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[bloodthirster]

Any e36 enjoyers?

[VirusDumb]

20 hours ago, JoaoPRSousa said:

 

MG Cars - Wikipedia

 

Same company.

no if you read the top of it it says
 

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"This article is about the history of the MG marque and the M.G. Car Co. Ltd (1930–1972). For the current manufacturer of MG cars, see MG Motor."

 

[Skiiwee29]

3 minutes ago, Caroline said:

But you said it was from gm????? what a lie

Chevy is a Brand under the GM umbrella.

[IkeaGnome]

18 minutes ago, Caroline said:

 

Here's where the "Big three" get weird. GM owns Chevy and GMC, both make similar vehicles under different "brands."

You know the meme from The Office?

Spoiler

It's way too true here, even down to a lot of the parts being cross compatible.

Spoiler

 

[IkeaGnome]

10 minutes ago, Caroline said:

So the 3 is actually 2, the other is... Ford?

 

 

10 minutes ago, Caroline said:

The illusion of free choice.

Now we're getting it

 

Spoiler

 

[Skiiwee29]

There is 3, Mopar, GM, Ford. 

 

@IkeaGnome @Caroline

 

[IkeaGnome]

16 minutes ago, Skiiwee29 said:

There is 3, Mopar, GM, Ford. 

 

@IkeaGnome @Caroline

 

I forget about Mopar since the FCA merger and the Ram split from Dodge. And yet I drive a Ram every day at work..

[sub68]

18 minutes ago, Caroline said:

@IkeaGnomewait, SAMSUNG makes cars??

 

Isuzu pickups are very popular around, and compact volkswagens though I've never liked their style. One day I'll paint my FIAT either olive green or bright pink, right now it's rusty white.

Yeah they are rebranded nissans.

[adarw]

4 hours ago, IkeaGnome said:

 

Now we're getting it

 

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I love how volkswagen was made by hitler to become a "average" car.  but now owns mostly all luxury car brands 

[Beerzerker]

6 hours ago, Caroline said:

So the 3 is actually 2, the other is... Ford?

 

Now I know who all the brands in my country learned from. There's 10 brands of milk and dairy products but they're all made by the same factory, just as there's at least 20 different soda and bottled water brands all made by Coca-Cola, all newspapers and news channels are owned by the same group, all ISPs are owned by the same company who doesn't invest a single cent on infrastructure since the 90s, and so on.

The illusion of free choice.

 You're not wrong to think about it as you do but it's a bit complicated, yet simple too in that when you say "GM make" here, you think about all the brands under the GM name.
For reference, this is what GM was and is today: General Motors - Wikipedia
 

[Red :)]

11 hours ago, Skiiwee29 said:

It only auto follows SU's if I am the OP of it, not if it was created on my profile by someone else.

Uhm, oops.

9 hours ago, IkeaGnome said:

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that graph needs some considerable updating, PSA and FCA got merged in 2021 into the company named Stellantis and Opel/Vauxhall got sold to PSA in 2017

[PandaCopyRight]

On 2/10/2023 at 2:31 PM, VirusDumb said:

no if you read the top of it it says
 

 

if you read slightly lower .. its the same brand but different owner as the Chinese company bought the rights for the MG brand .. which in turn means its close enough to be the same company imo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_Cars#Under_MG_Motor
 

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"On 22 July 2005, the Nanjing Automobile Group purchased the rights to the MG brand along with other assets of the MG Rover Group (except the production line for the ZS model) for £53 million, creating a new company called NAC MG UK. This was later renamed MG Motor, after the merger of Nanjing Automobile with Shanghai Automobile Industry Corporation (SAIC). In 2011, MG Motor launched a new model, the MG 6 in GT (hatchback) and Magnette (saloon), which were the first new-generation MGs available in the UK since the MG TF" 

 

[Guest]

14 hours ago, IkeaGnome said:

 

Now we're getting it

 

*Gasp!

Spoiler

Samsung makes cars?

Who would buy a car for 10x the cost of every other car and be happy with it lasting 8 months?

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

35 minutes ago, fpo said:

*Gasp!

