First PC build (Please Help)

[TimidPost]

I'm very new to the pc building world, so any tips or recommendations would be helpful. My current budget is $1000 USD not including peripherals but I am willing to pay $200 more if it's worth it. It's mainly for gaming and I don't care much for RGB and if possible it would be nice to have it water cooled. Thanks in advance

[LienusLateTips]

Country?

[Brooksie359]

Honestly the best option right now would be to buy a prebuilt system as they haven't inflated in price very much but the single components like gpus and ram have. 

[General Winter]

prebuilts are going to be a much better option

 

i would work with this, this is a very good price for a 1080 build https://www.pcgamer.com/this-hp-omen-desktop-with-a-geforce-gtx-1080-is-on-sale-for-1012/?utm_content=bufferb549e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamerfb

[Brooksie359]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-7700-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-120gb-solid-state-drive-1tb-hard-drive-gray-black/6032004.p?skuId=6032004 you wouldn't be able to build something like this for the same price. 

[Daniel Z.]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($72.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: GeIL - EVO FORZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($97.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 4GB GTS XXX Edition Video Card  ($349.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($83.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1164.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-11 17:49 EDT-0400

 

Or go for the 1080 prebuilt, flip the 1080, and buy a 980Ti

[radiantai2001]

don't buy a pc right now, just be patient and wait for ram and gpu prices to come down

[TurbulentWinds]

4 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-7700-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-120gb-solid-state-drive-1tb-hard-drive-gray-black/6032004.p?skuId=6032004 you wouldn't be able to build something like this for the same price. 

I wouldn't lock yourself into 7th gen.

[General Winter]

Just now, Daniel Z. said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($72.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: GeIL - EVO FORZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($97.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 4GB GTS XXX Edition Video Card  ($349.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($83.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1164.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-11 17:49 EDT-0400

 

Or go for the 1080 prebuilt, flip the 1080, and buy a 980Ti

why on gods earth would you flip a 1080 for a 980ti

 

a 1080 directly outperforms a 980ti by a very large margin and they both cost about the same (or not enough to make it worth flipping), there is literally no value in such a horrible suggestion atm

 

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-vs-Nvidia-GTX-980-Ti/3603vs3439

[General Winter]

6 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-7700-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-120gb-solid-state-drive-1tb-hard-drive-gray-black/6032004.p?skuId=6032004 you wouldn't be able to build something like this for the same price. 

thats not the best prebuilt and it is much weaker then what i shared by a very significant margin

 

if you read the article, you can add ram and SSD storage and you'll still have a pretty solid discount with the same code, this 1060 build is practically a scam compared to the HP

[Daniel Z.]

8 minutes ago, General Winter said:

why on gods earth would you flip a 1080 for a 980ti

 

a 1080 directly outperforms a 980ti by a very large margin and they both cost about the same (or not enough to make it worth flipping), there is literally no value in such a horrible suggestion atm

 

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-vs-Nvidia-GTX-980-Ti/3603vs3439

you can flip a 1080 for like 800 and a 980Ti costs around 500.

[General Winter]

7 minutes ago, Daniel Z. said:

you can flip a 1080 for like 800 and a 980Ti costs around 500.

and then there is shipping cost and selling fees(varies by site) and if you are fortunate enough to have a smooth transaction you'll make about $250 give or take; most of that profit will be burnt however on the 980ti higher power draw which means in addition to having a less powerful gpu, it now consumes more power which will make the upkeep cost more, especially in the long term making the whole flip a complete and utter waste of time as the money you just earned will be consumed by the far less efficient 980ti

 

https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/gtx_1080_vs_gtx_980ti_-_specifications_comparison/1

[seon123]

6 minutes ago, General Winter said:

most of that profit will be burnt however on the 980ti higher power draw which means in addition to having a less powerful gpu, it now consumes more power which will make the upkeep cost more, especially in the long term making the whole flip a complete and utter waste of time as the money you just earned will be consumed by the far less efficient 980ti

Assuming 8 hours of 100% load every day for four years with an electricity cost of 12c/kWh, that'll be less than a $100 difference in cost. With less than 8 hours of full load every single day, that'll be less. 

[General Winter]

Just now, seon123 said:

Assuming 8 hours of 100% load every day for four years with an electricity cost of 12c/kWh, that'll be less than a $100 difference in cost. With less than 8 hours of full load every single day, that'll be less. 

i don't know OPs cost of electricity but if it were that cheap then maybe it'd be viable

 

even then this is literally OP's first build, i doubt he has the experience and knowledge to asset flip without risk (he could figure it out but i wouldn't recommend handicapping yourself and risk making nothing[especially ebay's assume the buyer is correct first policy] for an extra $200 bucks)

[TimidPost]

2 hours ago, JDE said:

Country?

United States of America

[TimidPost]

2 hours ago, Daniel Z. said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($72.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: GeIL - EVO FORZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($97.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 4GB GTS XXX Edition Video Card  ($349.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($83.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1164.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-11 17:49 EDT-0400

 

Or go for the 1080 prebuilt, flip the 1080, and buy a 980Ti

I would go for this but the video card is currently unavailable for that price.

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($179.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($95.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: GeIL - EVO FORZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Toshiba - 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB OCV1 Video Card  ($364.98 @ Newegg Business) 
Case: Thermaltake - Core G21 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1006.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-11 21:00 EDT-0400

[LienusLateTips]

3 hours ago, Legolas said:

United States of America

 

2 hours ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($179.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($95.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: GeIL - EVO FORZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Toshiba - 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB OCV1 Video Card  ($364.98 @ Newegg Business) 
Case: Thermaltake - Core G21 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1006.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-11 21:00 EDT-0400

^^^

basically all day i piggyback off him

[TimidPost]

31 minutes ago, JDE said:

 

^^^

basically all day i piggyback off him

Forgetting about price, would it be better to just have one large SSD instead of an SSD and a Hard Drive?

Also, What CPU cooler should I get?

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, Legolas said:

Forgetting about price, would it be better to just have one large SSD instead of an SSD and a Hard Drive?

Also, What CPU cooler should I get?

the stock cooler should work just fine, if it gets too hot then get a raijintek aidos for $10.

one larger SSD will cost more than a smaller SSD and one HDD.

[TimidPost]

Just now, herman mcpootis said:

the stock cooler should work just fine, if it gets too hot then get a raijintek aidos for $10.

one larger SSD will cost more than a smaller SSD and one HDD.

But what's the difference between having just the SSD and having both an SSD and an HDD?

[LienusLateTips]

1 hour ago, Legolas said:

But what's the difference between having just the SSD and having both an SSD and an HDD?

SSD only: 1TB ~$300 USD, put all your games on boot on it

250GB SSD + 1TB HDD: ~$120 USD, boot off SSD (more than enough), put documents, files, games, video on HDD.

[TimidPost]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LkgnnH

 

I added a CPU cooler, changed it to a 2TB HDD, and changed the case. Does that look good?