same as reference to me. I won't get anything but evga or gigabyte and sometimes MSI as at least they put in some better vrm's and stuff.

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1 minute ago, Blademaster91 said:

Exploding inductors on reference cards, its still rather clickbait.

That is literally the first line in my post. I don't agree with the clickbait analysis but trying to fight it won't change anything so there is no point. 

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15 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Oh great, like I needed even more reason to upgrade from my 780. Hopefully I can make it last another year at least...

If you don't plug it in, then you have nothing to worry about. It will last for a very long time.

So there you go, no problem! :)

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8 minutes ago, crystal6tak said:

Can confirm, my 980 Ti's R33 burnt up a month or so ago. EVGA replaced it with a 1070.

Good on them! 

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what a surprise, nvidia again having issues on their cards. But people will forget very very soon, forgive nvidia for cutting corners on their overprized cards, say they were "old" anyway (never seen people hanging to old cards? I have a friend who used an amd card for 6 years before it failed!) and move on to the next one while complaining how amd is trash and etc etc etc

 

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It's like the capacitor holocaust that killed so many motherboards.

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46 minutes ago, crystal6tak said:

Can confirm, my 980 Ti's R33 burnt up a month or so ago. EVGA replaced it with a 1070.

 

Damn, confirmation...

Good on EVGA for doing that!

 

It looks like it doesn't matter on the manufacturer, let be EVGA or PNY, as long as they are reference PCB designs, the R33's will fail.

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2 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

If you don't plug it in, then you have nothing to worry about. It will last for a very long time.

So there you go, no problem! :)

I am very tempted to make a "that's what she said" joke. I guess this counts.

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7 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

Damn, confirmation...

Good on EVGA for doing that!

 

It looks like it doesn't matter on the manufacturer, let be EVGA or PNY, as long as they are reference PCB designs, the R33's will fail.

Mine wasn't even a reference PCB. It was an FTW card. The unlucky thing was my card only has 2 R33 inductors, and one just so happen to burn up...

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13 minutes ago, crystal6tak said:

Mine wasn't even a reference PCB. It was an FTW card. The unlucky thing was my card only has 2 R33 inductors, and one just so happen to burn up...

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Oh damn.

Well sh!t ....

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Well at least it only affects the reference PCB ...

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30 minutes ago, crystal6tak said:

Mine wasn't even a reference PCB. It was an FTW card. The unlucky thing was my card only has 2 R33 inductors, and one just so happen to burn up...

 

At least you sort of know what failed . You can maybe replace it with good soldering skills . My dead 290x shows no signs of damage at all...

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How about my old EVGA GT 740 sc? Was one of our first discrete GPUs.

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Think the description of the problem should be changed form "reference PCB" to 'reference memory power design'

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I can confirm on the 780 ti reference... My brother had issues with his card. He gave it to me, and I found out it was under warranty, so I sent it back, and they have him a new one... Now he said there is memory errors again... So it might be his second SLI card... Meaning this issue is actually legitimate, and your card WILL DIE.

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5 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

Nvidia seems to have a tendency to cut corners to save cost, and they did it again. 

Amd does too, I recall watching a video from Buildzoid about the rx 480 that mentioned how they didn't have proper power measurement on board to cut costs.

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1 hour ago, Dionyz said:

Meaning this issue is actually legitimate, and your card WILL DIE.

This is true of all cards, the reason in this case just seems to  be isolated to a specific component and or circuit design (if the component isn't faulty). Its not uncommon to see inductors like this burning up over time especially when voltages are increased beyond baseline. The question then becomes whether the design was flawed, the component was faulty from the vendor, or was this an oversight of overclocked requirements. I am leaning towards option 2 or 3, and if its option 2 that could have a ripple effect like the old capacitor issues back in the day, if it is option 3 overall thats a not really horrid on nvidia's end, bad but not horrid.

 

However the first option is still in play (worst case for nvidia), though as someone who diagnoses failures in PCBs I tend to lean towards the part simply being of a faulty nature, usually design issues lead to instability (intermitent crashes etc) or DOA failures while things tend to burn up while beyond specification or due to a bad part. If it comes to light that they were burning up under normal operation voltages (and the parts are within spec) then clearly the designer should be fired because that is unacceptable, and morons like that need to go so I can take their jobs xD

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3 hours ago, crystal6tak said:

Can confirm, my 980 Ti's R33 burnt up a month or so ago. EVGA replaced it with a 1070.

They replaced my 980 Ti with a 1080...

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32 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Amd does too, I recall watching a video from Buildzoid about the rx 480 that mentioned how they didn't have proper power measurement on board to cut costs.

He does have other vids of some AMD cards with rather crap power delivery, but still this is pretty sh**ty to be happening on some high end gpu's.

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1 hour ago, Blademaster91 said:

He does have other vids of some AMD cards with rather crap power delivery, but still this is pretty sh**ty to be happening on some high end gpu's.

tbf pretty much every electronics based company uses cheap components, i know of some that cost over 10,000 bucks a pop that have solder quality that is questionable at best and part quality that isn't any better. Ultimately if the parts are bad I can't fault Nvidia but if the design is bad thats another story, I'm sure more people will look into this further and some conclusion on the matter will be reached.

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O, those GPUs.  Yeah, no surprise.

I remembered chaps with OG Titans having the caps pop.  So, this don't surprise me one bit.

 

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15 hours ago, 2FA said:

They replaced my 980 Ti with a 1080...

Yea... I was a bit disappointed when I got a 1070 (especially when a 1070 is all around slightly weaker compared to 980 ti)... I live in the EU though, and sent mine in at February 24th. Where and when did you send in yours?

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20 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

If you don't plug it in, then you have nothing to worry about. It will last for a very long time.

So there you go, no problem! :)

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