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Swedish Internete Provider Banhof Announces 10Gbit/s Broadband

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Swedish ISP Banhof announced today that it is going to offer broadband with speeds of up to 10Gbit/s for private individuals and up to 100 Gbit/s for businesses. 

The speeds have been achieved by building out their core fiber network, "Northern Light" throughout Sweden. The price is set out to be around 60 USD per month for 10Git/s.

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Sweclockers´ Article (Translated)

In a press release, the Bahnhof announced that they are now starting to offer speeds of up to 10,000 Mbit / s (10 Gbit / s) to private individuals. Besides beating competing suppliers, the speed is a hundred times higher than the national broadband target of 100 Mbit / s (0.1 Gbit / s) for the year 2020.

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For companies, the Bahnhof speeds up speeds further and, in addition to new 10,000 Mbit / s, offers 100,000 Mbit / s (100 Gbit / s). The speeds are enabled by Bahnhof's new fiber network Northern Light, which was put into operation in 2017. Accessing the new speeds thus requires that the town and the subscriber's property be connected to the new fiber network.

The cost of the Bahnhof 10,000 Mbit / s is SEK 498 (~60 USD) a month, which is discounted to SEK 298 (~37 USD) in the first half of the year.

 

Source´s (swedish): https://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/25269-bahnhof-slapper-bredband-pa-10-000-mbit-s-for-privatpersoner

https://www.bahnhof.se/press/press-releases/2018/02/21/bahnhof-lanserar-10-000-mbit-s-till-privatpersoner-for-298-kr-man

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Meanwhile most people don't even have a 100Mbit/s connection.


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so.. is that a symmetrical connection, how much do they charge extra for the modem (because they arent gonna give you a 10 gig fibre modem for 60/mo), how many 5 houses will have access to this option, and by how much are they double-selling that connection because no one is capable of using even close to being able to use that connection?

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On 2/22/2018 at 7:38 AM, manikyath said:

so.. is that a symmetrical connection, how much do they charge extra for the modem

 

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What Uplink Speed Can I Get?

Uplink speed is always the same as your downlink speed! So if you have a broadband service at a speed of 1000 Mbit / s, that rate applies to both uplink and downlink.

 

Translated with google from the companies website. https://www.bahnhof.se/villafiber/

The connection is symmetrical giving 10gbps upload speed.

The fibre termination point "Media Converter" as they call it is supplied by the company (not sure if at cost) which is the modem. You will then need to plug a router in to the "Media Converter" to share the connection around your home. I can't find any mention on the website whether or not they supply routers that are capable of 10gbps. Either you will have to supply this yourself, or it's possible that once you choose a plan and proceed with the activation process that the website shows a list of compatible routers that can be purchased outright or added on to your plan. I tried to attempt a sign up process to get more information by using a few random Swedish addresses, but google translate didn't play nicely with the address search box and I couldn't find an address where the service was available.



The first 6 months of a 24 month plan appear to be discounted to 298 Krona (from 498 Krona) which is approximately USD$35 down from USD$60.

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The price is no more than SEK 298 per month in Stockholm, Malmö and Gothenburg. In more than 50 households, the price may often be significantly lower. For your price tag, contact us via the form below.

So if more than 50 households are signed on in the area you can get a further discounted rate. Hard to understand fully with using a translator, but my guess is this will be for apartment buildings with more than 50 addresses?


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On 2018-02-21 at 9:38 PM, manikyath said:

is that a symmetrical connection

Yes

 

On 2018-02-21 at 9:38 PM, manikyath said:

how much do they charge extra for the modem (because they arent gonna give you a 10 gig fibre modem for 60/mo)

The CPE is included in the one-time fee for getting the fiber installed in your building. Not sure how much that is but my guess is ~2500 USD assuming you don't have any fiber installed right now. It's most likely a lot lower if you already have fiber installed (or completely free if you had fiber installed recently).