I enjoy how you point out Ford owning Ford, but not Toyota owning Toyota or Honda owning Honda

[bcredeur97]

On 2/8/2023 at 9:33 PM, Bitter said:

I'm fairly certain the database file isn't encrypted at all or that anything to do with this software is encrypted at all. One time we had an issue where it would open then close itself. Called up their support line, turned out there was an internet outage and the authentication server was down. Work around? Disable the internet, open it, wait a minute for it to time out on the phone home handshake, then turn the internet back on. It fails in a default to run without auth from the license server. I will say this, their support is pretty good, call in and get a call back within the hour or sooner. They'll just remote in and fix stuff most of the time, guy always seems thrilled when it's our shit broke cause we have decent machines with SSD's that are fairly fast. Last time it broke a few weeks ago he couldn't figure it out. We narrowed it down to a windows update breaking something with C++ in Windows maybe, that was the last update besides defender definitions. Did a restore back to before the update, reinstalled the update, no problems since. What's nice is....it's always the same guy. I think it's like a 4 person company lol.

wow lol. Some people just make stuff without a single concern in the world about security. Always amazes me. I guess most of the time they get away with it because no one really targets them, or has a reason to.

I like to joke when we get a call from someone to our helpdesk, and we end up remoting in and their PC's are really slow, that they can literally go buy an SSD for $50 or so(or less!) and save a ton of money from us, since we charge hourly(though in 15 min increments) for the remote support session. It's literally a win/win: Less time our helpdesk people spend miserably waiting for things to load(it's so frustrating when you literally live one loading bar to the next), and also their support sessions are shorter, so we end up charging them less, and also, we can take more calls that day, makes helpdesk more efficient. 

 

Granted, they'd probably ask us to install the SSD for them, which will cost them. But likely still worth it in the long run. People with the slow hard drive computers likely need to swap their drive anyway just to get a fresh drive in their system before it dies... 

I'm all for being cheap, using your old hardware, just cleaning out the dust and putting a new SSD in it. In most cases that's PLENTY for office work. (though maybe not soon due to software support of old hardware (thanks Microsoft!).

 just don't understand the "im cheap im doing nothing" stance, especially considering time spent with support phone calls. 

[VirusDumb]

3 hours ago, PandaCopyRight said:

if you read slightly lower .. its the same brand but different owner as the Chinese company bought the rights for the MG brand .. which in turn means its close enough to be the same company imo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_Cars#Under_MG_Motor
 

 

but they're entirely different from the company that made this cool 60s miata 

[Bitter]

41 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

wow lol. Some people just make stuff without a single concern in the world about security. Always amazes me. I guess most of the time they get away with it because no one really targets them, or has a reason to.

I like to joke when we get a call from someone to our helpdesk, and we end up remoting in and their PC's are really slow, that they can literally go buy an SSD for $50 or so(or less!) and save a ton of money from us, since we charge hourly(though in 15 min increments) for the remote support session. It's literally a win/win: Less time our helpdesk people spend miserably waiting for things to load(it's so frustrating when you literally live one loading bar to the next), and also their support sessions are shorter, so we end up charging them less, and also, we can take more calls that day, makes helpdesk more efficient. 

 

Granted, they'd probably ask us to install the SSD for them, which will cost them. But likely still worth it in the long run. People with the slow hard drive computers likely need to swap their drive anyway just to get a fresh drive in their system before it dies... 

I'm all for being cheap, using your old hardware, just cleaning out the dust and putting a new SSD in it. In most cases that's PLENTY for office work. (though maybe not soon due to software support of old hardware (thanks Microsoft!).

 just don't understand the "im cheap im doing nothing" stance, especially considering time spent with support phone calls. 

I made sure the new office PC had a SSD, sadly I couldn't predict Win11 requirements so it's an i5 6500. Shop PC is an i5 4570. Neither are blazing fast but they boot quickly and have very little perceptible lag when doing things, feeling snappy and fast is more important than actually being powerful. At least for an office PC. In a couple years when 11 is mandatory I'll make sure both are upgraded to like 8th-10th gen stuff on the cheap, 6 cores is PLENTY for office and web browsing.

 

You know, for laughs I'll try to open the database file in like notepad or something. Honestly I don't think IT security really existed outside the government and military when this software was built, likely in the late 80's or early 90's. It all works fine most of the time.

[Bitter]

2 minutes ago, VirusDumb said:

but they're entirely different from the company that made this cool 60s miata 

 

You're confused, Mazda made the Miata not MG.

[vetali]

57 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

wow lol. Some people just make stuff without a single concern in the world about security. Always amazes me. I guess most of the time they get away with it because no one really targets them, or has a reason to.

I like to joke when we get a call from someone to our helpdesk, and we end up remoting in and their PC's are really slow, that they can literally go buy an SSD for $50 or so(or less!) and save a ton of money from us, since we charge hourly(though in 15 min increments) for the remote support session. It's literally a win/win: Less time our helpdesk people spend miserably waiting for things to load(it's so frustrating when you literally live one loading bar to the next), and also their support sessions are shorter, so we end up charging them less, and also, we can take more calls that day, makes helpdesk more efficient. 

