Jump to content

Upgrade to Pentium G4560+B250M-DS3H+8GB DDR4 worth it?

So after a good while thinking about it, i've decided that upgrading my cpu (i3 2120) to an i7 2600 and keeping my existing platform (b75m-d3h with 8gb of ddr3 ram on dual channel) wasn't really a good idea considering i've had this pc for about 5 or 6 years and the motherboard is starting to fail me, so i've decided to upgrade the 3 components, while keeping my gtx 750ti. As the title says, i plan to buy a pentium g4560, a gigabyte ga-b250m-ds3h and 2x4gb crucial ballistix sport ddr4 ram @ 2400mhz. How much performance can i expect from this new setup? (gpu is a 750ti in case you missed it). Is it a big improvement over my existing i3 2120 with 8gb of ddr3 for gaming? Just an fyi or """fun""" fact: I'm paying $320 for the 3 components and that's literally the cheapest i could find them in my country.

CPU: Core i3 8100 @ 3,6GHz 

GPU: Zotac GeForce GTX 750ti 2GB 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B360M-DS3H

RAM: 8GB DDR4 Crucial Ballistix Sport @ 2400mHz

Storage: 2TB WD 7200RPM HDD, 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM HDD

Case: Deepcool Dukase V3

PSU: Corsair CX450

Keyboard: Cougar Core

Mouse: Logitech G502

Headset: HyperX Cloud Stinger

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

No, a used motherboard and 2600 would be better

PSU Nerd | PC Parts Flipper | Cable Management Guru

Helpful Links: PSU Tier List | Why not group reg? | Avoid the EVGA G3

Helios EVO (Main Desktop) Intel Core™ i9-10900KF | 32GB DDR4-3000 | GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS ELITE | GeForce RTX 3060 Ti | NZXT H510 | EVGA G5 650W

 

Delta (Laptop) | Galaxy S21 Ultra | Pacific Spirit XT (Server)

Full Specs

Spoiler

 

Helios EVO (Main):

Intel Core™ i9-10900KF | 32GB G.Skill Ripjaws V / Team T-Force DDR4-3000 | GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS ELITE | MSI GAMING X GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB GPU | NZXT H510 | EVGA G5 650W | MasterLiquid ML240L | 2x 2TB HDD | 256GB SX6000 Pro SSD | 3x Corsair SP120 RGB | Fractal Design Venturi HF-14

 

Pacific Spirit XT - Server

Intel Core™ i7-8700K (Won at LTX, signed by Dennis) | GIGABYTE Z370 AORUS GAMING 5 | 16GB Team Vulcan DDR4-3000 | Intel UrfpsgonHD 630 | Define C TG | Corsair CX450M

 

Delta - Laptop

ASUS TUF Dash F15 - Intel Core™ i7-11370H | 16GB DDR4 | RTX 3060 | 500GB NVMe SSD | 200W Brick | 65W USB-PD Charger

 


 

Intel is bringing DDR4 to the mainstream with the Intel® Core™ i5 6600K and i7 6700K processors. Learn more by clicking the link in the description below.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, JDE said:

No, a used motherboard and 2600 would be better

Yes, i know that.

Unfortunately, as i said, my motherboard recently started showing signs of imminent death, so i'm kind of set on this upgrade as it's all i can manage to get within my budget and even used, older platforms are just as expensive as new ones, sometimes more. I just wanted to know how good of an upgrade it was, and how well it would perform.

CPU: Core i3 8100 @ 3,6GHz 

GPU: Zotac GeForce GTX 750ti 2GB 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B360M-DS3H

RAM: 8GB DDR4 Crucial Ballistix Sport @ 2400mHz

Storage: 2TB WD 7200RPM HDD, 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM HDD

Case: Deepcool Dukase V3

PSU: Corsair CX450

Keyboard: Cougar Core

Mouse: Logitech G502

Headset: HyperX Cloud Stinger

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Like @JDE suggested, it would be better right now to replace the mobo and get the i7. The upgrade to the g4560 wouldn't be much and ram is commonly going for twice the older average MSRP.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Just now, tjcater said:

Like @JDE suggested, it would be better right now to replace the mobo and get the i7. The upgrade to the g4560 wouldn't be much and ram is commonly going for twice the older average MSRP.

