Here's Why The Audio Technica ATH-M50X is a Terrible Headphone

[Max_Settings]

32 minutes ago, savagepain said:

well i dont really care cause im getting a pair for free so i cant complain at all 

Oh yes you can. I wouldn’t even use them for free. This is how your Senpai described them.

[Guest savagepain]

lol i understand you have great headphones and everything i dont so these are great ^-^ and senpai will be senpai lol 

[Max_Settings]

3 minutes ago, savagepain said:

lol i understand you have great headphones and everything i dont so these are great ^-^ and senpai will be senpai lol 

But you could buy better headphones for less than the price of the skin.

[Guest savagepain]

2 minutes ago, Max_Settings said:

But you could buy better headphones for less than the price of the skin.

i dont agree 

[Max_Settings]

3 minutes ago, savagepain said:

i dont agree 

How would you know? ?

[Guest]

I love the M50Xs....

For torturing people.

[Guest savagepain]

1 minute ago, Densetsu said:

I love the M50Xs....

For torturing people.

Yay senpai is on my side 

[Max_Settings]

1 minute ago, savagepain said:

Yay senpai is on my side 

Upon further inspection she realizes.....

[Guest savagepain]

well tell me what better headphones you can find at the price of Free 

[Max_Settings]

1 minute ago, savagepain said:

well tell me what better headphones you can find at the price of Free 

Whatever Senpai will give you.

[kokakolia]

4 hours ago, Max_Settings said:

Oh yes you can. I wouldn’t even use them for free. This is how your Senpai described them.

This is so overly dramatic! The M50x isn’t that horrible. Like I said before, these headphones would be awesome value at a lower price. This is largely irrelevant because the M40x is priced perfectly at $100 and outperforms the M50x. 

 

I would only agree with this picture if it featured any of these headphones:

- KZ ZS5 (version 2)

- Superlux HD 681

- Ultrasone HFi-680

 

To me and to many others the M50x is good enough! There is only so much audio fidelity a non-audiophile person can care to have. It’s just a shame that the M50x keeps getting glowing recommendations despite its high cost, disappointing performance and lack of convenience features like Bluetooth, noise cancelling or simply being lightweight and comfortable. It’s simply put: a bad deal. But it’s a deal many people seem happy about. It’s easy to see why when Bose and Beats headphones cost twice as much as the M50x (but offer many of the the convenience features). The AKG K92 is just as good (if not better) as the M50x and comparatively dirt cheap at $59 (AKG store). 

 

Meh, my conclusion remains: the M50x is a decent headphone but it’s grossly overpriced. You may as well save $100 and get the AKG K92 instead (if you don’t care that much about audiophile headphones).  

 

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2 hours ago, kokakolia said:

This is so overly dramatic! The M50x isn’t that horrible. Like I said before, these headphones would be awesome value at a lower price. This is largely irrelevant because the M40x is priced perfectly at $100 and outperforms the M50x. 

 

I would only agree with this picture if it featured any of these headphones:

- KZ ZS5 (version 2)

- Superlux HD 681

- Ultrasone HFi-680

 

To me and to many others the M50x is good enough! There is only so much audio fidelity a non-audiophile person can care to have. It’s just a shame that the M50x keeps getting glowing recommendations despite its high cost, disappointing performance and lack of convenience features like Bluetooth, noise cancelling or simply being lightweight and comfortable. It’s simply put: a bad deal. But it’s a deal many people seem happy about. It’s easy to see why when Bose and Beats headphones cost twice as much as the M50x (but offer many of the the convenience features). The AKG K92 is just as good (if not better) as the M50x and comparatively dirt cheap at $59 (AKG store). 

 

Meh, my conclusion remains: the M50x is a decent headphone but it’s grossly overpriced. You may as well save $100 and get the AKG K92 instead (if you don’t care that much about audiophile headphones).  

 

Not even remotely exaggerated. They are just bad. It’s not that they are overpriced, I wouldn’t recommend them for anything over $5. There are better options $5 and up, I’m being serious. 

[kokakolia]

1 hour ago, Max_Settings said:

Not even remotely exaggerated. They are just bad. It’s not that they are overpriced, I wouldn’t recommend them for anything over $5. There are better options $5 and up, I’m being serious. 