 

Granted, they'd probably ask us to install the SSD for them, which will cost them. But likely still worth it in the long run. People with the slow hard drive computers likely need to swap their drive anyway just to get a fresh drive in their system before it dies... 

I'm all for being cheap, using your old hardware, just cleaning out the dust and putting a new SSD in it. In most cases that's PLENTY for office work. (though maybe not soon due to software support of old hardware (thanks Microsoft!).

 just don't understand the "im cheap im doing nothing" stance, especially considering time spent with support phone calls. 

I am really hoping that eventually Windows puts down their foot and says you can't use a HDD as a boot disk. Tried explaining to the IT guy that everyone on HDDs is gonna complain, but naw SSDs are apparently "way too expensive", and that my i5 system will be plenty fast.

 

I could do my job on a celeron if it had a SSD...

[Bitter]

7 minutes ago, vetali said:

I am really hoping that eventually Windows puts down their foot and says you can't use a HDD as a boot disk. Tried explaining to the IT guy that everyone on HDDs is gonna complain, but naw SSDs are apparently "way too expensive", and that my i5 system will be plenty fast.

 

I could do my job on a celeron if it had a SSD...

I bought 2 250GB SSD's (no dram) for like $35 a few weeks ago on sale. Don't specifically need them right now but I have them for when I do lol. It's idiotic to not have a SSD now a days. Boss bought a new laptop with a 12th gen i5, some ram n stuff, and a NVME boot drive. He's absolutely blown away by how fast it starts up and how fast it finishes updates. His old laptop was some god awful AMD CPU from the bulldozer era with a HDD and by the time it was done installing one update it was 3 updates behind lol, he'd boot it up a couple days before he needed to use it in hopes it would be ready to use and done running updates and stuff by then.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I enjoy how you point out Ford owning Ford, but not Toyota owning Toyota or Honda owning Honda

Yeah but we expected them to do that cuz Honda and Toyota are Japan and have to own the us branches...

 

Ford on the other hand is a US company, so it's part of the Illuminati. 

[vetali]

39 minutes ago, Bitter said:

I bought 2 250GB SSD's (no dram) for like $35 a few weeks ago on sale. Don't specifically need them right now but I have them for when I do lol. It's idiotic to not have a SSD now a days. Boss bought a new laptop with a 12th gen i5, some ram n stuff, and a NVME boot drive. He's absolutely blown away by how fast it starts up and how fast it finishes updates. His old laptop was some god awful AMD CPU from the bulldozer era with a HDD and by the time it was done installing one update it was 3 updates behind lol, he'd boot it up a couple days before he needed to use it in hopes it would be ready to use and done running updates and stuff by then.

My first SSD was a 256gb Samsung 850 Pro. I think it was about 300 dollars, maybe more. I was on a 2500k and had boot times of sub 5 seconds on Windows 7. Now with a 980 Pro that smokes the throughput of that 850 Pro I have 20+ second boot times. Windows says my BIOS time is 18.8 seconds.

 

I'm not sure if its ASUS (was an issue on my 8700k system) or some scuffed software, but its unacceptable. My Razer blade 14 boots near instantly from a restart.

[AlwaysFSX]

28 minutes ago, vetali said:

My first SSD was a 256gb Samsung 850 Pro. I think it was about 300 dollars, maybe more. I was on a 2500k and had boot times of sub 5 seconds on Windows 7. Now with a 980 Pro that smokes the throughput of that 850 Pro I have 20+ second boot times. Windows says my BIOS time is 18.8 seconds.

 

I'm not sure if its ASUS (was an issue on my 8700k system) or some scuffed software, but its unacceptable. My Razer blade 14 boots near instantly from a restart.

Probably a dumb question but do you have fast boot disabled?

[PandaCopyRight]

1 hour ago, VirusDumb said:

but they're entirely different from the company that made this cool 60s miata 

Its still the same company ... its just gotten different ownership, no company is the same compared to what they could have or did make in the 60s ... kinda need to adapt with the times if you want to stay afloat.. hence why every supercar company is starting to make SUVs and/or crossovers

also it aint a miata

[vetali]

17 minutes ago, AlwaysFSX said:

Probably a dumb question but do you have fast boot disabled?

Nope. Removing my HDD helps slightly but its still very slow compared to those older systems and my laptop.