USB 3.0 flash drive as SSD???

[hardtofindinthefuture]

Im poor af and i want a SSD

Can i just use a USB 3.0 flash drive

 

This is the model i want to buy

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sandisk-ultra-32gb-usb-3-0-flash-drive-black/9211069.p?skuId=9211069

 

I have USB 3.0 connectors built into my motherboard, but is it worth it? Will it reduce stutter like a real SSD?

[dcgreen2k]

It won't reduce stutter because it's still slower than 85+% of hard drives.

[Ckdota]

You cant boot from USB without ramdisk so your answer is no.

 

 

Seriously SSD is cheap as fuck regularly goes on sale for under 100 bucks for a 240 gig SSD on amazon.

[hardtofindinthefuture]

Just now, thegreengamers said:

it's still slower than 85+% of hard drives.

huh well then i guess not

[ProjectBox153]

4 minutes ago, Ckdota said:

You cant boot from USB without ramdisk so your answer is no.

 

Seriously SSD is cheap as fuck regularly goes on sale for under 100 bucks for a 240 gig SSD on amazon.

What? No. SSDs aren’t as cheap as fuck for someone who has to earn money. You don’t need a RAM disk to boot from USB. Don’t know where you heard that from. 

OP: Yes, they can work, but they’re not as fast as an SSD. If they were they wouldn’t be as cheap. I have had wonderful experiences running Windows 7 on a USB 2 mechanical drive. 

[Zodiark1593]

9 minutes ago, CUDA_Cores said:

theres a reason USB 3 SSDs are cheap. It's because theyre made with flash that is so crappy, an HDD will outperform it. 

 

If the flash drive is of reasonable quality, then you can expect better performance than with a hard drive. Though the worst of flash drives (whether the flash is terrible, the controller, or both) can perform much worse as well. It really will be a "results vary".

 

Reliability can also be impacted by heavy use, though I found that the better drives will shrug off the abuse of being used for the OS.

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, Jamiec1130 said:

What? No. SSDs aren’t as cheap as fuck for someone who has to earn money. You don’t need a RAM disk to boot from USB. Don’t know where you heard that from. 

OP: Yes, they can work, but they’re not as fast as an SSD. If they were they wouldn’t be as cheap. I have had wonderful experiences running Windows 7 on a USB 2 mechanical drive. 

120gb ssd is about 40. The price for usb stick is about the same. WD Green is an amazing ssd for the price.

[Zodiark1593]

Just now, CUDA_Cores said:

SATA SSD is still a better option than trying to run an OS off of a USB 3 drive. I've done it before and even USB 3 drives that are supposed to be faster than a HDD aren't when there's an OS running on it. 

I won't argue there. There is no comparison whatsoever when a proper SSD can run numerous flash chips in parallel, while even good flash drives have space for only a couple. There is also more to the SATA vs USB 3 story than just sequentials.

 

1 minute ago, Almostbauws said:

120gb ssd is about 40. The price for usb stick is about the same. WD Green is an amazing ssd for the price.

Questionable, though might be worth the risk so long as you do proper backups.

[Ckdota]

18 minutes ago, Jamiec1130 said:

What? No. SSDs aren’t as cheap as fuck for someone who has to earn money. You don’t need a RAM disk to boot from USB. Don’t know where you heard that from. 

OP: Yes, they can work, but they’re not as fast as an SSD. If they were they wouldn’t be as cheap. I have had wonderful experiences running Windows 7 on a USB 2 mechanical drive. 

 

I refuse to accept that OP cannot gather up enough change to buy an SSD within a month. Either OP is overpaying out the ass on his monthly expenses, is unemployed or has a drug/gambling addiction. (Maybe a combination of all?)

Here is an SSD Deal I saw a few days ago:

 

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820242399

52 of my weaker canadian dollars aka 41 of his american dollars for an SSD that is way better than what a USB flash drive can do.

As far as ram disk to boot from USB goes.... 5 mins of google-fu turned up nothing do you got a source on booting any OS from USB where a ram disk isnt created?