I know you’re gonna say something obscure from China like a KZ IEM or a VE Monk. Or perhaps the much overrated KSC75 that sounds grainy AF. And I’m thinking

 

You take something immensely overhyped because it’s cheap and a dethroned “flagship” from yesteryear that people who are “in the know” adore to hate. 

 

There’s just no room for objectivity here. 

[lupi900x]

On 15/07/2018 at 3:00 AM, kokakolia said:

I know you’re gonna say something obscure from China like a KZ IEM or a VE Monk. Or perhaps the much overrated KSC75 that sounds grainy AF. And I’m thinking

 

You take something immensely overhyped because it’s cheap and a dethroned “flagship” from yesteryear that people who are “in the know” adore to hate.

The people who think KZ are good are the kind that never heard any good $50 ~ 100$ IEM's. They use like 5 drivers that get owned by the single dynamic of the SE215/Sony xba 650AP. You know they lost the argument when they have EQ out peak's in the shitty tuning they have or use foam tips.

 

Still remember the salt when soulsik reviews, showed that the KZ ZS5 had 2 BA's doing nothing because it had no sound tubing. 

  

They remind me of how the ER4S and the SR/XR versions. Can still beat most 3+ BA based in ears like the SE535. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[kokakolia]

7 hours ago, lupi900x said:

The people who think KZ are good are the kind that never heard any good $50 ~ 100$ IEM's. They use like 5 drivers that get owned by the single dynamic of the SE215/Sony xba 650AP. You know they lost the argument when they have EQ out peak's in the shitty tuning they have or use foam tips.

 

Still remember the salt when soulsik reviews, showed that the KZ ZS5 had 2 BA's doing nothing because it had no sound tubing. 

  

They remind me of how the ER4S and the SR/XR versions. Can still beat most 3+ BA based in ears like the SE535. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Preach! I spent $100 on some some KEF M100s on sale and never looked back. You can buy the M100s (open box) on amazon.com right now for less than $40. You won't ever get better earphones for the money. 

[Skanky Sylveon]

On 7/14/2018 at 9:20 AM, Max_Settings said:

Whatever Senpai will give you.

[Elk]

On 7/17/2018 at 11:53 AM, lupi900x said:

The people who think KZ are good are the kind that never heard any good $50 ~ 100$ IEM's.

 

Can you recommend anything around the the $50-$60 price range n?

Been using KZ ZS6 for months and I absolutely love them, but if there are better options with the same sound signature I'd love to upgrade.

[kokakolia]

7 hours ago, Elk said:

Can you recommend anything around the the $50-$60 price range n?

Been using KZ ZS6 for months and I absolutely love them, but if there are better options with the same sound signature I'd love to upgrade.

IMHO, the Marshall Mode is a clear winner for folks who want a dark/warm sounding earphone with forward mids. It works especially well with rock music. You would hate these coming from a ZS6. You'd be thinking "where's the treble????". But this is my go to around $50.

 

If you want a V-shape earphone (like the ZS6), there are thousands out there. I'd pick the Final Audio E3000.

 

I wouldn't touch the KZ ZS6 with 10 foot pole. I am so done of getting my ears assaulted by screaming treble peaks. I am sorry but if the KZ community as a whole strongly urges you to use foam tips to tame the highs then the ZS6 is absolute garbage in my book. No human being should subject themselves to that. There should be a warning label on these, not unlike cigarettes. It's that awful. I would pick the M50x over these any day of the week. I have to calm down...

 

I am also eyeballing the Meze 11 Neo...but I have no experience with these ones...

 

 

[Wielded1]

On 2/20/2018 at 5:04 PM, Max_Settings said:

K7XX is 62ohm. And impedance doesn't mean anything for how hard they are to drive.

Wow, i just signed up to tell you that as an electrical engineer as well as a producer, you just made my eyes bleed. Even in the best circumstances changing the impedance on the nodes of a thevenin circuit, greatly impacts power transfer in a negative way. It is in no way comparable to at most %15 change that could come from sensitivity of headphones. With impedance you could very well lose more than %80 of power that you transfer from the same source.... that is if the impedance of the headphones is the same or higher than the source's. And i think all headphones are designed to have higher impedance than internal source impedance

[Max_Settings]

2 minutes ago, Wielded1 said:

Wow, i just signed up to tell you that as an electrical engineer as well as a producer, you just made my eyes bleed. Even in the best circumstances changing the impedance on the nodes of a thevenin circuit, greatly impacts power transfer in a negative way. It is in no way comparable to at most %15 change that could come from sensitivity of headphones. With impedance you could very well lose more than %80 of power that you transfer from the same source....

