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Is a high end, platinum 860w psu enough?

Damascus

So, I've got my PC up and running again after months of down time and have recently come up with a diabolical plan.  I have 2 gtx 770's already and may get another soon, a 980 ti in the mail and a 6950x all running on a board with 4 pcie x16 3.0 slots.

 

I'd like to run a vm where one pc runs 5c/10t plus the 980 ti, another with 4c/8t plus 2 or 3 770's in sli and the 1c/2t remaining goes to the hypervisor. 

 

Can an ax860 handle all of that? It has enough connectors (barely) but by my calculations the pc will probably take 1200w (200 + 200 + 200 + 350 + 150) 

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2 minutes ago, Damascus said:

So, I've got my PC up and running again after months of down time and have recently come up with a diabolical plan.  I have 2 gtx 770's already and may get another soon, a 980 ti in the mail and a 6950x all running on a board with 4 pcie x16 3.0 slots.

 

I'd like to run a vm where one pc runs 5c/10t plus the 980 ti, another with 4c/8t plus 2 or 3 770's in sli and the 1c/2t remaining goes to the hypervisor. 

 

Can an ax860 handle all of that? It has enough connectors (barely) but by my calculations the pc will probably take 1200w (200 + 200 + 200 + 350 + 150) 

You could probably have it idle with everything up and running, but if you tried to load up each GPU with different tasks at the same time and have your CPU overclocked you could pop some breakers!

 

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No 860W is not enough 

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Platinum efficiency is not worth it, get a gold efficiency psu that delivers 1200w or more if you won't overclock, more if you will.

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You should do it, If you are still interested in the trade we mentioned the 770 is yours

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Oof, that's a lot of replies

29 minutes ago, TheGlenlivet said:

You could probably have it idle with everything up and running, but if you tried to load up each GPU with different tasks at the same time and have your CPU overclocked you could pop some breakers!

 

Yep, I figured as much.  I'd like to OC the 6950x and have 1 - 4 people gaming on it at the same time

28 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

You know vms can sharae cores?

 

So you can give them both 20 threads and they have it it they need it.

 

You want a bigger psu here.

I didn't know VM's can share cores!  Still a noob for vms, do you know of any good websites?

26 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

No 860W is not enough 

Yep, figured as much.  I think I could probably get away with 1 extra 770.  You think I could do just 3 770s?

21 minutes ago, Rasbir Singh said:

Platinum efficiency is not worth it, get a gold efficiency psu that delivers 1200w or more if you won't overclock, more if you will.

I've already got it, bought my ax860 a while back as a redundancy effort without going too overboard (for a really good price)

18 minutes ago, WhisperingKnickers said:

You should do it, If you are still interested in the trade we mentioned the 770 is yours

Hell yeah dude, I've actually got the blocks sitting right here ready to go :)

 

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33 minutes ago, Damascus said:

So, I've got my PC up and running again after months of down time and have recently come up with a diabolical plan.  I have 2 gtx 770's already and may get another soon, a 980 ti in the mail and a 6950x all running on a board with 4 pcie x16 3.0 slots.

 

I'd like to run a vm where one pc runs 5c/10t plus the 980 ti, another with 4c/8t plus 2 or 3 770's in sli and the 1c/2t remaining goes to the hypervisor. 

 

Can an ax860 handle all of that? It has enough connectors (barely) but by my calculations the pc will probably take 1200w (200 + 200 + 200 + 350 + 150) 

So 3 GTX 770s and a 980Ti with a decacore Intel chip? Whyyyyyy?

 

Anyways, no get at least a 1000W unit.

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Just now, Damascus said:

I didn't know VM's can share cores!  Still a noob for vms, do you know of any good websites?

What hypervisor are you using?

 

Im guessing kvm as thats more common for gpu passthrough.

 

A vm vcpu is treaded just like anyother process on the host. If 2 processes or vms want the same cpu time, the kernel will share it depending on priority(you can set process priority when there is limited cpu power). 

 

Also hypervisor normally needs very little cpu, depending on what else its doing. 

