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[AlwaysFSX]

2 hours ago, bcredeur97 said:

Kind of feeling like doing another roadtrip to a far away land 

 

I’ve done Colorado, Montana, southern and Northern California, Florida(key west), Tennessee/North Carolina (multiple times)

 

thinking maybe east coast as I’m a bit lacking there, but that’s all big cities and I kind of hate big cities

 

or somewhere or the Dakotas? @Real_PhillBert (I think you’re near there?) is that worth it? Thinking badlands but not really sure what else I should see there lol 

Check out some old factories / town in Pennsylvania

1 hour ago, Radium_Angel said:

https://tailofthedragon.com/

 

yawn suggestion

[IKnight]

7 hours ago, AlwaysFSX said:

Can't wait to hear how you also blew it up

 

It was cheap enough to where even if it violently explodes, I won't be out much money haha.

[HM-2]

14 hours ago, iDeFecZx said:

Best non individual colour too

I wanted an F31 to replace my M240i but the mrs wouldnt let me spend that much again 

Yeah Estoril is probably my favourite F3x non individual colour after maybe Snapper Rocks, and then only in bright sunlight. 

[bcredeur97]

10 hours ago, Radium_Angel said:

https://tailofthedragon.com/

 

I’ve been there before actually! Went there in the Miata lol 

 

it was a few years ago while I was on Christmas break. I saw the weather was nice so just basically woke up one morning and went 

[Real_PhillBert]

13 hours ago, bcredeur97 said:

Kind of feeling like doing another roadtrip to a far away land 

 

I’ve done Colorado, Montana, southern and Northern California, Florida(key west), Tennessee/North Carolina (multiple times)

 

thinking maybe east coast as I’m a bit lacking there, but that’s all big cities and I kind of hate big cities

 

or somewhere or the Dakotas? @Real_PhillBert (I think you’re near there?) is that worth it? Thinking badlands but not really sure what else I should see there lol 

Good memory, I live in Fargo ND.

 

Honestly all the interesting stuff in ND/SD is on the western edge in the badlands area. That area is super cool, the rest of ND/SD is pretty unexciting if I'm honest. 

 

The badlands has a ton of awesome hiking and camping places, so if you're into that, it's great.

[Radium_Angel]

47 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

I’ve been there before actually! Went there in the Miata lol 

 

it was a few years ago while I was on Christmas break. I saw the weather was nice so just basically woke up one morning and went 

I gotcha.

Depending on what you want to see/do...the western part of NY is very pretty

There is always Centralia PA.... 

[AlwaysFSX]

9 hours ago, IKnight said:

It was cheap enough to where even if it violently explodes, I won't be out much money haha.

Sounds like that's what you should be doing then

[Bitter]

Sweet dual exhaust bruh!

[Radium_Angel]

39 minutes ago, Bitter said:

Sweet dual exhaust bruh!

I'm not an expert on exhaust systems, but that looks like a real hack job guaranteed to cause backpressure.

[IKnight]

21 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

I'm not an expert on exhaust systems, but that looks like a real hack job guaranteed to cause backpressure.

20 bucks says that things a max 200bhp shitbox which would be fine with a 1.5 inch all the way thru. I doubt backpressure would be much of a problem, if any...

[Radium_Angel]

19 minutes ago, IKnight said:

20 bucks says that things a max 200bhp shitbox which would be fine with a 1.5 inch all the way thru. I doubt backpressure would be much of a problem, if any...

I dunno, I see leaf springs and a propshaft...a truck of some sort I think?

[TVwazhere]

Fun fact, tempered glass explodes when you bring it from a (relatively) cold garage and put it directly facing the sun. It wasn't even a day that breached over 70, and at 9am with all the windows cracked there was no heat in the car

Also fun fact: $0 deductible on glass is great 

[PandaCopyRight]

1 hour ago, IKnight said:

20 bucks says that things a max 200bhp shitbox which would be fine with a 1.5 inch all the way thru. I doubt backpressure would be much of a problem, if any...

the frame and suspension makes me want to say a truck 

[Bitter]

2 hours ago, Radium_Angel said:

I'm not an expert on exhaust systems, but that looks like a real hack job guaranteed to cause backpressure.

 

2 hours ago, IKnight said:

20 bucks says that things a max 200bhp shitbox which would be fine with a 1.5 inch all the way thru. I doubt backpressure would be much of a problem, if any...

 

1 hour ago, Radium_Angel said:

I dunno, I see leaf springs and a propshaft...a truck of some sort I think?

 

1 hour ago, PandaCopyRight said:

the frame and suspension makes me want to say a truck 

2000 Chevy Silverado 1500 5.3 LS engine.

[Bitter]

4 hours ago, TVwazhere said:

Fun fact, tempered glass explodes when you bring it from a (relatively) cold garage and put it directly facing the sun. It wasn't even a day that breached over 70, and at 9am with all the windows cracked there was no heat in the car

Also fun fact: $0 deductible on glass is great 

Ouch, you'll be finding glass for days. Worst I get is my old Mazda will stall when I exit the warm car wash into the cold winter air.