Used b75m are selling for $100 here, which is the same the b250m costs, and the newer platform gives me a way better upgrade path later on.

CPU: Core i3 8100 @ 3,6GHz 

GPU: Zotac GeForce GTX 750ti 2GB 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B360M-DS3H

RAM: 8GB DDR4 Crucial Ballistix Sport @ 2400mHz

Storage: 2TB WD 7200RPM HDD, 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM HDD

Case: Deepcool Dukase V3

PSU: Corsair CX450

Keyboard: Cougar Core

Mouse: Logitech G502

Headset: HyperX Cloud Stinger

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

14 minutes ago, Askingcarpet said:

Used b75m are selling for $100 here, which is the same the b250m costs, and the newer platform gives me a way better upgrade path later on.

If you plan to upgrade then it may be worth it, but the g4560 will be a minor upgrade over your current processor and you will still be limited to a 4c/8t processor after upgrades anyways. Even with an upgrade to an i7 7700(k) it would at most be clocked ~25% higher than an i7 2600 and only with marginal architecture improvements. If the significant difference in price for at most ~50% (Guesstimate based on architecture improvements and clock speed) then go for it. IMO I think an OCable board using DDR3 and an i7 would be more worth it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

I'd get an r3 1200 instead.

Want to custom loop?  Ask me more if you are curious

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, tjcater said:

If you plan to upgrade then it may be worth it, but the g4560 will be a minor upgrade over your current processor and you will still be limited to a 4c/8t processor after upgrades anyways. Even with an upgrade to an i7 7700(k) it would at most be clocked ~25% higher than an i7 2600 and only with marginal architecture improvements. If the significant difference in price for at most ~50% (Guesstimate based on architecture improvements and clock speed) then go for it. IMO I think an a OCable board using DDR3 and an i7 would be more worth it.

Yeah that makes sense. I'm still going with that tho, as i was planning to buy the 2600 from the us but the opportunity just isnt there anymore. Buying it here would cost me $200 USED which is insane. Also my ram is too showing signs of going south soon, which means i couldn't keep it if i chose to keep using that platform (at least not for long)

CPU: Core i3 8100 @ 3,6GHz 

GPU: Zotac GeForce GTX 750ti 2GB 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B360M-DS3H

RAM: 8GB DDR4 Crucial Ballistix Sport @ 2400mHz

Storage: 2TB WD 7200RPM HDD, 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM HDD

Case: Deepcool Dukase V3

PSU: Corsair CX450

Keyboard: Cougar Core

Mouse: Logitech G502

Headset: HyperX Cloud Stinger

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Damascus said:

I'd get an r3 1200 instead.

i'd get one instead too but they're $170

CPU: Core i3 8100 @ 3,6GHz 

GPU: Zotac GeForce GTX 750ti 2GB 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B360M-DS3H

RAM: 8GB DDR4 Crucial Ballistix Sport @ 2400mHz

Storage: 2TB WD 7200RPM HDD, 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM HDD

Case: Deepcool Dukase V3

PSU: Corsair CX450

Keyboard: Cougar Core

Mouse: Logitech G502

Headset: HyperX Cloud Stinger

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Just now, Sat1600 said:

What about used optiplex. You can get an optiplex 9020 for under $200 on eBay. Are they available where you are? You could drop the 750 ti right in

 

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Optiplex-9020-Tower-PC-Intel-Core-i5-4570-3-20GHz-4GB-DDR3-RAM-250GB-HDD-/132456371316

All i'm gonna say is that regular amazon shipping here usually costs anything upwards of half of the product's price. Also, pretty much no individual seller ever ships here and we don't even have ebay

CPU: Core i3 8100 @ 3,6GHz 

GPU: Zotac GeForce GTX 750ti 2GB 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B360M-DS3H

RAM: 8GB DDR4 Crucial Ballistix Sport @ 2400mHz

Storage: 2TB WD 7200RPM HDD, 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM HDD

