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Football - Ryzen + RX580 + ML08 Build

Hi! So I've been meaning to share my rig ever since I got it last year.

I've made some changes this month and I'm now calling this build "final" (hence, the share).

It's nothing special (relative to modded builds or DIY watercooling). I'm just bored and I wanted to do some showing off ahaha.

 

I'm calling it FOOTBALL because it kinda reminds me of the POTUS' nuclear football. Also an Adventure Time reference :)

 

Without further ado, here's the build:

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G

Motherboard: Gigabyte AB350N-Gaming WiFi

RAM: 2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR4-3200 (16-18-18)

GPU: Gigabyte Radeon RX580 Gaming 8GB

PSU: FSP Dagger 600W 80+ Gold SFX PSU

Case: Silverstone ML08

SSD: 2.5" Samsung 850 EVO 250GB

HDD: 2.5" Western Digital Blue 1TB (WD10SPZX)

 

And of course, PICS (see replies for step-by-step). Disclaimer: I'm bad at photography ahaha.

 

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If you guys have any questions/suggestions/violent reactions(e.g. you have a similar build planned), I'd be happy to hear them.

I'll be reposting this as a completed build on PCPP, with reviews on each component.

 

LINK TO COMPLETED BUILD IN PCPP

Karamo

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CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600 | CPU Cooler: Wraith Stealth | GPU: Gigabgyte AORUS GeForce RTX 2070 Super | Motherboard: MSI B450M Mortar Max | RAM: G.Skill FlareX 2x8GB 3200MHz CL16 | SSD: ADATA XPG SX6000 Pro M.2 256GB | HDD: 1TB 2.5" Western Digital Blue (WD10SPZX) | Case: NZXT H510 | OS: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit |

 

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STEP 1: CPU/Cooler + MoBo

 

So I started off with an i5-7500 early last year.

 

Why/how did I end up with a 2400G you ask? 

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I bricked my fresh 1-month old RX580 earlier this 2018 (mining hehe). Sent it for an RMA. Distributor didn't give an ETA and I read horror stories of replacement GPUs arriving 6 months after RMA processing. Heard about the Ryzen APUs around Feb. Got into the hype. :)

Sold my Kaby stuff.

 

CPU installation and cooler installation was pretty straightforward. Better than Intel's stock IMO haha.

The cooler included with the 2400G is an all-aluminum Wraith Stealth. Not sure about it's height but it fits the ML08 (official clearance spec: 58mm).

 

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STEP 2: RAMs

 

So I had a 1x8GB Ballistix 2400MHz before from my Intel build. Used it with this Ryzen for awhile. I noticed that the iGPU was acting pretty bad. FPS drops on League of Legends. Sold that one and bought this used 2x8GB 3200MHz TridentZs (5 months old).

Actually I was choosing between this and a 2x8GB kit of Corsair Dominator Platinums 2666MHz (w/ free Cable Mod kit).

But I figured the Dom Plats MAY NOT clear the ML08 height limitation. Also these Trident Z's are just much faster.

 

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Karamo

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CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600 | CPU Cooler: Wraith Stealth | GPU: Gigabgyte AORUS GeForce RTX 2070 Super | Motherboard: MSI B450M Mortar Max | RAM: G.Skill FlareX 2x8GB 3200MHz CL16 | SSD: ADATA XPG SX6000 Pro M.2 256GB | HDD: 1TB 2.5" Western Digital Blue (WD10SPZX) | Case: NZXT H510 | OS: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit |

 

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STEP 3: GPU

Got this Dec 2017. Impulse-bought it at around 300$. Now costs anywhere between 400-500$ if stocks are even present.

Bricked it around Jan 2018 (yes I'm dumb). Sent it for an RMA. Got it just now (Mar 2018).

 

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STEP 4: Drives (SSD and HDD)

This 850 EVO has been my boot drive since 2015. It has survived like 3 or 4 systems haha

Bought this 1TB specifically for this ML08.

