Nvidia Rumour: GTX 2080 & 2070 using Ampere (GA104) and will launch in April, GP102 is EOL

[DocSwag]

I might seriously consider getting one of these. Always wanted amd because I have a freesync monitor but tbh they've been pretty poop and one of these guys probably can push above 2560x1080 75 hz.

 

Maybe it's time to get a 1440p 165 hz or 1440p ultrawide 100 hz g sync panel.

[Master Disaster]

1 minute ago, DildorTheDecent said:

Ampere is probably similar to Volta but with the Tensor cores removed. Would let them make the die smaller.

 

The 2080 Ti and 2080 might ship with GDDR6 in place of GDDR5X that was on the 1080 Ti and 1080.

 

This little graph shows theoretical perf: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12338/samsung-starts-mass-production-of-gddr6-memory

  Assuming of course nvidia are going to allow it to operate at 18Gb/s. They might aim for lower, maybe around 16Gb/s then increase later.

 

Of course I'm just speculating.

You think Nvidia still won't pair HBM 2 with GA102 for the consumer market?

 

[iiNNeX]

5 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

If GPU prices normalize and Ram starts coming down I'll probably postpone springs and struts and LSD for a custom watercooled loop, as right now I dont have the funds for both  

From someone who is a car guy and has an E46 M3 project car and "HAD" a custom water loop pc.... go for the car parts lol. The custom loop is cool but it really doesn't bring much gain unless you want it for the cool looks aspect.

[TVwazhere]

13 minutes ago, NinJake said:

LSD would make me jelly. You gonna RGB your intercooler too? haha just kidding. I know you are like the case master but if I decided to just build a new system I might end up going with a nicer glass case with some water cooling as well but idk... might just get a new GPU for now.

 

(Now that I think of it, my ST3 has "rgb" in it lol...)

Sometimes I think about adding lights to the footwells, but it's not worth it since I'm usually the only person in my car.

 

Dont get me started on what case I want. At this point if I had to pick right now it would probably be the Define R6, only because the H700i is too expensive and I'd be wasting the $50 extra on a feature I'd literally throw away. This is all assuming of curse course* GPU prices are decent and Ram is somewhat affordable.

[TVwazhere]

Just now, iiNNeX said:

From someone who is a car guy and has an E46 M3 project car and "HAD" a custom water loop pc.... go for the car parts lol. The custom loop is cool but it really doesn't bring much gain unless you want it for the cool looks aspect.

The 2016 ST isnt showing it's age nearly as much as my 3+ year old gaming rig is, considering I like playing at 144hz when I can and right now in new games Im getting about 60 on medium. And it's definitely for the aesthetic. In my friends circle three years ago I had the best PC hands down, now everyone has built their own PC, the most recent was an R7 1800x/GTX1060 gaming/workstation PC... I cannot allow myself to be bested!  

[elago]

The GA104. Gamers don't even get their second biggest chip in the x80 card, and they can save the GA102 for the x80ti. That's how far ahead of AMD they are that they can sell mid range chips at high end prices.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

49 minutes ago, Abdul201588 said:

If the rumors are true, please make sure they can't be used for mining! 

 

 

EDIT: ALL GPUs make sure they can't be used for mining!

On the contrary: please, double the mining performance of Pascal, and adjust its price (to AIB partners) appropriately.

After all, as Nvidia said, we don't need more than Pascal for gaming. But we could use lower Pascal prices.

 

39 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

Bitcoin/ETH loses it's value and BOOM, Ampere news. Coincidence? 

It should be coincidence, unless you are suggesting Nvidia's marketing sucks at timing  

[suicidalfranco]

Should I sell my oldest miners to buy these?

[michaelocarroll007]

10 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

If GPU prices normalize and Ram starts coming down I'll probably postpone springs and struts and LSD for a custom watercooled loop, as right now I dont have the funds for both  

What Car do you have?

7 minutes ago, NinJake said:

LSD would make me jelly. You gonna RGB your intercooler too? haha just kidding. I know you are like the case master but if I decided to just build a new system I might end up going with a nicer glass case with some water cooling as well but idk... might just get a new GPU for now.

 

(Now that I think of it, my ST3 has "rgb" in it lol...)

I almost pulled the Trigger when i was buying a car on a focus ST 3 (If thats what your talking about) I decided to go WRX though

[NinJake]

5 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

assuming of curse

Curse these GPU Prices! But that Define R6 definitely looks like it wants a 2080Ti sat inside it

 

I also reallllly want to try building a ryzen rig but can't quite justify it....yet.

