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6 hours ago, Nicnac said:

This will especially be interesting for you net-neutrality affected US citizens ^^

 

 

I'm more interested to see how this will effect NK and China.  Granted might not change a thing there but who knows.

 

 

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5 hours ago, BuckGup said:

There aren't any local monopolies there

Maybe not technical monopolies but there are plenty of monopolies setup through cross company agreements where the major telecom companies agree on where they will provide service. 

Example I live in the Hudson valley and on the West Bank of the Hudson we have purely spectrum and the east side is fios/Comcast. Though not a technical monopoly I only have one option for internet. 

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2 hours ago, sazrocks said:

I mean, 75 GHz should be enough.

According to wikipedia they will be operating in the Ka- band (26.5 to 40 GHz).  That's more than I thought it would be.

 

Combined with the massive number of satellites planned, the connection shouldn't be that bad, but it also sounds way too ambitions to be true... Not that that's stopped Musk in the past!

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23 minutes ago, Blasteque said:

According to wikipedia they will be operating in the Ka- band (26.5 to 40 GHz).  That's more than I thought it would be.

 

Combined with the massive number of satellites planned, the connection shouldn't be that bad, but it also sounds way too ambitions to be true... Not that that's stopped Musk in the past!

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43 minutes ago, Blasteque said:

According to wikipedia they will be operating in the Ka- band (26.5 to 40 GHz).  That's more than I thought it would be.

 

Combined with the massive number of satellites planned, the connection shouldn't be that bad, but it also sounds way too ambitions to be true... Not that that's stopped Musk in the past!

Dang I was tired last night when I read the Wikipedia page. You’re right; the page says >24GHz.

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This could also prove useful for people with extremely slow internet in some countries where it is deemed too costly for the ISP to expand into non-urban areas as they wouldn't make enough revenue from it.. or so they say. I actually have a nice speed, but in some surrounding villages/towns the speed is abysmal, and the 4g coverage isn't much better in terms of coverage/speed, so they don't have any good options ATM. Hopefully this will solve a few of the infrastructure problems in many places and at least get some people online and able to access resources and much needed basic things that we all take for granted now.. even stuff like access to their utility bills and such, that you have to pay extra to have a paper bill sent out nowadays and internet banking. Of course it will be even more useful for under-developed countries for school resources and such, which I think we all can agree on is the right move, and well done to space-x for this amazing idea.

Here's hoping it will spur a growth in that area, and one day we may only need a few land nodes to provide the backbone, with much of it then satellite/air based for the delivery.

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10 hours ago, Nicnac said:

This will especially be interesting for you net-neutrality affected US citizens ^^

Literally zero difference with or without net neutrality as far as I can tell

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10 hours ago, LordTaco42 said:

I'm more interested to see how this will effect NK and China.  Granted might not change a thing there but who knows.

I can see China benefiting from this as people have access the internet even if it’s restricted by their Great Firewall but definitely not North Korea. In NK, only the supreme leader and a very few people close to the Kim family have access to the real internet. Internet in NK is just intranet which they call “Kwangmyong” and it’s only accessible by the privileged people living in Pyongyang. Majority of the people working in labor camps or rural areas don’t even know what internet is. 

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17 hours ago, hey_yo_ said:

Satellite internet = high latency 

 

But if it means better internet access for low income people in rural areas and third world countries without fiber optic coverage then why not?

Chances are the low income families and the third world couldn't afford a device to use it.

 

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2 hours ago, vorticalbox said:

Chances are the low income families and the third world couldn't afford a device to use it.

 

Many can’t afford it but the likes of USAID, UN, and other private charity organizations (e.g. Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation) fund them for free. I wouldn’t be surprised if Elon Musk do something similar which is very useful for K-12 education in many poor places. But in some rural areas like the mountainous towns and remote coastal areas where laying out fiber optic cables can be expensive, satellite internet will serve them just fine. 

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19 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Actually the ping with these are super low. He quoted 60-100ms added latency.

Thats my ping for ADSL2+ :S and not to anywhere special either >:(

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obviously ol Musky needs a secure communication system to contact his minions during the takeover. 

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On 2/12/2018 at 8:22 AM, sazrocks said:

Actually since these are at a lower altitude I wonder if we will see more reasonable ping times. If they can limit the number of hops then I would guess 100-200ms ping times are possible.

The constellation is planned for LEO and iirc should include around 2400 satellites. The very low altitude compared to geosync and the number of satellites means that 50-65ms ping should be very possible especially with whatever advancements may come in the next few years as the system is brought online.

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On 2/12/2018 at 8:35 AM, BuckGup said:

There aren't any local monopolies there

*Yet

 

 

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On 2/13/2018 at 12:16 AM, hey_yo_ said:

But if it means better internet access for low income people in rural areas and third world countries without fiber optic coverage then why not?

Can you hear that sound? Its Aussies rejoicing lol 

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On 2/12/2018 at 1:22 PM, LittleRedRose said:

Maybe not technical monopolies but there are plenty of monopolies setup through cross company agreements where the major telecom companies agree on where they will provide service. 

Example I live in the Hudson valley and on the West Bank of the Hudson we have purely spectrum and the east side is fios/Comcast. Though not a technical monopoly I only have one option for internet. 

They mean no monopolies in space. It is supposed to be a joke about how isps are a monopoly now.

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4 hours ago, Newenthusiast said:

Can you hear that sound? Its Aussies rejoicing lol 

I don't think Australia is in any means poor or a third world country to need that kind of satellite internet though I think New Zealand's internet is way faster than Australia's as per Speedtest's Global Index (January 2018) for fixed broadband. http://www.speedtest.net/global-index

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Though Australia's 4G is faster than NZ's.

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7 hours ago, hey_yo_ said:

I don't think Australia is in any means poor or a third world country to need that kind of satellite internet though I think New Zealand's internet is way faster than Australia's as per Speedtest's Global Index (January 2018) for fixed broadband

A lot of rural (and some suburban) Australia are dealing with terrible speeds and limited options, having another option on the table will have a good impact on the landscape.  It sucks to live just minutes from a city center and not be able to download anything faster than 500kbps, sometimes i cant even watch a 1920x1080 YouTube clip without it stalling and turning itself down to 720p lol 

 

4G speeds are great but if the plans are outrageously expensive they arent really an option. $45 a month for 30 GB is insane. 

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the video was unlisted it looks like, so if you don't want to go to there website here you go.

 

 

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