Compilation of Ryzen APU reviews

[ApolloFury]

44 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

I just realized there's one other aspect to the AMD Ecosystem not mentioned in all of this yet: FreeSync. That's going to be interesting to see play out over time. (It's also sad that a good, 75 Hz, 27 inch 1080p FreeSync monitor is cheaper than 16 Gb of DDR3000 RAM right now.)

I forgot where I read it from (maybe from VideoCardz?) but I think FreeSync is not supported for now, hope I'm wrong though.

[mynameisjuan]

42 minutes ago, michaelocarroll007 said:

Yeah in your opinion. I Have a GTX 1080 But that doesn't mean there is not a market of people who buy pcs to play Lol Over watch CS GO Rainbow 6. Thoese and many other games will run on this. and play the occasional Harder to run title at really low settings for the 1 or 2 of them they try out.  There is a market here its just not us. 

Yes, CSGO and overwatch will play just fine on it, but what about in a few months when a new game is released and all of a sudden they get 10fps? Or what if it does meet minimum requirement and doesnt run at all? Then they have to fork up money again and if they budget it again, the cycle repeats. Where is a 1060 is bought now, they would be set for a while @1080p. 

 

51 minutes ago, Hidden Orange said:

The PC could be multi-functional for a family. Parents use it for whatever parents do and the kid(s) can game on it along with doing homework or whatever. Assuming the price of the PC is about $500, then that might be cheaper than buying an office PC and a console or whatever for the kid(s). With PC games being fairly cheap at times, that could also help.

 

That said, it depends on the circumstances of the buyer. Something like this could still be out of reach in certain areas and for certain people. Or something else like not many people would want to share a single PC.

Again I have no issue about budget machines when its needed say for work or school (which the parents might need). 

 

To all, im bashing budget gaming because it really makes no sense as in the long run you SPEND MORE!! Where if just a little more money was spent up front it would last longer and be cheaper with benefits of a better experience. But people like to live in the now. 

[mrthuvi]

Experience is relative and subjective.

If you have experienced 120hz monitors, it will be difficult to go back to 60hz. If you know how smooth 60+ fps gaming feel, it will be difficult to go back to 30-40fps. I would be someone willing to sacrifice some visual beauty to get more fps.

 

However, the same me, 15 years ago with his first own computer with onboard intel graphic was willing to do all kind of tweaking to play unsupported games at sub 30fps.

 

How we feel toward certain things is relative to our experience prior to that. These cpus could be unplayable for some people but they have their own place in the market. 

[michaelocarroll007]

32 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

Yes, CSGO and overwatch will play just fine on it, but what about in a few months when a new game is released and all of a sudden they get 10fps? Or what if it does meet minimum requirement and doesnt run at all? Then they have to fork up money again and if they budget it again, the cycle repeats. Where is a 1060 is bought now, they would be set for a while @1080p. 

 

Again I have no issue about budget machines when its needed say for work or school (which the parents might need). 

 

To all, im bashing budget gaming because it really makes no sense as in the long run you SPEND MORE!! Where if just a little more money was spent up front it would last longer and be cheaper with benefits of a better experience. But people like to live in the now. 

Your not understanding so many people dont game hard core like You or I. They are fine with just overwatch and LOL and the few other Popular tittles. There is a BIG market of people who dont play anything else but 1 or 2 light popular titles on PC.  They are not really spending more by getting this cheap now and then If they like PC gaming in a year or 2 get what ever GPU they want. The CPU side of it Still Good. and maybe they play Games for 2 years then Upgrade theyll be getting a chip that doesnt even exist yet today which would make it not a waste at all.

 

You dont know if its going to be wastefull some might build this with the goal in mind. 

[Orangeator]

I think I will stay content with my Ryzen 1600 and GTX 980 TI build. I don't see it becoming obsolete anytime soon.

[Taf the Ghost]

46 minutes ago, ApolloFury said:

I forgot where I read it from (maybe from VideoCardz?) but I think FreeSync is not supported for now, hope I'm wrong though.

I believe that's from a lack of HDMI 2.0 on pretty much all 300-series boards. 400 series will be different, maybe? As @Dissitesuxba11s mentioned, you'd need DisplayPort to run it right now. That might be why AMD wasn't emphasizing it. Wait for the full Ryzen 2000 series launch and 400-series boards.

 

Edit: Actually, on some further thought, that's probably exactly why it isn't brought up much. Those new motherboards are 2 months away, so there's no reason to cross-promote that aspect.

[Morgan Everett]

2 hours ago, Energycore said:

That's such an elitist point of view "You shouldn't spend on entertainment if you don't have X amount of disposable income". Everyone has a right to spend their money the way they want, and a need for entertainment, from the bottom to the top of the stack.