[ProjectBox153]

1 minute ago, Almostbauws said:

120gb ssd is about 40. The price for usb stick is about the same. WD Green is an amazing ssd for the price.

What’re you looking at? Last I checked 128GB USB drives were around $20. 256GB USB drives were around $45. When I was looking not too long ago, reputable (meaning not some never heard of before shitty junk) SSDs were around $55-60 for 120GB. 

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Jamiec1130 said:

What’re you looking at? Last I checked 128GB USB drives were around $20. 256GB USB drives were around $45. When I was looking not too long ago, reputable (meaning not some never heard of before shitty junk) SSDs were around $55-60 for 120GB. 

WD Green in my country is 40E.  Reputable brand 128GB USB stick(not something shady from ebay that catches fire) is also about 35-40E. So i imagine the usa prices to be similar. 

Proof:

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-128GB-METAL-MUF-128BA-AM/dp/B017DH3NOW/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1519068709&sr=8-9&keywords=128+usb

https://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-128GB-Flash-memory-Drive/dp/B00P8XQPY4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519068709&sr=8-1&keywords=128+usb

https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-120GB-SA400S37-120G/dp/B01N6JQS8C/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1519068847&sr=1-4&keywords=120+ssd

Something that i found for your price, but would definately advise not to buy:

https://www.amazon.com/Q-ianlon-Stick-256GB-Pendrive-Extreme/dp/B077RBK125/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1519068709&sr=8-12&keywords=128+usb

[ProjectBox153]

7 minutes ago, Ckdota said:

 

I refuse to accept that OP cannot gather up enough change to buy an SSD within a month. Either OP is overpaying out the ass on his monthly expenses, is unemployed or has a drug addiction.

Here is an SSD Deal I saw a few days ago:

 

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820242399

52 of my weaker canadian dollars aka 41 of his american dollars for an SSD that is way better than what a USB flash drive can do.

As far as ram disk to boot from USB goes.... 5 mins of google-fu turned up nothing do you got a source on booting any OS from USB where a ram disk isnt created?

I’m referring to people who may still be in high school (they make up a large majority of the members here). As for the RAM thing, I’ve done it myself. I’ve run full copies of Windows 7 Professional on 512MB of RAM. The OS wasn’t running from RAM, I can guarantee you that. 

[Jtalk4456]

you can get a ssd for 50$

 

[ProjectBox153]

1 minute ago, Almostbauws said:

WD Green in my country is 40E.  Reputable brand 128GB USB stick(not something shady from ebay that catches fire) is also about 35-40E. So i imagine the usa prices to be similar. 

Proof:

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-128GB-METAL-MUF-128BA-AM/dp/B017DH3NOW/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1519068709&sr=8-9&keywords=128+usb

https://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-128GB-Flash-memory-Drive/dp/B00P8XQPY4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519068709&sr=8-1&keywords=128+usb

https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-120GB-SA400S37-120G/dp/B01N6JQS8C/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1519068847&sr=1-4&keywords=120+ssd

Something that i found for your price, but would definately advise not to buy:

https://www.amazon.com/Q-ianlon-Stick-256GB-Pendrive-Extreme/dp/B077RBK125/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1519068709&sr=8-12&keywords=128+usb

Hmm, I must have had some filter or something on messing with the prices. Oh well, they do seem to be cheaper now. 

[Guest]

Just now, Jamiec1130 said:

Hmm, I must have had some filter or something on messing with the prices. Oh well, they do seem to be cheaper now. 

Those dang filters back at it again messing with my ssd prices.

[hardtofindinthefuture]

10 minutes ago, Ckdota said:

I refuse to accept that OP cannot gather up enough change to buy an SSD within a month. Either OP is overpaying out the ass on his monthly expenses, is unemployed or has a drug/gambling addiction. (Maybe a combination of all?)

or maybe im not old enough to get a job, ever thought of that? 

[Ckdota]

7 minutes ago, Jamiec1130 said:

I’m referring to people who may still be in high school (they make up a large majority of the members here). As for the RAM thing, I’ve done it myself. I’ve run full copies of Windows 7 Professional on 512MB of RAM. The OS wasn’t running from RAM, I can guarantee you that. 