 

PSA: 2.5" HDDs + Silverstone ML08

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The no-tool bracket of the Silverstone ML08 will only fit 2.5" HDDs that are 9.5mm thick. 

I learned this the hard way. Fortunately my sister offered to buy my thick 2.5" HDDs and that gave me a chance to change to something that'll fit.

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STEP 5: PSU

I had a Silverstone ST45SF-G before. But the cables were just really bad aesthetically speaking. So I decided to upgrade to this SFX PSU.

The market for mITX and SFX stuff here in my country is pretty small. So our options are pretty limited.

Corsairs/Silverstone were expensive af.

Anyways, I can definitely say that this PSU is quieter than the Silverstone I had. Not sure if it's because of the added capacity, or just a better build.

What I do hate about this PSU is the cables. They're thicc and not easily bent.. You'll see what I mean in the cable management photos on the next posts.

 

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Karamo

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CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600 | CPU Cooler: Wraith Stealth | GPU: Gigabgyte AORUS GeForce RTX 2070 Super | Motherboard: MSI B450M Mortar Max | RAM: G.Skill FlareX 2x8GB 3200MHz CL16 | SSD: ADATA XPG SX6000 Pro M.2 256GB | HDD: 1TB 2.5" Western Digital Blue (WD10SPZX) | Case: NZXT H510 | OS: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit |

 

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BUILD TIME: CPU Chamber

So the ML08 separates the CPU and the GPU into chambers.

Here's what happened in the CPU-side:

 

Front-panel stuff were routed under the PSU and the motherboard.

The thick USB header was routed outwards (there's a small channel below the case).

Audio header was tucked behind the PCI-E Riser.

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Installed the drives and the SATA cable for further cable management planning.

 

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PSU Cables: just tucked them where they'll fit.

Cable management is basically non-existent for this small a case.

And that's not including the weirdly-long cables coming from FSP.

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(oh, motherboard LED is on as I did a testboot w/o the GPU)

 

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When the sidepanel's closed, the vents will give you a very teeny peek of what's inside.

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Karamo

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CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600 | CPU Cooler: Wraith Stealth | GPU: Gigabgyte AORUS GeForce RTX 2070 Super | Motherboard: MSI B450M Mortar Max | RAM: G.Skill FlareX 2x8GB 3200MHz CL16 | SSD: ADATA XPG SX6000 Pro M.2 256GB | HDD: 1TB 2.5" Western Digital Blue (WD10SPZX) | Case: NZXT H510 | OS: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit |

 

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BUILD TIME: GPU Chamber

Not much to do in the GPU Chamber.

Just had to route the PSU cable from the CPU chamber to the GPU chamber through a tiny hole near the PSU.

In this image you'll also see the front panel headers routed from PSU cutout to the motherboard cutout.

Silverstone includes a "GPU bracket" to help secure the GPU. I guess this is mandatory when you're gonna set it up horizontally.

 

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Vents look like this when the side panel is closed:

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Karamo

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CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600 | CPU Cooler: Wraith Stealth | GPU: Gigabgyte AORUS GeForce RTX 2070 Super | Motherboard: MSI B450M Mortar Max | RAM: G.Skill FlareX 2x8GB 3200MHz CL16 | SSD: ADATA XPG SX6000 Pro M.2 256GB | HDD: 1TB 2.5" Western Digital Blue (WD10SPZX) | Case: NZXT H510 | OS: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit |

 

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PROBLEMS ENCOUNTERED:

  • I had some problem switching to the RX580 when I installed it (after I initially setup the rig without discrete graphics). Windows wasn't detecting both iGPU and dGPU properly.
  • SOLUTION: DDU then shutdown. Make sure your monitor is connected to the discrete GPU. Disable iGPU in BIOS. When you get in Windows. Install the chipset drivers for Raven Ridge. After restart, install RX580 drivers as you would in any system.