[TVwazhere]

1 minute ago, michaelocarroll007 said:

What Car do you have?

I almost pulled the Trigger when i was buying a car on a focus ST 3 (If thats what your talking about) I decided to go WRX though

2016 Focus ST, Same as @NinJake

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mynameisjuan]

Well the 2080 is probably going to be priced at $2k if GPU price dont start dropping now. 

 

But as a side not why is there more car talk here than GPU talk?

[Brooksie359]

23 minutes ago, NinJake said:

"It's the beST card yet!" @TVwazhere

 

I am very much ready for the 1180Ti/2080Ti! (Tax returns woooot)

The ti version likely won't be out anytime soon. The 1080ti was released well after the 1080 and 1070.

[TVwazhere]

3 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

Well the 2080 is probably going to be priced at $2k if GPU price dont start dropping now. 

 

But as a side not why is there more car talk here than GPU talk?

Because both are expensive hobbies and usually we can only choose one :'( 

[NelizMastr]

I'd almost go camping in front of a store to get a better GPU. Not that the GTX1060 6GB is bad, but I've wanted a 1070 for months and no way am I paying €450+ for an ex-miner card.

[Blackyk]

25 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

If GPU prices normalize and Ram starts coming down I'll probably postpone springs and struts and LSD for a custom watercooled loop, as right now I dont have the funds for both  

It sure is tough when you have 2 money-pit hobbies lol.

[Bananasplit_00]

1 hour ago, Master Disaster said:

sometime in the beginning of November last month.

since when is November in January?  

[NinJake]

4 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

The ti version likely won't be out anytime soon. The 1080ti was released well after the 1080 and 1070.

I'm aware of this. Gives me more time to save up money anyways.

[DildorTheDecent]

1 minute ago, Master Disaster said:

You think Nvidia still won't pair HBM 2 with GA102 for the consumer market?

 

I imagine they'll skip HBM 2. Given that it's more expensive to implement and even with Titan V and all sorts of other cards using it that have a "limited" market the yield probably aren't as great as what GDDR6 will have.

 

It will probably have something to do with the memory controller as well. The consumer cards are probably going to stay on the GDDR path for the time being. Even though GDDR5X and GDDR6 aren't pin compatible, the change should easy enough.

 

I don't think people are pushing the resolutions and details in games to warrant HBM 2 just yet. The GTX 1080/1080 Ti/ Titan Xp can do a rather good job at 4K. GDDR6 might finally let us do 4k 144Hz. Anything beyond would require the additional bandwidth that HBM 2 gives I imagine. I could see 5K - 8K gaming or multi-monitor 4K setups needing HBM 2. There's people like that out there.

 

In short I'd be surprised that nvidia chooses HBM 2 for the consumers this time around. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

[r3loAded]

37 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

All you need is GT, STI, or Type R and you got yourself a sucsessful car GPU launch

nah, you need a spaceX

[Morgan Everett]

10 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

I'd almost go camping in front of a store to get a better GPU. Not that the GTX1060 6GB is bad, but I've wanted a 1070 for months and no way am I paying €450+ for an ex-miner card.

Why so keen for a 1070 when you already have a 1060?

[ItsMitch]

Can't wait for these cards to be sold out in a day, stock won't be done for weeks and the prices to be gouged like hell

[DildorTheDecent]

45 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

I might seriously consider getting one of these. Always wanted amd because I have a freesync monitor but tbh they've been pretty poop and one of these guys probably can push above 2560x1080 75 hz.

 

Maybe it's time to get a 1440p 165 hz or 1440p ultrawide 100 hz g sync panel.

Those resolutions have already been and done by the GTX 980Ti/GTX 1070.

 

GTX 1080/1080 Ti if you want to push graphical settings.

 

Ampere is probably for 4K.

 

I'd recommend the 1440p UW. They're top tier.

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 hour ago, Abdul201588 said:

ALL GPUs make sure they can't be used for mining!

Game on Kepler-based cards, miners can't use those.

[Taf the Ghost]

1 hour ago, Master Disaster said:

I find it interesting they'd stop making GP102s before they have a GA102 to replace it with.

 

Wouldn't that mean that 1080ti stock might dry up while they only have a 2080 on the shelves to replace it with?

I'd assume the professional card, not the gaming side, isn't as popular as they thought. The Titan V replaces a bunch of its utility. The X80 Ti parts aren't big sellers, even if they're in every benchmark. With Volta, the designs are splitting even further for Nvidia, as their professional cards are getting very different core structures going forward. The "2080" should be faster anyway.