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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi everyone

 

I have not had much use for powerful GPUs in quite some time. The only things I played in the last few years was Portal, Deadpool and lots of EUIV.

 

Now Kingdom Come: Deliverance joined this small group and I get about 20 to 24 FPS with very moderate graphics settings.

 

Now my problem is this: I would like to go AMD because I don't want to pay the premium on G-Sync on one side and I'd like to support AMD.

 

Problem is depending on benchmarks, the RX580 and Vega 56 don't look to be that much more powerful than my current card considering the price tags. Waiting for Navi might also be  useless since there are rumors that it won't be much better than Vega.

 

Since my card is watercooled, I could see whether I can get a few more FPS out of it via overclocking but I'm not very optimistic.

 

The alternative of going big green is also a bit problematic on account of them working on Volta right now. Is there any reasonable upgrade I could do right now and not regret or is waiting half a year really the best option?

 

I welcome your opinions.

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980Ti. 10 series cards are usually expensive.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

980Ti. 10 series cards are usually expensive.

Thank you, I didn't even think of that!

Now I'll have to check prices on those.

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Don’t bother now. Volta isn’t that far and everything is hilariously overpriced. What resolution are you playing at?


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1 hour ago, Marco2G said:

Hi everyone

 

I have not had much use for powerful GPUs in quite some time. The only things I played in the last few years was Portal, Deadpool and lots of EUIV.

 

Now Kingdom Come: Deliverance joined this small group and I get about 20 to 24 FPS with very moderate graphics settings.

 

Now my problem is this: I would like to go AMD because I don't want to pay the premium on G-Sync on one side and I'd like to support AMD.

 

Problem is depending on benchmarks, the RX580 and Vega 56 don't look to be that much more powerful than my current card considering the price tags. Waiting for Navi might also be  useless since there are rumors that it won't be much better than Vega.

 

Since my card is watercooled, I could see whether I can get a few more FPS out of it via overclocking but I'm not very optimistic.

 

The alternative of going big green is also a bit problematic on account of them working on Volta right now. Is there any reasonable upgrade I could do right now and not regret or is waiting half a year really the best option?

 

I welcome your opinions.

780 should not be struggling like that. What cpu?

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28 minutes ago, Marco2G said:

Uhhh... a used 980 TI costs me two thirds of a new 1070... I think I'll pass on that deal :D.

They do have same performance

 

Atm the price on GTX 980ti is also inflated due to increasing demands, but at least it's nowhere as crazy as RX cards. The best value option is the 970 and 980, but they dont outperform a 780 by all that much to justify the price.


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CPU: i7-2600K 4.7GHz 1.38V (software) --> 1.49V through multimeter Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 2133MHz GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (OC'd 150Hz) TN, LG 22MP55 1080p 60Hz (OC's 75Hz) IPS Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex M260 with Kailh Blue switches Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

Intakes: Thermaltake Riing 12CM RGB 256 x3, Antec original case fans x2

Exhaust: Cooler Master Jetflo 120 x1

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Posted · Original PosterOP

CPU is a i5 4670K I believe. I play on 1440p.

 

And what do you mean by Volta isn't that far? Again, in half a year, I'll be through with Kingdom Come so it doesn't make much sense to wait for me to no longer need a GPU :D.

 

Let me pose another question: What about getting a second 780 for SLI? Back then SLI was stil la thing and while I realise that it may or may not cause issues it should work in most cases, yes?

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1 hour ago, Marco2G said:

Now Kingdom Come: Deliverance joined this small group and I get about 20 to 24 FPS with very moderate graphics settings.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/kingdom_come_deliverance_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,5.html

They didn't test with a 780 Ti, but it should perform roughly the same as a 970 or a 1060 6GB. Unless you're trying to play at 4K, I don't think the problem is your GPU.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, Apepa said:

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/kingdom_come_deliverance_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,5.html

They didn't test with a 780 Ti, but it should perform roughly the same as a 970 or a 1060 6GB. Unless you're trying to play at 4K, I don't think the problem is your GPU.

780 is not quite a TI, though.

I saw on a thread about SLI support on that game that someone with a 980 hat 35 FPS. So it seems to be a realistic range.

 

And since they managed to get SLI to work, I think this would probably be a good stop-gap solution.

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13 minutes ago, Marco2G said:

780 is not quite a TI, though.

Yeah, sorry I got mixed up there. Should still be only a little bit slower than a 970. According to the benchmarks they got, a 970 averaged 29fps @ 1440p Very High preset.

 

Judging from the benchmarks, it looks like the game likes VRAM, so the 780 will be at a disadvantage there, especially at higher resolutions.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, Apepa said:

Yeah, sorry I got mixed up there. Should still be only a little bit slower than a 970. According to the benchmarks they got, a 970 averaged 29fps @ 1440p Very High preset.

 

Judging from the benchmarks, it looks like the game likes VRAM, so the 780 will be at a disadvantage there, especially at higher resolutions.

If it's the VRAM, going SLI will probably not help... on the contrary, I guess.

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33 minutes ago, Marco2G said:

Let me pose another question: What about getting a second 780 for SLI? Back then SLI was stil la thing and while I realise that it may or may not cause issues it should work in most cases, yes?

SLI no longer works well now, other than pubg which throws all the optimization before it's widely available on multi-GPU setup.

 

It's rumoured that Nvidia's new release will come in Q2 2018, still rumour is a rumour.

 

Next gen for AMD will be 7nm Vega, so I hope you arent waiting for Navi since that's behind 7nm Vega.


Meant to be silent, though not quite. Software voltage readings are a lie.

CPU: i7-2600K 4.7GHz 1.38V (software) --> 1.49V through multimeter Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 2133MHz GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (OC'd 150Hz) TN, LG 22MP55 1080p 60Hz (OC's 75Hz) IPS Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex M260 with Kailh Blue switches Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

Intakes: Thermaltake Riing 12CM RGB 256 x3, Antec original case fans x2

Exhaust: Cooler Master Jetflo 120 x1

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7.2k RPM 500GB, Toshiba 1TB 7.2k RPM, Seagate Barracuda Pro 2TB 7.2K RPM x2

 

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3 minutes ago, Marco2G said:

If it's the VRAM, going SLI will probably not help... on the contrary, I guess.

Also seems to be AMD optimised.

 

I'd just turn it down to 1080p.

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I have taken a few steps to alleviate the issue.

 

I have overclocked both the GPU (gained about 20% in points in Heaven benchmark) and the CPU (to 4.4GHz, although it will still crash in Prime95 after a while. However I need to mention here that I was having issues with this system for quite some time. Both RAM and mainboard are suspected of possible hardware issues).

 

My FPS in game went from the aforementioned 20 to 24 to over thirty. So it's playable. I will see how much SLI will do for me and then call it a day.

 

I may try replacing thermal compound with Grizzly Conductonaut. Just for the hell of it :D. Of course I don't expect much more performance but perhaps some better temps and stability.

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