 

  • System wouldn't POST when RAM (1x8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 2400MHz) was overvolted to >1.23V.
  • SOLUTION: change RAM ahaha I'm still not sure if it was some sort of early compatibiltiy problems with Raven Ridge. Or I had bad RAM. Anyways switched to the TridentZ's and enabled XMP for 3200MHz CL16. Works perfectly.

 

  • Already described in a post above, 2.5" HDD won't fit in the Silverstone ML08 tool-less HDD bracket:
  • SOLUTION: switched to 9.5mm thick 2.5" HDD.

 

  • AORUS Graphics Engine - the most horrible piece of GPU software I've ever used. I'd warn anyone using Gigabyte RX5xx line not to use this as it will screw with your clock and fan speeds. It would often bug up the GPU fans to not go over 1500RPM for some reason. I was playing LoL and I was reaching 89degC because the fans weren't ramping up. Upon uninstall you'll notice that your GPU SCLK will lock at 300MHz. I experienced this in both my first and second RX580 Gaming. However, obviously you won't be able to set the RGB with the engine uninstalled.
  • SOLUTION: Install the engine ,set the RGB. Uninstall (the GPU has onboard memory for RGB). Reinstall display driver (w/ DDU).

 

Karamo

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CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600 | CPU Cooler: Wraith Stealth | GPU: Gigabgyte AORUS GeForce RTX 2070 Super | Motherboard: MSI B450M Mortar Max | RAM: G.Skill FlareX 2x8GB 3200MHz CL16 | SSD: ADATA XPG SX6000 Pro M.2 256GB | HDD: 1TB 2.5" Western Digital Blue (WD10SPZX) | Case: NZXT H510 | OS: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit |

 

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benchmarking + overclocking to follow

 

 

Karamo

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CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600 | CPU Cooler: Wraith Stealth | GPU: Gigabgyte AORUS GeForce RTX 2070 Super | Motherboard: MSI B450M Mortar Max | RAM: G.Skill FlareX 2x8GB 3200MHz CL16 | SSD: ADATA XPG SX6000 Pro M.2 256GB | HDD: 1TB 2.5" Western Digital Blue (WD10SPZX) | Case: NZXT H510 | OS: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit |

 

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Why APU if you are getting the discrete GPU? Also what the hell are these reserved comments?

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35 minutes ago, frozeNNN said:

Why APU if you are getting the discrete GPU? Also what the hell are these reserved comments?

So that he can replace the reserves with updates

 

maybe he needs APU for troubleshooting purpuses?

 

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38 minutes ago, frozeNNN said:

Why APU if you are getting the discrete GPU?

 

2 minutes ago, Shreyas1 said:

maybe he needs APU for troubleshooting purpuses?

 

Hi. I explained in one of posts above but basically I had an i5-7500 and was not satisfied with it's iGPU performance. This RX580 was still on RMA  and the distributor did not give an ETA. Local community was scaring us noobs that GPU RMA's were taking as long as 6 months due to the supply problem.

Decided to get into the Raven Ridge bandwagon to get better frames in games.

Just around a week after I got this 2400G (after selling my Kaby stuff), my RX580 replacement arrived haha.

 

Karamo

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CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600 | CPU Cooler: Wraith Stealth | GPU: Gigabgyte AORUS GeForce RTX 2070 Super | Motherboard: MSI B450M Mortar Max | RAM: G.Skill FlareX 2x8GB 3200MHz CL16 | SSD: ADATA XPG SX6000 Pro M.2 256GB | HDD: 1TB 2.5" Western Digital Blue (WD10SPZX) | Case: NZXT H510 | OS: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit |

 

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43 minutes ago, Shreyas1 said:

So that he can replace the reserves with updates

 

maybe he needs APU for troubleshooting purpuses?

I mean, if you aren't tech guy who works with hardware and stuff then troubleshooting purpose should not be a thing because you don't build yourself a pc with a mindset of having it broken any time soon.

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