People in high school need to have some drive! making me sound like an old fart over here when im not even 30 but it cant be that hard to find a part time gig somewhere. Or a one time two time thing like cutting lawns or shoveling driveways. 

 

Again would be nice if you got something less anecdotal maybe you can post the guide you used to boot from a full copy of windows 7 professional off a USB.

 

3 minutes ago, v0nn_toaster said:

or maybe im not old enough to get a job, ever thought of that? 

 

How old are you? I dont know where you got your 15 bucks (giving you head room for tax and transportation) to purchase that flash drive but do whatever that was 5 more times and you got yourself a SSD.

[hardtofindinthefuture]

3 minutes ago, Ckdota said:

How old are you? I dont know where you got your 15 bucks (giving you head room for tax and transportation) to purchase that flash drive but do whatever that was 5 more times and you got yourself a SSD

Maybe i want to spend as little money as possible, maybe i dont want to go out and spend $70 on a new SSD

Maybe i just want a cheap solution to put some games on to try and reduce stutter

 

 

And for the transportation thing, i have parents or i can just fuckin walk

[Ckdota]

1 minute ago, v0nn_toaster said:

Maybe i want to spend as little money as possible, maybe i dont want to go out and spend $70 on a new SSD

Maybe i just want a cheap solution to put some games on to try and reduce stutter

 

 

And for the transportation thing, i have parents or i can just fuckin walk

With answers like these ima just have to dig deeper..........

 

How much money do you have? 

 

How far is the best buy?

 

How much money do you / can you earn in 1 month? Do you have an allowance? Is there some kind of part time gig you can do to earn a couple bucks here and there?

 

Since you brought up your parents cant you just ask them to pay the rest? If you got 15 bucks now thats only another 30 to your SSD goal.

 

[hardtofindinthefuture]

1 minute ago, Ckdota said:

How much money do you have? 

 

How far is the best buy?

 

How much money do you / can you earn in 1 month? Do you have an allowance? Is there some kind of part time gig you can do to earn a couple bucks here and there?

 

Since you brought up your parents cant you just ask them to pay the rest? If you got 15 bucks now thats only another 30 to your SSD goal.

$95

 

5 miles

 

Like $10 a month

 

My parents dont need to pay for my shit

[Ckdota]

So to recap here:

 

You have enough to buy an SSD

 

You have enough to buy an SSD in 5 MONTHS (sorry)

 

You are "strong and independent"

Looks like my original observation was correct.

[hardtofindinthefuture]

Just now, Ckdota said:

So to recap here:

 

You have enough to buy an SSD

 

You have enough to buy an SSD in 5 weeks 

 

You are "strong and independent"

Looks like my original observation was correct.

Nono from january 1st 2018 to yesterday i got a total of $15

 

Why the fuck would i spend 1/2 my money to buy something i dont need?

 

 

[Ckdota]

9 minutes ago, v0nn_toaster said:

Nono from january 1st 2018 to yesterday i got a total of $15

 

Why the fuck would i spend 1/2 my money to buy something i dont need?

 

 

If you dont need it why are you looking to use a flash drive as an SSD? Tryna make me dizzy over here? Look your 10 bucks a month means in a few months you got yourself an actual SSD for an actual performance upgrade.

 

Here is my advice man:

 

1: Dont waste your money on garbage that only puts you further behind.

2: Check the free section of your online classified every day for stuff to sell on ebay or even on that online classified website. Shit you never know man might get a "broken computer" and find a 64 gig SSD inside!

 

 

And finally here is something that is confusing me:

 

What stutters are you getting using a 7200 rpm drive? I dont know about the rest of the ppl in this thread but I have never experienced these stutters and ive used slower drives. In fact I never owned a 7200 rpm drive until after SSDs came out. Sounds like you need to defrag that drive and run a maintenance script like tron (reddit.com/r/tronscript)

 

[SupaKomputa]

9 hours ago, v0nn_toaster said:

Why the fuck would i spend 1/2 my money to buy something i dont need?

that's the real question i think