I’m well aware that impedance does reduce the power transfered. However that is a very small part of what affects how hard a headphone is to drive. The sensitivity is what makes by far the only real difference.

 

In simple terms I would explain it like this. Yes a high impedance makes it so your Amp can’t push as much power to the headphone, however your headphones could be extremely efficient with a high impedance and therefore not need that much power. And on the flip side you could have a low impedance headphone with a low sensitivity and it can be extremely hard to drive. Most people consider the Hifiman HE-6 as the hardest headphone ever to drive, those are only 50ohm but they have a 82db sensitivity which is incredibly low. 

 

So point being that impedance makes very little difference in this sense. I thought as an electrical engineer you would know that.

[Wielded1]

1 hour ago, Max_Settings said:

I’m well aware that impedance does reduce the power transfered. However that is a very small part of what affects how hard a headphone is to drive. The sensitivity is what makes by far the only real difference.

 

In simple terms I would explain it like this. Yes a high impedance makes it so your Amp can’t push as much power to the headphone, however your headphones could be extremely efficient with a high impedance and therefore not need that much power. And on the flip side you could have a low impedance headphone with a low sensitivity and it can be extremely hard to drive. Most people consider the Hifiman HE-6 as the hardest headphone ever to drive, those are only 50ohm but they have a 82db sensitivity which is incredibly low. 

 

So point being that impedance makes very little difference in this sense. I thought as an electrical engineer you would know that.

And i just said to you that, changing sensitivity affects power efficiency LINEARLY. It is db/mW. That is perfectly linear and that is out of question. However impedance doesn't affect the power linearly, see V^2/Z where V stands for the voltage that the headphones get(V load, or I x Z load), it isn't linear at all. If you do the maths, instead of trying to give people false information here, you would see that even in max power transfer(impedances are equal) it seriously effects power transfer. You lose like %66 of the power if you double up the impedance. That converts to 3 mw instead of 9 mw. And guess what that changes the volume from 90 db to 30 db. Its like i am trying to teach basics to a kid who has no idea and acts like he knows all.

 

So the equation you see above, it is the power delivered to the load, in this case its headphones. Sensitivity x Load Power equals to decibels,the sound level. 

82 x Load power  vs 110 x Load Power could be and extreme case where we lose %25 of the decibels. But in the most extreme case we change 32 ohm with 300+ or even 600 ohms. I will leave calculating that equation to you since you think you know all these already so you might tell us the answer.

 

[Max_Settings]

11 hours ago, Wielded1 said:

And i just said to you that, changing sensitivity affects power efficiency LINEARLY. It is db/mW. That is perfectly linear and that is out of question. However impedance doesn't affect the power linearly, see V^2/Z where V stands for the voltage that the headphones get(V load, or I x Z load), it isn't linear at all. If you do the maths, instead of trying to give people false information here, you would see that even in max power transfer(impedances are equal) it seriously effects power transfer. You lose like %66 of the power if you double up the impedance. That converts to 3 mw instead of 9 mw. And guess what that changes the volume from 90 db to 30 db. Its like i am trying to teach basics to a kid who has no idea and acts like he knows all.

 

So the equation you see above, it is the power delivered to the load, in this case its headphones. Sensitivity x Load Power equals to decibels,the sound level. 

82 x Load power  vs 110 x Load Power could be and extreme case where we lose %25 of the decibels. But in the most extreme case we change 32 ohm with 300+ or even 600 ohms. I will leave calculating that equation to you since you think you know all these already so you might tell us the answer.

 

You must of went to online college because you have no clue what you are talking about.

 

2 headphones with the same sensitivity require the same amount of power.

[Max_Settings]

12 hours ago, Wielded1 said:

And i just said to you that, changing sensitivity affects power efficiency LINEARLY. It is db/mW. That is perfectly linear and that is out of question. However impedance doesn't affect the power linearly, see V^2/Z where V stands for the voltage that the headphones get(V load, or I x Z load), it isn't linear at all. If you do the maths, instead of trying to give people false information here, you would see that even in max power transfer(impedances are equal) it seriously effects power transfer. You lose like %66 of the power if you double up the impedance. That converts to 3 mw instead of 9 mw. And guess what that changes the volume from 90 db to 30 db. Its like i am trying to teach basics to a kid who has no idea and acts like he knows all.

