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Ryzen Laptops with discrete graphics?

Noyu

Are there laptops like these? My boss is asking me to look for a laptop.

Baseline is he wants the GPU to be at least a GTX1060.

It's for his son and the workload will mostly be 3D modelling and probably simulation software.

 

Budget is 62,000 PhP which is around 1200$ USD.

 

I initially recommended a DIY PC, but with that budget and the shit GPU and RAM prices, I doubt it'll be worth.

 

Anyways, are there any Ryzen laptops in the market with discrete graphics?

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Asus GL702ZC seems to be the only one, with Ryzen 7 1700 and RX580. Linus tested it out in the past, though it is out of your budget (more so if you count in price inflation in places outside the US)

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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19 minutes ago, Noyu said:

 

Just search on newegg for a laptop with dedicated graphics

 

You can get a Ryzen APU laptop

 

Buy an R3 2200G/R5 2400G Desktop will be alright for 1080p gaming and should cost you $600 or less

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

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30 minutes ago, Noyu said:

Anyways, are there any Ryzen laptops in the market with discrete graphics?

No. There were but they're gone. Also you won't be able to find those prices over in your region. The best deal I've seen so far was a desktop Alienware Aurora with a ryzen 1600 and a gtx 1080 for $1200. For laptops in that range you usually get an i7 7700hq and a 1070.

 

AMD is not allowing vendors to put out ryzen cpus with nvidia graphics at this time. You could get it custom from some other vendors probably but not for $1200 in a laptop form.

 
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For his sons a 2400g will do. Cheap and powerful enough to do those task.

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There's only one Ryzen mobile CPU for now which is the low power APU (15-25W TDP). Ryzen high performance mobile CPU haven't released.

 

Most Ryzen mobile APU (2200U, 2500U, 2700U) laptops don't have dGPU. The only one with dGPU is Acer Nitro 5 with RX 560 which is believe, it isn't available yet. There's GL702ZC with desktop Ryzen CPU, but it has many weaknesses and needs repaste, probably out of your budget too.

 

FYI, Ryzen U APU generally performs between 7300HQ and 7700HQ. However the platform hasn't mature and there are issues like poor battery life, inconsistent CPU performance and buggy firmware/software.

 

I'll suggest N950TP6 if you need a laptop with high CPU performance. Desktop Coffee Lake CPU 8400/8700+1060.

 

The most important question: Do you need portability?

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Thanks for the info guys! so looks like I'll either

  1. Convince them to go with a R5 2400G + 16GB RAM desktop. Then add a dGPU down the line (when GPU prices let up or when they have money to spend); or
  2. Let them buy a 7300HQ + 1060 laptop; or
  3. They can add a bit more for a 7700HQ + 1060.

P.S.

AFAIK, the son is not even a gamer, so I would assume the load would mostly be CAD, simulations, and rendering (he's being groomed to be in Eng'g). From a few google searches, it seems they won't need a 1060 for this, and they should appreciate more CPU power (cores and threads)

 

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8 minutes ago, Noyu said:

the load would mostly be CAD, simulations, and rendering (he's being groomed to be in Eng'g). 

CAD? Does he need a quadro then?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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27 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

CAD? Does he need a quadro then?

Nah. It's one of Autodesk's lower requirement programs. Their other ones are not so forgiving though and benefit from things like 16gb RAM and stronger cpus. But even an i5 + 1050 8gb ram can run them for basic to average use just fine.

 

If you don't know why you would pick a quadro over a consumer grade card other than "productivity software should use a quadro" then you shouldn't be considering buying any. :P

 
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19 minutes ago, MaxBunny said:

Nah. It's one of Autodesk's lower requirement programs. Their other ones are not so forgiving though and benefit from things like 16gb RAM and stronger cpus. But even an i5 + 1050 8gb ram can run them for basic to average use just fine.

 

If you don't know why you would pick a quadro over a consumer grade card other than "productivity software should use a quadro" then you shouldn't be considering buying any. :P

Dont know if he will start using more demanding programmes later on. Dont want to buy something only good for a year or two.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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8 hours ago, Noyu said:

 

Desktop's probably the best option, having some kind of GPU is probably useful.

But for $1200 you should be able to easily get an R7 1700 Desktop system with like a GT 1030 or something to get a display output. Just make it ITX or something.

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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