Question about anarchy in ancient ireland?

[Theminecraftaddict555]

I heard that irish anarchy in ancient Ireland lasted for a very long time. But was there both freedom and full on peace? As I imagine, there would be more trouble with peace with no government and enforcers? Sources for any statements would also be nice

 

Hopefully this doesn't get into anything political

 

 

[Canada EH]

Another homework question.

 

What years are you talking about?

1500's

1200's

or BC?

[Theminecraftaddict555]

1 hour ago, Canada EH said:

Another homework question.

 

What years are you talking about?

1500's

1200's

or BC?

I think the entire year in general before the country got invaded by britain.

 

Doesn't have to be too detailed though

[Canada EH]

5 minutes ago, Theminecraftaddict555 said:

I think the entire year in general before the country got invaded by britain.

http://www.great-britain.co.uk/history/ireland.htm

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The success of this policy is the foundation of the problem of Northern Ireland today. But it is worth remembering that the Ulster Protestants have been there longer than the settlers in North America.

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_Ireland

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Leaving aside the related tradition of syndicalism in Ireland, associated with figures like James Connolly, Irish anarchism had little historical tradition before the 1970s. As a movement it only really developed from the late 1990s – although one organisation, the Workers Solidarity Movement has had a continuous existence since 1984. Anarchists have been active in Ireland as far back as 1886, but these were short-lived groups or isolated individuals with large gaps between activity.

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The first mention of an Irish connection to anarchism was the Boston-based Irish nationalist W.G.H. Smart, who wrote articles for The Anarchist in 1880 and 1881.^[1] In 1886, Michael Gabriel, an English anarchist, arrived in Dublin and moved to Bayview Avenue in the North Strand. He was a member of the Socialist League, an organisation whose members included libertarian Marxist William Morris and anarchist Joseph Lane. A branch of the League was formed and it is known that anarchist publications were among those distributed by them. Around the same time, George Bernard Shaw (1856–1950) wrote the article "What's in a name (how an anarchist might put it)" at the request of Charlotte Wilson for issue no. 1 of The Anarchist in 1885. Shaw had been taught French by the Communard Richard Deck, who introduced him to Proudhon. Later he was embarrassed by unauthorised reprints, as he was a Fabian socialist, not an anarchist. Irish writer Oscar Wilde notably expressed anarchist sympathies, especially in his essay The Soul of Man under Socialism^[2]

Around 1890 John Creaghe, an Irish doctor who was joint founder (with Fred Charles), of The Sheffield Anarchist, took part in the "no rent" agitation before leaving Sheffield in 1891. He went on to become the founding editor in Argentina of the anarchist paper, El Oprimido, which was one of the first to support the "organisers" current (as opposed to refusal to organise large scale organisations). In 1892 English anarchists visited Fred Allen at the Dublin independent offices to see if his Fair Trial Fund could be used for anarchist as well as Irish Republican Brotherhood prisoners.^[3] In 1894 at Trinity College Dublin's Fabian Society "over 200 students listened sympathetically" to a lecture on "Anarchism and Darwinism"^[4]

In the 20th century Captain Jack White was active as an anarchist in the 1930s after returning from the Spanish Revolution.^[5][6]

 

[Theminecraftaddict555]

6 hours ago, Canada EH said:

http://www.great-britain.co.uk/history/ireland.htm

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_Ireland

 

don't think that answered my question at all

[Canada EH]

1 minute ago, Theminecraftaddict555 said:

don't think that answered my question at all

It helped you get on the right path, did you read those links at all?

[mr moose]

I thought (haven't fact checked though) that ancient Irish rule was similar to the druids in wales and the pagan style religious culture and followed a more localised societal authority.  

 

 

[mr moose]

According to a Geddes & Grosset. puiblication I have, The ancient Irish had a lot in common with most of the UK, There are parallels between it and Greek mythology too. 

 

 

[Theminecraftaddict555]

7 hours ago, Canada EH said:

It helped you get on the right path, did you read those links at all?

Yeah didn't see that sorry

 

" Anarchists have been active in Ireland as far back as 1886, but these were short-lived groups or isolated individuals with large gaps between activity." Weird when i have other sources state that they have lasted for 1000 years or so. Unless they were just isolated tribes back then before the invasion by britain

[Theminecraftaddict555]

5 hours ago, mr moose said:

I thought (haven't fact checked though) that ancient Irish rule was similar to the druids in wales and the pagan style religious culture and followed a more localised societal authority.  

 

 

I believe that the irish anarchist rule pretty much consisted a bunch of tribes right? Not crowded people living close to each other in the cities like in the UK during the time?

[mr moose]

6 hours ago, Theminecraftaddict555 said:

I believe that the irish anarchist rule pretty much consisted a bunch of tribes right? Not crowded people living close to each other in the cities like in the UK during the time?

That's my understanding.  There are texts that form the foundations of studies that indicate they may have had smaller tribes with an elected authority.  One person who acted as law maker and judge for the community.  But that would have been within the realms of pagan religion much like the early courts of the UK where influenced by the early church. 

 

I guess the most fascinating question is was it more brutal or more peaceful.    To be quite honest I don't think we will ever know, the archeology ans a few texts is all we have from pre-christian era.  Suffice to say it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume given the rest of the UK was quite brutal that it wouldn't have been different in at least specific circumstances.