 

So the equation you see above, it is the power delivered to the load, in this case its headphones. Sensitivity x Load Power equals to decibels,the sound level. 

82 x Load power  vs 110 x Load Power could be and extreme case where we lose %25 of the decibels. But in the most extreme case we change 32 ohm with 300+ or even 600 ohms. I will leave calculating that equation to you since you think you know all these already so you might tell us the answer.

 

10ohm 100db/mw

600ohm 100db/mw 

[pas008]

2 hours ago, Max_Settings said:

10ohm 100db/mw

600ohm 100db/mw 

fun now calculate loss of power for different source outputs lol

shouldnt be that critical but on some amps/hp could be

[Multiversal]

On 2018-2-20 at 1:01 AM, Max_Settings said:

Edit: I just want to clarify for some people who didn't get this. I own these headphones. I am not merely writing a review based off of ignorant opinion of going off a hate train. I bought these headphones and I'm giving my honest impressions. I am willing to admit I messed up and they aren't very good.

 

For those of you who have decided to get into the realm of audiophile headphones you have probably heard of the Audio Technica ATH-M50X. When you say, "I want to get into audiophile headphones and I have a budget of $150 or less." you will most likely get tons of people saying "GET THE M50XS THEY ARE SO GOOOOOOOD" No they are not. I am baffled as to why anyone would recommend these headphones. First let me say why these are popular.

 

These headphones are popular because of a genius marketing strategy that Audio Technica has used. They sent the M50Xs to tech Youtubers who are not audiophiles and in turn gave them rave reviews because they don't know any better. I fully blame this MKBHD review for most of the sales of these headphones. I will tell you that none of the tech Youtubers know anything about audio and you shouldn't take advice on headphones, DACs, Amps, or anything else of that realm from them. This is list includes, but is not limited to, Linus Tech Tips, MKBHD, Unbox Therapy, Austin Evans, Jayztwocents, Hardware Canucks, Tech Source, Tek Syndicate, Dave2D, etc... Now I already know what you are thinking, "That's a bold statement. Why should I trust you over all these massive Youtubers that must know more of what they are talking about than you?" Honestly, I am not going to even answer that question, by that logic why take any tech advice from anyone on any forum because they must obviously know less than the Youtubers. The reason you shouldn't trust them is that they are not audiophiles. True audiophiles will point of the flaws in their audio reviews and the lack of total knowledge of the subject. Take Linus' Sound Blaster sound card review from a few months ago. In that video he didn't explain what an Amp and DAC was properly at all. He didn't even wear the headphones the correct way in the video. You need to take the advice of actual audiophile people when you want to get advice on headphones.

 

The next thing you are thinking is that, "I have a pair of M50Xs and they sound great, so you are obviously wrong." Okay they sound great, but compared to what? If all you have ever used was Apple earbuds and Beats, then yes M50Xs sound amazing. But you have no context. Have you tried other similarly price or even cheaper headphones? If you have no context you can't say that the M50Xs are good. If all you have ever seen for your whole life was 720p, 1080p might look amazing. But there is still 4K and that's better yet. You have to have context of what's available in a spectrum within $100 of where you sit.  I will get into recommendations at the end of this review, but I would take the $5 Venture Electronics Monk Plus earbuds over the M50Xs. I think part of the problem of why the M50Xs are still so popular is the fact that people cannot admit the fact that they made a mistake and bought a bad product. I will fully admit, I am as guilty of this as many of you are. Before I became an audiophile I did watch this same MKBHD video and I bought a set. And just like many of you I thought they were amazing. But then I started hearing other headphones. And suddenly my eyes were open to the utter load of crap the M50Xs are.

 

 

Build:

These headphones are of average build at best. The plastics are kind of cheap feeling and the creak a bit. The headband is an alright feeling pleather as are the pads. Speaking of the pads they are a thin 3 knuckle pad. (Build: 5/10)

 

Comfort:

The comfort on these is alright. The padding on the headband isn't much, but it works. Their biggest problem is the pads are thin and your ear hits the inside of the driver. This isn't an issue short term but starts to hurt after about an hour. They are also pretty light which helps a lot. Not crazy comfortable, but they are fine. (Comfort: 6/10)

 

Misc, Wires, Power, and Accessories: 