[AlwaysFSX]

8 hours ago, Bitter said:

Sweet dual exhaust bruh!

It's a realllllllyyyyyyyyy long X pipe

6 hours ago, TVwazhere said:

Fun fact, tempered glass explodes when you bring it from a (relatively) cold garage and put it directly facing the sun. It wasn't even a day that breached over 70, and at 9am with all the windows cracked there was no heat in the car

 

Also fun fact: $0 deductible on glass is great 

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[WallacEngineering]

On 5/3/2023 at 6:08 PM, vetali said:

I've seen plenty of dead Hondas.

I mean, any car can die at any time for any reason. Lots of dead Hondas doesn't mean much when they were all probably past 300,000 miles on the ODO or pushed beyond their limits by idiots who think they can just drop in a Big Turbo/Stage 2+ or Stage 3 system without replacing factory internals with forged ones.

 

Honda engines are tough and theres no real reports of issues with Stage 1 on the SI, but you gotta love how these idiots think that every Honda Engine is as strong as a 2JZ-GTE when in reality that 2J was an incredibly unique and over-built motor made for a unique time in history the likes of which we will NEVER see from an OEM on a street car ever again.

 

Stage 1 is simply upping the boost on the factory turbo a bit (turns factory wastegate up to maximum safe pressure before release) and advances the ignition timing to a more agressive setup, thats pretty much it.

 

So no, its not gonna blow up like those dead Hondas you have seen. Remember that the Civic is nearly everyone's first experimental tuner car. Tons of people do stupid shit with them and then learn from it.

 

The factory tune is basically for emissions, its a modern 2020 car and the emissions are strict as hell these days, thats all it really is.

[HM-2]

32 minutes ago, WallacEngineering said:

2J was an incredibly unique and over-built motor made for a unique time in history the likes of which we will NEVER see from an OEM on a street car ever again.

> BMW B58 has entered the chat.

[WallacEngineering]

6 hours ago, HM-2 said:

> BMW B58 has entered the chat.

B58 is powerful and well-built but its not really on the same level as the 2J.

 

The 2JZ was designed by Toyota engineers to circumvent a gentleman's agreement that was agreed upon by all Japanese manufacturers at the time, an agreement that said no manufacturer shall produce a road-car that exceeded 270-ish BHP.

 

But this was the crazed 80's and 90's, every consumer wanted more power. So, Toyota purposefully engineered the 2JZ to be capable of handling 700-800 BHP internally while selling the Supra with just 270-ish BHP from the factory.

 

This is what made the 2JZ such an iconic engine. Toyota literally used a loophole exploit to give consumers easy access to insane amounts of power on purpose in order to turn the Supra into the Icon that it is.

 

 

The only Automotive Achievement I can think of that comes close to the 2JZ is the Nissan R-32 GTR:

 

 

Or I guess perhaps the Mclaren F1:

 

 

[HM-2]

4 hours ago, WallacEngineering said:

B58 is powerful and well-built but its not really on the same level as the 2J.

Actually, they're extremely similar in terms of the sorts of power levels they'll reliably hold on stock internals. Around 650whp/650wtq on 98 RON and 750/750 on methanol are considered (relatively) safe upper limits for both the 2JZ and the B58 for hard driven cars with factory bottom ends. 

 

In some ways, the B58 is arguably "easier" to coax that sort of power out of, given ~600whp can ge reliably achieved with something like a Pure 800 turbo, catless downpipe, Dorsch stage 2 high pressure fuel pump and a tune, with no other supporting modifications other than an aluminium charge pipe. It's going over that point where stuff gets a bit more challenging and where you could argue the the 2JZ has an advantage in "ease of adding power" as there's a lot more options for increasing fueling than you get with the direct injection B58 (basically, meth or bust).

 

 

None of this should be seen as downplaying the incredible achievement that Toyota made with the 2JZ, given early 90s material science. But we are at a point now where we're seeing other platforms reliably make similar power on standard internals with- relatively speaking- minimal modifications. What's really amazing, imo, is that it took nearly 25 years!

[Radium_Angel]

9 hours ago, WallacEngineering said:

The only Automotive Achievement I can think of that comes close to the 2JZ is the Nissan R-32 GTR:

Group B says hello.

[iDeFecZx]

5 hours ago, HM-2 said:

direct injection B58

Not 100% certain but Im pretty sure the brand new Gen 3s have port injection in addition to DI

[8tg]

I hate cottonwood so much

my strategy has been a wooden skewer and suffering

[HM-2]

4 hours ago, iDeFecZx said:

Not 100% certain but Im pretty sure the brand new Gen 3s have port injection in addition to DI

I think the TU2 does have port injection too, but mostly for valve washing rather than actual fuelling. Similar to VW. 

[dragonfly43]

Someone I know wants to sell a a T-Ford 1929 in mint condition and asks me for advice.

I know zinc about these stuffs.

Can you guys help us with info and websites to get the job done without getting cheated ?

We live in Quebec.

Thanks.