How many cigarretes are too much?

[Nalgasp3ludas]

when can I consider this an addiction? I smoke between 5-6 cigarretes daily (red malboros, and red lucky strikes) and Im no cowboy btw. 

[SansVarnic]

The very first one you smoked.

[Elite14]

The first one is too much

 

[ARikozuM]

When you smoke enough that your budget lacks lunch as an item. 

[JoostinOnline]

Are you serious?  ONE IS TOO MANY!!!! Why people still smoke is beyond me.  Setting lung cancer aside, it's just horrible for the rest of your body.

[Thermosman]

Its hard to stop, I would definetley consider that an addiction. How long have you been smoking? Go to you doctor and they may be able to prescribe nicotine treatments that will help you stop smoking. There are also other treatments

[wasab]

quit the tobacco if you value your health and life. Look around you, have you ever seen anyone age 60 and over smokes? How many cane walking senior citizens can be seen lighting up a cigarettes? almost none? well, there is a good reason for that... 

 

funny fact, i actually smoke my first cigarettes when i was 8(was curious) and cough like hell. the feeling was just horrible. Why anyone wish to torture themselves by smoking these things was beyond me. I try alcohol when i was 10 and beer tasted just goddamn awful. I much more prefer the taste of sweet coca cola(not that it is any healthier for you) 

[Drak3]

5 minutes ago, wasab said:

have you ever seen anyone age 60 and over smokes?

Yes, constantly.

[Canada EH]

42 minutes ago, Teejo said:

when can I consider this an addiction? I smoke between 5-6 cigarretes daily (red malboros, and red lucky strikes) and Im no cowboy btw. 

Yup you have an addiction, a very unhealthy addiction

 

You need a cessation program

 

Most frequent smokers who live always have that horrible hacking cough.

[wasab]

3 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Yes, constantly.

well, congrats to them. i guess the improvements in health care  and technologies certainly are extending their life span as long as the neither the public tax money or their own savings can burn out for their treatments before they die. 

Edited March 7, 2018 by wasab
grammar

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, wasab said:

well, congrats to them. i guess the improvements in health care  and technologies certainly are extending their life span as long as the neither the public tax money or their own savings can burn out for their treatments before they die. 

Or the effects of smoking cigarettes are exaggerated.

 

Heavily.

[wasab]

9 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Or the effects of smoking cigarettes are exaggerated.

 

Heavily.

Not from what i can observe. Those who smoke look atrocious. 30 year olds look like 40s and 40 year old smokers look like 50s. 

I can wager that i will outlive most of them. 

 

Edit: smokers usually have 10 years shorter life expectancy so if the average life expectancy is like 74 in your country and you smoke, expect o live around 64 years if you are like most, below that if you are unlucky and above that if you are lucky but dont try pushing your luck... 

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[Statik]

Smoking darts breaking hearts.

[Tsuki]

take a day or 2 off and tell us how you feel.  you'll know pretty quick that you're addicted.

[KingKeith55]

probably like half a pack is where i would draw the line.

 

I used to smoke a quarter pack a day but I cut back to only having like 2 or something. only exception is when im out with friends or some shit, then I smoke more.

 

in Canada cigarettes are expensive as fuck unless you're smoking shitty native smokes, so i won't ever go over a quarter pack a day.

 

as for where you feel addicted i would say the quarter pack a day mark is where if you stop you will want one pretty bad. Not like you need one but you want one really bad, personally i had no trouble quitting at that amount. (although i still really wanted a cigarette especially if someone else was having one)

 

i can't say what it's like trying to quit after smoking more than that because I set limits for my bad habits.

[ATFink]

You might know this already, but you might not so I will talk away:

 

Lessening your consumption will NOT treat the addiction. It will only keep you in the thralls of craving without the hunger ever ending. The continual smoking will keep you addicted, but the low nicotine intake will always make you crave.

 

It only takes a couple packs before your body develops a physical addiction. Regulating to a few a day does not change that. Trust me, my brother is a smoker and has been for almost a decade now. He has smoked since his mid-teens. He is in his early twenties. He hates smoking with a passion but can't stop without a large struggle. Three weeks ago he gave me his e-cig and told me to destroy it because he couldn't do it himself and he needed to stop smoking since it was starting to run his life... again.

 

The way nicotine affects you is that it will beg begin to control the release hormones that regulate your mood properly since your body will become dependent on the substance. It also controls bowel movements, so using the restroom without smoking first will become more difficult. Apparently it's like a hunger. You need to smoke like you need to eat when your hungry, drink when your thirsty, or sleep when you're tired. That's what addiction is like to your body... much much more than just a bad habit. You will feel horrible trying to quit if you've done this for a short period of time, and it will affect you for the rest of your life if you've been smoking for some time now. That may sound tough, but that's the way it is. Hence why smoking is illegal for people under 18 in the US and why smoking advertisements are so heavily regulated. Even though quitting may hurt it doesn't change the fact that quitting will save you a fortune and will be extremely good for your health.

 

My brother says his cravings never really go away completely but they do lessen after a few weeks away from nicotine. One cigarette is all it takes before he is hooked again now. So don't ever touch another cigarette for the rest of your life.

 

9 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Or the effects of smoking cigarettes are exaggerated.

 

Heavily.

What specific effects do you think are exaggerated?

[Thermosman]

20 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Or the effects of smoking cigarettes are exaggerated.

 

Heavily.

exaggerated or not?

54 minutes ago, Elite14 said:

The first one is too much

 

I think not...

[Drak3]

2 minutes ago, Thermosman said:

exaggerated or not?

I think not...

Yes, because cotton balls are even remotely analogous to lungs.

 

5 minutes ago, ATFink said:

What specific effects do you think are exaggerated?

Specific effects, none. What it takes to achieve them, quite.

[Thermosman]

Just now, Drak3 said:

Yes, because cotton balls are even remotely analogous to lungs.

 

Specific effects, none. What it takes to achieve them, quite.

are you saying that smoking being bad is some conspiracy?

[Drak3]

Just now, Thermosman said:

are you saying that smoking being bad is some conspiracy?

In some capacity, yes.

 

As bad as portrayed, no.

 

 

In case anyone needs the definition of 'exaggerate.'

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exaggerate

[BuckGup]

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[Thermosman]

1 minute ago, Drak3 said:

In some capacity, yes.

 

As bad as portrayed, no.

facts:

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/index.htm

Quote

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falsehoods:

https://www.smokershistory.com/

if you believe this BS i feel bad for you

[wasab]

7 minutes ago, Thermosman said:

facts:

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/index.htm

falsehoods:

https://www.smokershistory.com/

if you believe this BS i feel bad for you

ok, people can believe what they want but tax money can go elsewhere better than treating cigarettes related illnesses. Taxes paid by the tobacco industry and the jobs it generated no where out weights the harm it does to public health and peoples lives. 

 

Also, dont affect those around your with your second hand smoke. Smoking should be ban in all public places. 

[Thermosman]

6 minutes ago, wasab said:

Taxes paid by the tobacco industry and the jobs it generated no where out weights the harm it does to public health and peoples lives. 

 

I disagree. Most taxes on tobacco products are there as deterrents to buy them. Also, no amount of government revenue can make up for the lives of the estimated 37.8 million smokers in the US even with treatment programs.

[leo1798]

2 hours ago, Drak3 said:

Yes, constantly.

They're probably in their 40's or 50's and look 10-20 years older than they actually are. I've seen 40 year olds who look far worse than my 81 year old grandmother due to years of smoking. I have seen a few older smokers, but they look like walking slabs of leather and smell like cat vomit and dust.