The M50Xs come with three wires that are all ok. They are all 3.5mm and use a locking 2.5mm for the connecting to the headphone. One is 4ft, one is a 6ft coiled cable that looks to stretch to around 10ft that has a proprietary screw on 1/4in adapter, and the last is a straight 10ft with the same piece for the single screw on 1/4in adapter. These don't come in any presentation box like the HD6XXs do, however they do include a carrying bag which is kind of nice. As for power, these are about the easiest headphones to drive there are. I don't know if any of you ever made a potato battery in school, but that thing could push M50Xs. These will have no problem running off any source you want, be it a phone or a laptop. These are so easy to drive that the tiny bit of sound leakage my Amp has at 0% is enough for almost 25% volume on these, and I can't even hear the leakage on anything else. On my X7S these are anywhere from 8:30 to 10:00 depending on the song, while something like the T50s sits about 3:00-5:00. The M50Xs are also foldable which is nice for travel and the ear cups rotate 270 degrees.

 

Sound:

This is where these headphones suffer the most they just don't sound good and have major flaws.

 

Overall Sound:

If you ever hear anyone say M50Xs are flat and are great for monitoring, you should instantly know they don't know what they are talking about. These are the most V shaped headphones I've ever heard. Now these are not like most headphones that are V shaped where it is somewhat even, these are the most lopsided V I have ever heard. This graph is honestly what they sound like. Slightly elevated bass, garbage mids, and just the most murderous treble you've ever heard. (Overall Sound: 3/10)

Mid Range:

The mid range on these headphones is absolutely awful. I don't know how no one realizes this. It is also confusing to me. The M50Xs are somehow mid focused and muddy at the same time, which is a weird combination. The vocals no doubt sit forward in the music, they aren't veiled like something such as the HD650s, but the vocals are so muddy. They have no clarity and sound unbelievably muddy and distorted. It's almost hard to describe, but they do vocals incredibly poorly. (Vocals: 3/10)

 

Treble:

Oh boy here we go. These are the second highest treble headphone I've ever used falling just short of their bigger brother the ATH-M70X. But that doesn't make them any better. The treble on these headphones is absolute murder. This is outside of the range where you could argue treble sensitivity, this is too much for any human being. I'm going to link a few tracks later on for people with M50Xs to listen to and it will show you how insane and unbearable it is. It truly hurts to listen to and there are some songs that I flat out can't listen to. It feels like someone is stabbing a knife in you ears.....actually no that would hurt less than these do. Talk about fatiguing to listen to, these are about the most fatiguing headphones there are. And the sad part is the treble isn't even good. There a ton of it and it is super pronounced, but it has no sparkle or clarity, it's very dull. Listening to the same tracks through my 6XXs, Mayflower T50s, and 1997 pair of HD500As, all have less treble, but they all have some crispness that these do not.  (Amount of Treble: 10/10) (Quality of Treble: 4/10)

 

Bass:

This is the M50Xs best category, but they still don't do great. They have some bass for sure, more than HD650s, but not quite on the level of the T50RPs. Still though more than enough for EDM and gaming. Now the bass itself is also average. You hear it, but it is not focused and is very loose. Bass should have a boom or pop sound, while these have more of a blah sound (very technical audiophile terms right there ). They aren't bass monsters like some people like to think, but they are alright in this category. (Bass Amount: 6/10) (Bass Quality: 5/10)

 

Imaging:

These headphones don't image well either. They have some, but it is very vague. I wouldn't even give them an average score. (Imaging: 3/10)

 

Sound Stage:

These have no sound stage. Nothing ever sounds like it comes from outside of the cups and they have some of the narrowest sound stage I've ever heard just shy of the Sennheiser HD280 Pro. (Sound Stage: 2/10)

 

Gaming:

These are the headphones that I am sad to say I've used the most for gaming of any headphones. I've owned these fore years and I have played a lot with them. Once again I lacked context.  They have the low end, but they don't really have the sound stage or imaging for foot steps. I wouldn't recommend these for gaming either because they don't fit into either category of gaming headphone, either the crazy bassy fun headphones, or the super accurate footstep headphones. (Gaming: 4/10)

 

Test Tracks:

Here are a few tracks that I think show off the flaws of the M50Xs, particularly the treble. If you own a pair try and listen to these songs loudly and see if you can stand it, I certainly can't.

 

I am not going to do any direct compaisions in this review because I don't have any headphones that I would consider true competitors. The closest thing I have are my T50RPs, but they have had some modding done to them and are now twice the price of M50Xs so that's not a fair comparison.