 

Normally your have your cores over provisioned as your vms aren't maxing out the cpu and it gives them extra when they need it.

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You should get a 1200W PSU. You don't have to allocate cores as specifically as you are as they will change their load/share as needed. 

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3 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Hell yeah dude, I've actually got the blocks sitting right here ready to go :)

 

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I forgot to get a picture of the 770! I will try to do that tonight, I also need to package stuff for someone else and I keep getting busy. I will make it all happen tonight though I need to get things done

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18 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

So 3 GTX 770s and a 980Ti with a decacore Intel chip? Whyyyyyy?

 

Anyways, no get at least a 1000W unit.

I just really enjoy complicated tdch fuckery and want to see if i can play pubg with 3 firends off of the same PC.

16 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

because gpu passthough on amd is still a pain and requires more work normally.

Actually I just happen to have a 6950x, didnt really have to go out of my way on picking one.  I already had the board and a 6800k, traded my 980 ti strix for the 6950x and then sold the 6800k.  Boom, total cost of $350 USD or so for the 6950x. 

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20 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

You should get a 1200W PSU. You don't have to allocate cores as specifically as you are as they will change their load/share as needed. 

Eh, I think what I'll probably do if I go through on this is hook up a second 650w psu to power 2 of the gpus.  Don't want to spend so much on a project like this.

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22 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What hypervisor are you using?

 

Im guessing kvm as thats more common for gpu passthrough.

 

A vm vcpu is treaded just like anyother process on the host. If 2 processes or vms want the same cpu time, the kernel will share it depending on priority(you can set process priority when there is limited cpu power). 

 

Also hypervisor normally needs very little cpu, depending on what else its doing. 

 

Normally your have your cores over provisioned as your vms aren't maxing out the cpu and it gives them extra when they need it.

As I mentioned, I actually don't know much.  Unraid seems like a good option but I haven't looked into it much.  Oh, I've got a 8800gtx incoming as well for the hypervisors display.

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22 minutes ago, WhisperingKnickers said:

 

I forgot to get a picture of the 770! I will try to do that tonight, I also need to package stuff for someone else and I keep getting busy. I will make it all happen tonight though I need to get things done

I need to epoxy it as Well, going to go to town with gorrila glue and a plastic spatula.

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4 minutes ago, Damascus said:

As I mentioned, I actually don't know much.  Unraid seems like a good option but I haven't looked into it much.  Oh, I've got a 8800gtx incoming as well for the hypervisors display.

How well do you know linux?

 

Unraid works well for a home file server with a few vms, but is missing a good amount of features that you normally get in a hypervisor.

 

Id look at proxmox. You get a nice web interface and many more vm options.

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1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

How well do you know linux?

 

Unraid works well for a home file server with a few vms, but is missing a good amount of features that you normally get in a hypervisor.

 

Id look at proxmox. You get a nice web interface and many more vm options.

I've got a basic understanding of Linux but don't use it much (too much of what I do requires windows)  

 

I'll check out proxmox.

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Just now, Damascus said:

I've got a basic understanding of Linux but don't use it much (too much of what I do requires windows)  

 

I'll check out proxmox.

Well unraid and proxmox are linux, so you will need to know a bit more.

 

Windows doesn't have good passthrough support(2016 only and limited support)

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Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

Well unraid and proxmox are linux, so you will need to know a bit more.

 

Windows doesn't have good passthrough support(2016 only and limited support)

Alrighty, any distro or wiki I should look at?

Want to custom loop?  Ask me more if you are curious

 

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21 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What storage config

1tb ssd for main pc, 256gb Samsung evo + 1tb hdd for 1 and a 2tb 7200rpm hdd for the rest.

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2 minutes ago, Damascus said:

1tb ssd for main pc, 256gb Samsung evo + 1tb hdd for 1 and a 2tb 7200rpm hdd for the rest.

Kinda messy, backups are nice.

 

Id probably use the main drive for all the vms and boot drive, and hdds for storage and share them for the vms.

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