The things needed for 10Gbps connections aren't as expensive as you might think. For example you can get a 10Gbps SFP with a 20km range for less than 100 dollars.

 

On 2018-02-21 at 9:38 PM, manikyath said:

how many 5 houses will have access to this option

Not that many. They can't offer these speeds over the municipality owned fiber networks which is most likely the majority of their customers. They are however expanding their own fiber infrastructure quite a bit so it's probably more than you might think.

 

On 2018-02-21 at 9:38 PM, manikyath said:

so.. is that a symmetrical connection, how much do they charge extra for the modem (because they arent gonna give you a 10 gig fibre modem for 60/mo), how many 5 houses will have access to this option, and by how much are they double-selling that connection because no one is capable of using even close to being able to use that connection?

Probably quite a bit, but it's worth noting that they have pretty massive backbones in their new networks too.

In fact, they are selling 100Gbps connections to enterprise customers.

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Meanwhile they offered my house 500/500 for about that price two months ago and we signed lol


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On 2/21/2018 at 2:21 PM, PCGuy_5960 said:

Meanwhile most people don't even have a 100Mbit/s connection.

Or internet at all for that matter.


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I have a 10gig internet connection at home and honestly doesnt make a difference for residential use. Unless you are downloading a steam game, max usage runs around 250mbps with streaming, browsing, using your phone...etc...everything just downloads that quick that it cant window long enough to reach those speeds. 

 

I mean it makes even less sense for business users as usage is even less. :/

 

Still cool as shit though and glad they are pushing the speed base line. 

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13 minutes ago, laminutederire said:

Meanwhile most don't even need more than 100Mbits/s... :P

Most people in the US are using machines that MAYBE have 100BASE-T NICs. LOL I came across a teacher recently that was trying to use a device so old it had a 10BASE-T NIC. We have 10 gig fiber between all the switch stacks in house but we've come nowhere near saturating it.


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Just now, GilmourD said:

 We have 10 gig fiber between all the switch stacks in house but we've come nowhere near saturating it.

We have a 10 gig link to a college dorm which has around 400 active users. Average use is around 800mbps, spikes to 2 gigs. 

 

Honestly people dont realize how much traffic they actually use. 100mbps is more than enough

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Wtf. I'm moving to Sweden. 

 

I pay more than that for 10 Mb. Not to mention if I download something more than 5gb they punish me for days afterwards with 200+ ms response times and max speeds of 100 KBps. Yes, you read that right


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20 minutes ago, Ginger137 said:

Wtf. I'm moving to Sweden. 

 

I pay more than that for 10 Mb. Not to mention if I download something more than 5gb they punish me for days afterwards with 200+ ms response times and max speeds of 100 KBps. Yes, you read that right

Comcast?


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1 hour ago, mynameisjuan said:

We have a 10 gig link to a college dorm which has around 400 active users. Average use is around 800mbps, spikes to 2 gigs. 

 

Honestly people dont realize how much traffic they actually use. 100mbps is more than enough

But imagine all the simultaneous porn streams at 10 gig. LOL


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6 minutes ago, GilmourD said:

But imagine all the simultaneous porn streams at 10 gig. LOL

They are there...I can see them in netflow. Only accounts for maybe 50mbps of traffic. 

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8 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

They are there...I can see them in netflow. Only accounts for maybe 50mbps of traffic. 

They're not trying. xD


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1 hour ago, mynameisjuan said:

Well seeing how most porn is SD, it would be difficult to break even 100mbps

Wait until it becomes 8K HDR exclusive videos upsampled from 360p to try and saturate the bandwidths ! 

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1 hour ago, GilmourD said:

Comcast?

Nah, centurylink


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I have 100/10 for €10/month.

100Mb/s down is enough but I could easily use more if available.

10Mb/s up is definitely not enough for me, however my ISP charges extra €10 for each extra 5Mb/s up... IDK why.

 

My friend has 1000/1000 for €10... aaaaa!

 

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I have 200/15 and we pay like $80 a month. Fuck you Comcast.


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