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"All-Gaming" System:

Rosewill Cullinan Gaming case on Amazon: http://geni.us/waY1 
Deepcool Gamer Storm fans on Amazon: http://geni.us/voTPS
Antec High Current Gamer 620W PSU on Amazon: http://geni.us/B6jckK
Intel Core i5 8400 processor on Amazon: http://geni.us/sNrL
Deepcool Gamer Storm Captain 120 EX RGB on Amazon: http://geni.us/14SuFB
ASUS Strix Z370-H Gaming motherboard on Amazon: http://geni.us/ofZGc
16GB Apacer Commando DDR4 Gaming memory: http://geni.us/dDmZ3AM
EVGA GTX 1070 SC2 Gaming graphics card on Amazon: http://geni.us/TlNtFLE
480GB Apacer Commando PT920 NVME SSD: http://geni.us/7r0zP

 

"Regular" System:

Corsair 600Q on Amazon: http://geni.us/xT7op5E 
Seasonic Focus 650W PSU on Amazon: http://geni.us/i0EQM
Intel Core i5 8400 processor on Amazon: http://geni.us/sNrL
Corsair H60 AIO on Amazon: http://geni.us/pesJV
ASUS Prime Z370-A motherboard on Amazon: http://geni.us/4xJCt
16GB Corsair LPX DDR4 memory on Amazon: http://geni.us/Hw5I
GTX 1070 Founders graphics card on Amazon: http://geni.us/wb6cD
480GB Corsair MP500 NVME SSD on Amazon: http://geni.us/o5Ax
 

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But are they VR HDR 4K Blockchain ready....

That's the question I want answered.

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Before I even watch it I guess tldr is "It depends".


Edit: Watched it and outcome was actually not "it depends". I was too focused on GPU branding when I wrote the comment thats why. Good video !

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15 minutes ago, Thony said:

Before I even watch it I guess tldr is "It depends".

Or "If you're too lazy or busy to spend time overclocking, it's slightly faster but not worth the 30%+ price increase" 

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The "Gamer/Gaming" tag is a good way to identify super low quality and ugly parts.

 

The quality difference between the two builds is huge with regular build as the winner of course.

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13 minutes ago, violentnumeric said:

Or "If you're too lazy or busy to spend time overclocking, it's slightly faster but not worth the 30%+ price increase"

Yea branding is never worth the money. 

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Aside from hardware that actually affects performance (i.e., the GPU and CPU), I think it's all just placebo. And in fact, I think some designs on gaming branded hardware are worse for performance. Like those fancy heatsinks or whatnot on "gaming" motherboards. My gut intuition tells me that those designs aren't optimized for what should matter: allowing air to flow through and dissipate heat.

 

But unfortunately it's the cancer we have to live with.

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Even if it does not increase performance, it still gives you a better feeling :D

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1 hour ago, emosun said:

RGB adds 10hp everyone knows that.

And in-game skins add  +10% to your skill instantly after a purchase !

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1 hour ago, emosun said:

RGB adds 10hp everyone knows that.

Oh no! Now I need a 7457 Watt PSU :P

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1 minute ago, ATFink said:

Oh no! Now I need a 7457 Watt PSU :P

You puss, all the REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL gamers rock a 10K watt PSU.

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4 hours ago, DoctorWho1975 said:

You puss, all the REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL gamers rock a 10K watt PSU.

pfffffff, I bet yours doesn't have rgb which raises my wattage by 500% 

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25 minutes ago, Bigbootyjudy said:

pfffffff, I bet yours doesn't have rgb which raises my wattage by 500% 

RGB ? Oh come on you console peseant.. does your 10K RGB PSU even run at 240Hz ? 

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6 hours ago, CPotter said:

 

"All-Gaming" System:

Rosewill Cullinan Gaming case on Amazon: http://geni.us/waY1 
Deepcool Gamer Storm fans on Amazon: http://geni.us/voTPS
Antec High Current Gamer 620W PSU on Amazon: http://geni.us/B6jckK
Intel Core i5 8400 processor on Amazon: http://geni.us/sNrL
Deepcool Gamer Storm Captain 120 EX RGB on Amazon: http://geni.us/14SuFB
ASUS Strix Z370-H Gaming motherboard on Amazon: http://geni.us/ofZGc
16GB Apacer Commando DDR4 Gaming memory: http://geni.us/dDmZ3AM
EVGA GTX 1070 SC2 Gaming graphics card on Amazon: http://geni.us/TlNtFLE
480GB Apacer Commando PT920 NVME SSD: http://geni.us/7r0zP

 

"Regular" System:

Corsair 600Q on Amazon: http://geni.us/xT7op5E 
Seasonic Focus 650W PSU on Amazon: http://geni.us/i0EQM
Intel Core i5 8400 processor on Amazon: http://geni.us/sNrL
Corsair H60 AIO on Amazon: http://geni.us/pesJV
ASUS Prime Z370-A motherboard on Amazon: http://geni.us/4xJCt
16GB Corsair LPX DDR4 memory on Amazon: http://geni.us/Hw5I
GTX 1070 Founders graphics card on Amazon: http://geni.us/wb6cD
480GB Corsair MP500 NVME SSD on Amazon: http://geni.us/o5Ax
 

From the beginning of the video I know there wasn't much different between the two 

 

The real question is what about laptops ?