It's also a point of view that conflates a budget with an ability to pay. My budget for a GPU was recently £400; but I could have bought a Titan Xp, if I'd wanted to. It's strange how often people confuse these pretty different things.

[Nicnac]

I know it was stupid to expect that but I was secretly hoping for rx470/570 performance after we saw that intel/amd chip 

[Trixanity]

1 hour ago, mynameisjuan said:

Yes, CSGO and overwatch will play just fine on it, but what about in a few months when a new game is released and all of a sudden they get 10fps? Or what if it does meet minimum requirement and doesnt run at all? Then they have to fork up money again and if they budget it again, the cycle repeats. Where is a 1060 is bought now, they would be set for a while @1080p. 

 

Again I have no issue about budget machines when its needed say for work or school (which the parents might need). 

 

To all, im bashing budget gaming because it really makes no sense as in the long run you SPEND MORE!! Where if just a little more money was spent up front it would last longer and be cheaper with benefits of a better experience. But people like to live in the now. 

You don't spend more if you don't want to. You can game on the APU just fine if you can settle for less which most in that price range can (and you can add a dedicated card later. It's still a good CPU in its own right). I've played plenty of MMOs in my time at 15-30 fps. It's serviceable. Not all games are equally fps sensitive. You can do a lot of tweaking. Hell, I recall playing Oblivion on a shitty graphics card (I think it may have been on the FX5200 aka the worst card of all time) before I got a X1900XTX. Lower the resolution, set every slider as low as it can go and if need be go tweak the .ini file. It's about playing the game, not the eye candy. Eye candy is a bonus and a luxury.

You can get 60 fps with the APU if you need it to (disclaimer: not in all games but probably most and probably in all esports titles).

[JoeCoke]

2 hours ago, mynameisjuan said:

Budgets are in place for a reason no matter what you buy and is usually priced around bills and COL. A low income purchasing a cheap PC because its cheaper than the library or cheaper to have a PC and internet than smart phones is not even close to this article about budget APUs and gaming. Thats talking about actual work which is more justified than playing minecraft. 

 

My mind is not closed, I just see that if you have a budget because how little money someone makes, spending on a cheap gaming PC is not the smartest thing to do. And if they are really on a tight budgets and NEED a pc, you know for actual work, you can pick up cheaper parts. 

These APUs are a great investment. You can plop a dGPU on them later when you have the money and you have a very competent CPU. It's a smart buy. You haven't lost any money, because Ryzen 4/8s and 4/4s are the same prices as these APUs and they're good CPUs.

[Zando_]

56 minutes ago, Orangeator said:

I think I will stay content with my Ryzen 1600 and GTX 980 TI build. I don't see it becoming obsolete anytime soon.

Truth. I have a Xeon X5675 (overclocked it's about the same as an R5 1600) and 980 Ti, I can still max every game I have, and ones like battlefront I run at about 70 fps even with 150% render scale on a 1080p ultrawide. That combo still has a lot of life left in it. 

[Orangeator]

7 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Truth. I have a Xeon X5675 (overclocked it's about the same as an R5 1600) and 980 Ti, I can still max every game I have, and ones like battlefront I run at about 70 fps even with 150% render scale on a 1080p ultrawide. That combo still has a lot of life left in it. 

I use it to play at 4k, and it runs it like a champ. I even play PUBG locked at 60, mix between medium and high settings. I see no reason to upgrade at the current moment in time.

[mynameisjuan]

1 minute ago, 2Buck said:

These APUs are a great investment. You can plop a dGPU on them later when you have the money and you have a very competent CPU. It's a smart buy. You haven't lost any money, because Ryzen 4/8s and 4/4s are the same prices as these APUs and they're good CPUs.

The 2400g definitely kills the 1400 on the spot as its the same price but performs better CPU wise as well. I am saying you can lose money because the 2400g might be good but if a 1600 was bought from the start you'd have more cores, more PCI lanes and for another ~150ish could get a 1050ti that will last you longer and would of been probably what a budget person would be buying anyway. 

[pas008]

1 minute ago, mynameisjuan said:

The 2400g definitely kills the 1400 on the spot as its the same price but performs better CPU wise as well. I am saying you can lose money because the 2400g might be good but if a 1600 was bought from the start you'd have more cores, more PCI lanes and for another ~150ish could get a 1050ti that will last you longer and would of been probably what a budget person would be buying anyway. 

lol you dont understand budget dont you

spend more spend more

lol

my brother wants new pc for cs/cz/dod thats it

this allows it to be done w/o addition gpu

 

wow

[mynameisjuan]

2 minutes ago, pas008 said:

lol you dont understand budget dont you

spend more spend more

lol

my brother wants new pc for cs/cz/dod thats it

this allows it to be done w/o addition gpu

 

wow

Seriously did you read the comment I quoted where he mentioned buying a dGPU later on. My proposition doesnt cost anymore to the final project but has better performance. You also realize sentences are not ended with the enter key right?