 

Conclusions:

I don't know why these headphones are popular and who they are for. Everyone must have bought into the marketing because they are terrible. They aren't bass cans, so not for bass heads. Their mid range is absolutely horrendous and muddy, so not for vocal people. Their treble is ear bleedingly too sharp and impossible to listen to.They aren't monitoring cans because they are V shaped and are not neutral like you want monitoring headphones to be. They aren't for gamers because they don't have the bass, imaging, or sound stage to meet either of the two categories of gamers. They also do a terrible job at producing micro details. Now the ones that they do produce they are super intense and just bash them into your head and are super fatiguing. I know a lot of people would say, "The M50Xs are overpriced and if they were under $100 they would be pretty good." I disagree with that 100%. I don't think these headphones are good for basically any price. Their treble is so insane I just can't use them. As I said the $5 Venture Electronics Monk Plus earbuds, are better than M50Xs. Before you call me crazy, go buy a set and see, they are $5 you have nothing to loose. The M50Xs truly are terrible headphones and none of you should ever buy them. If you own a set, try and sell them I will give some recommendations of other headphones that are alternatives to M50Xs around the same price. All of these are going to be $150 or less

 

Closed:

Audio Technica ATH-M40X:

A thing that's hard for people to grasp is just because something has a bigger number doesn't mean it's better. Let's look at Lamborghini. The cheaper Huracan is quicker to 60 MPH despite less horsepower because of a better transmission. Similarly the M40X is a much better headphone than the M50X. However they just need one thing done to them, they need HM5 pads added to them. So if you add the $22 pads to the $80 M40Xs you get a headphone that has more sound stage than M50Xs, less highs, better mid range, and comparable if not slightly more low end. They are an awesome gaming headphone and also great for music.

 

Takstar Pro 82:

These headphones are cheaper and have a very balanced well rounded sound. Not a ton of sound stage, but are unbelievably comfortable. They do a great job at producing micro details and have spectacular imaging. They also have a 3 way bass switch and will satisfy the needs of all you bass heads out there. Also they come with a crazy nice case.

 

Status Audio CB-1:

Another well rounded headphone. Good sound stage and imaging. Good bass with controlled high and good mid range. Very comfortable, but not the best built headphones ever.

 

Audio Technica ATH-WS1100iS:

Technically these are semi-open. These are a much prettier, much a better built set of M50Xs. They don't have the INSANE BASS like claimed on the box, but they still have more than the M50Xs. Their highs are still a bit high, but tolerable. Mid range is ok, but not spectacular. Not much sound stage, but these are a great gaming headphone. They even come with a mic for all you who want to use them as a gaming headphone. For music these should be tubed to make them sound amazing. These are what the M50Xs should of been and they are basically the same price.

Monoprice Retro: This is another one where you are going to call me crazy for saying $25 headphone are better than M50Xs. Believe whatever you want to, but these are amazing. Insane bass and sound stage. Their highs and mid range is also shockingly good for a $25 set of headphones. These are one of the best gaming headphones there are just because of that hilarious low end and sound stage. Imaging is also shockingly good. They do however benefit from some Brainwavz XL Pads if you have a bit more money to spend. When these come back in stock I'm buying a set.

 

Open:

Phillips SHP9500:

One of my always go to headphones. They sound a lot like HD600s with a bit more sound stage and low end. 

 

Sennheiser HD559:

If you are looking for gaming headphones take these over the more popular HD598. They are not as clean overall, but have more low end which makes them a bit better for gaming. They have that classic easy to listen to Sennheiser sound.

 

Sennheiser HD598:

These are very popular headphones. Probably some of the best under $200. They are a bit more than M50Xs, but often can be found on sale for around $100. These are just a step below something like the HD6XX or K7XX.

 

Hifiman Edition S:

These can be used open or closed with removable covers, but are better open. These are a portable headphone and have the foldability like the M50X. These are surprisingly good. They aren't on ears like they claim, they are small over ears. They do have some sharper highs, but are very fun with good low end and good imaging. 

 

 

Thanks for reading my review. I know it's long overdue. I hope I have opened your eyes as to why the M50Xs are terrible and hopefully prevented someone from buying them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I own a pair of E10C in-ears and as per your appreciably comprehensive review of M50x, I have slight feelings that even they'd beat this guy in most of the aspects. ?