I'm sure you guys have so many laptops in warehouse you can check and compare it with gaming one 

 

After all I want buy laptop and I really want know 

1- what is better ?

2- will live more time after heavy duty of gaming and work ?

And

3- Is it run cooler and doesn't drop frame ?

Thanks :)

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7 minutes ago, Not_Sean said:

RGB ? Oh come on you console peseant.. does your 10K RGB PSU even run at 240Hz ? 

nah fam, it runs at -30hz which being an inverted value raises the efficiency by 456% which then pays all my bills for me

The only reason I'm here is that I have homework that I don't want to do

 

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1 hour ago, Bigbootyjudy said:

nah fam, it runs at -30hz which being an inverted value raises the efficiency by 456% which then pays all my bills for me

Pfft, i mine 1 bitcoin per hour with mine.

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8 hours ago, Legendarypoet said:

But are they VR HDR 4K Blockchain ready....

 

 

It's got what gamers crave!

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Exactly what I thought. 

 

Gaming parts don't give any improvement in performance. You're really paying more for the brand and additional features that you may or may not care about. 

 

I'm a minimalist guy, so I tend to take parts that are functionally useful while looking understated. My laptop says otherwise though somewhat. 

 

Sure, I'd like a STRIX GTX 1070 but anything else is a wash 

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I keep seeing people say the gaming branded items don't make a difference. I know that stock clocks on say the gpu were higher which gave a little performance increase without touching anything.

 

However, I think this test stop prematurely. People that are buying these branded items are looking to overclock and push their hardware to the limits. Better components, cleaner power delivery, etc... these are all things that are offered on "gaming" branded items. So this could actually effect the performance increase you could see when these items are overclocked.

 

Have you ever tried to overclock on a cheap board vs a fully loaded premium board? I have tried both and while on the cheap/midrange board I was able to get decent results... I was still able to more easily pull off the same clocks and even increase them to a new level on a premium board.

 

So my point is there is more to these items than just stock level performance. If we look at just the GPU the gaming edition will be able to run at higher clocks because of a better cooler on the card. So temps will come down and temps will increase. It will also mean that card will be more capable of being silent than the stock blower style card. I think this test was flawed and didn't actually test these "gaming" branded items in area they are suppose to excel.

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When local sites here put products like that with the URL containing their name it says "gayming"

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19 hours ago, CPotter said:

 

"All-Gaming" System:

Rosewill Cullinan Gaming case on Amazon: http://geni.us/waY1 
Deepcool Gamer Storm fans on Amazon: http://geni.us/voTPS
Antec High Current Gamer 620W PSU on Amazon: http://geni.us/B6jckK
Intel Core i5 8400 processor on Amazon: http://geni.us/sNrL
Deepcool Gamer Storm Captain 120 EX RGB on Amazon: http://geni.us/14SuFB
ASUS Strix Z370-H Gaming motherboard on Amazon: http://geni.us/ofZGc
16GB Apacer Commando DDR4 Gaming memory: http://geni.us/dDmZ3AM
EVGA GTX 1070 SC2 Gaming graphics card on Amazon: http://geni.us/TlNtFLE
480GB Apacer Commando PT920 NVME SSD: http://geni.us/7r0zP

 

"Regular" System:

Corsair 600Q on Amazon: http://geni.us/xT7op5E 
Seasonic Focus 650W PSU on Amazon: http://geni.us/i0EQM
Intel Core i5 8400 processor on Amazon: http://geni.us/sNrL
Corsair H60 AIO on Amazon: http://geni.us/pesJV
ASUS Prime Z370-A motherboard on Amazon: http://geni.us/4xJCt
16GB Corsair LPX DDR4 memory on Amazon: http://geni.us/Hw5I
GTX 1070 Founders graphics card on Amazon: http://geni.us/wb6cD
480GB Corsair MP500 NVME SSD on Amazon: http://geni.us/o5Ax
 

So... AKA "We are going to get overpriced "Non gaming" parts and get reasonably priced "gaming parts" and pretend that the SSD's and motherboards and cases are the exact same and not just a cheap way to inflate the price of the non gaming pc"

 

 

SMH they got a 600C inverted ATX case because... That makes sense?     

Nope.

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the short answer: no.

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On 3/6/2018 at 4:16 PM, AngryBeaver said:

I keep seeing people say the gaming branded items don't make a difference. I know that stock clocks on say the gpu were higher which gave a little performance increase without touching anything.

 

However, I think this test stop prematurely. People that are buying these branded items are looking to overclock and push their hardware to the limits. Better components, cleaner power delivery, etc... these are all things that are offered on "gaming" branded items.

No, not really. These are things that are offered by some products more than others, but are pretty orthogonal to the "gaming" branding.

 

On 3/6/2018 at 4:16 PM, AngryBeaver said:

 

Have you ever tried to overclock on a cheap board vs a fully loaded premium board? I have tried both and while on the cheap/midrange board I was able to get decent results... I was still able to more easily pull off the same clocks and even increase them to a new level on a premium board.

Sure. But "gaming" branding is not the same as "fully loaded premium board".

 

On 3/6/2018 at 4:16 PM, AngryBeaver said:

I think this test was flawed and didn't actually test these "gaming" branded items in area they are suppose to excel.

They are supposed to excel in "gaming" and they were tested in games. The associtation you imply between "gaming" branding and excelling at overclocking just isn't there.

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