[pas008]

Just now, mynameisjuan said:

Seriously did you read the comment I quoted where he mentioned buying a dGPU later on. My proposition doesnt cost anymore to the final project but has better performance. You also realize sentences are not ended with the enter key right?

for starters adding something 2 yrs down the road still had initial budget

and for your ending shit

 

[kiska3]

42 minutes ago, Nicnac said:

I know it was stupid to expect that but I was secretly hoping for rx470/570 performance after we saw that intel/amd chip 

But you have to remember that intel/amd hybrid has (almost)double the CUs of Vega 11 so it was highly unlikely besides the memory bandwidth is heavily constrained here maybe if they add 2GB of HBM it may be better utilised. The problem with APUs is the iGPU portion is always underutilised

[SpaceGhostC2C]

4 hours ago, Misanthrope said:

Well gamers, you better get these before assholes start somehow mining on them too!

 

J/K I doubt they'll be able to source an effective farm with tons of mobos.

I don't know whether it would be funny, sad, or both if the first project to successfully leverage the HSA idea was mining  

[mynameisjuan]

5 minutes ago, pas008 said:

for starters adding something 2 yrs down the road still had initial budget

and for your ending shit

Honestly have no effin clue what the hell you're talking about now nor how asking for periods instead is admitting defeat. 

[pas008]

13 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

Honestly have no effin clue what the hell you're talking about now nor how asking for periods instead is admitting defeat. 

lol you understood it

hence your comment

You also realize sentences are not ended with the enter key right

 

so it fits hahaha

 

have a nice day

 

oh wait Ill leave a link up for the word budget

 

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/budget

 

[mynameisjuan]

9 minutes ago, pas008 said:

lol you understood it, hence your comment. You also realize sentences are not ended with the enter key right, so it fits hahaha

have a nice day. oh wait Ill leave a link up for the word budget

 

 

FTFY.

 

Also you still did not read the comment I quoted and about buying a GPU. But no you still refer to not read anything on this forum. 

53 minutes ago, 2Buck said:

These APUs are a great investment. You can plop a dGPU on them later when you have the money and you have a very competent CPU. It's a smart buy. You haven't lost any money, because Ryzen 4/8s and 4/4s are the same prices as these APUs and they're good CPUs.

Nothing to do with the original budget. Please stop this nonsense and pointless arguments. 

[raphidy]

I never understood budget builds. I would either buy console, buy used, buy some random refurb dell or lenovo and slap a cheap dgpu.

Would make a good htpc though.

 

I don't mind AMD skimming on the solder and used thermal paste this time. Cutting the pcie lanes by half is really meh. I hope you can enable 16x if you disable the igpu. I find very interesting how they design apu vs cpu + ccx.

[pas008]

8 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

FTFY.

 

Also you still did not read the comment I quoted and about buying a GPU. But no you still refer to not read anything on this forum. 

Nothing to do with the original budget. Please stop this nonsense and pointless arguments. 

initial budget to get a pc

later you add another budget to upgrade something irrelevant considering no one knows what the future holds

not everyone will fork out hundreds right away for something their kids/spouse/etc might drop in weeks

 

have nice day no need to get mad about budget builds

 

 

[Nicnac]

28 minutes ago, raphidy said:

I never understood budget builds. I would either buy console, buy used, buy some random refurb dell or lenovo and slap a cheap dgpu.

Would make a good htpc though.

 

I don't mind AMD skimming on the solder and used thermal paste this time. Cutting the pcie lanes by half is really meh. I hope you can enable 16x if you disable the igpu. I find very interesting how they design apu vs cpu + ccx.

x8 pcie speed has shown to make no difference in games even if paird with a 1080ti.

Only scientific computing/ programming could saturate all those lanes and I doubt you'll be getting this chip for it.

But I feel ya, it's kind of a pain to know you only have x8

[raphidy]

3 minutes ago, Nicnac said:

x8 pcie speed has shown to make no difference in games even if paird with a 1080ti.

Only scientific computing/ programming could saturate all those lanes and I doubt you'll be getting this chip for it.

But I feel ya, it's kind of a pain to know you only have x8

I did not mean 8x for graphics, I meant total, this means you can't really use aic, crossfire?, sound card etc. Which meh for future upgrades.