Case: Deepcool Dukase V3

PSU: Corsair CX450

Keyboard: Cougar Core

Mouse: Logitech G502

Headset: HyperX Cloud Stinger

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Sat1600 said:

Where are you

Uruguay unfortunately. Not the worst but definitely not the best country in south america

CPU: Core i3 8100 @ 3,6GHz 

GPU: Zotac GeForce GTX 750ti 2GB 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B360M-DS3H

RAM: 8GB DDR4 Crucial Ballistix Sport @ 2400mHz

Storage: 2TB WD 7200RPM HDD, 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM HDD

Case: Deepcool Dukase V3

PSU: Corsair CX450

Keyboard: Cougar Core

Mouse: Logitech G502

Headset: HyperX Cloud Stinger

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, Askingcarpet said:

i'd get one instead too but they're $170

Have you tried an ali express x79 + xeon + ram combo?  They are super cheap and ship internationally for free most if the time.

Want to custom loop?  Ask me more if you are curious

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

How about Haswell parts? H81/H87/B85 mobo should have sufficient supply and good prices. For the CPU, some decommissioned server parts, namely the Xeon E3 v3 line (hyperthreaded ones) should do well. You can reuse your DDR3 RAM as well.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

that would be an incredibly minor upgrade... i'm not sure you could even notice it.

Primary System

  • CPU
    Ryzen R6 5700X
  • Motherboard
    MSI B350M mortar arctic
  • RAM
    32GB Corsair RGB 3600MT/s CAS18
  • GPU
    Zotac RTX 3070 OC
  • Case
    kind of a mess
  • Storage
    WD black NVMe SSD 500GB & 1TB samsung Sata ssd & x 1TB WD blue & x 3TB Seagate
  • PSU
    corsair RM750X white
  • Display(s)
    1440p 21:9 100Hz
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Askingcarpet said:

So after a good while thinking about it, i've decided that upgrading my cpu (i3 2120) to an i7 2600 and keeping my existing platform (b75m-d3h with 8gb of ddr3 ram on dual channel) wasn't really a good idea considering i've had this pc for about 5 or 6 years and the motherboard is starting to fail me, so i've decided to upgrade the 3 components, while keeping my gtx 750ti. As the title says, i plan to buy a pentium g4560, a gigabyte ga-b250m-ds3h and 2x4gb crucial ballistix sport ddr4 ram @ 2400mhz. How much performance can i expect from this new setup? (gpu is a 750ti in case you missed it). Is it a big improvement over my existing i3 2120 with 8gb of ddr3 for gaming? Just an fyi or """fun""" fact: I'm paying $320 for the 3 components and that's literally the cheapest i could find them in my country.

Where are you buying parts? Is there a website or is it local

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

32 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

How about Haswell parts? H81/H87/B85 mobo should have sufficient supply and good prices. For the CPU, some decommissioned server parts, namely the Xeon E3 v3 line (hyperthreaded ones) should do well. You can reuse your DDR3 RAM as well.

4th gen motherboards are $100+ used and cpus are at least twice the price you'd find them on ebay

CPU: Core i3 8100 @ 3,6GHz 

GPU: Zotac GeForce GTX 750ti 2GB 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B360M-DS3H

RAM: 8GB DDR4 Crucial Ballistix Sport @ 2400mHz

Storage: 2TB WD 7200RPM HDD, 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM HDD

Case: Deepcool Dukase V3

PSU: Corsair CX450

Keyboard: Cougar Core

Mouse: Logitech G502

Headset: HyperX Cloud Stinger

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Sat1600 said:

Where are you buying parts? Is there a website or is it local

It's a retailer that has a webpage too, but as the store is actually 5 minutes from my house i just go and buy them to avoid shipping times and fees

CPU: Core i3 8100 @ 3,6GHz 

GPU: Zotac GeForce GTX 750ti 2GB 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B360M-DS3H

RAM: 8GB DDR4 Crucial Ballistix Sport @ 2400mHz

Storage: 2TB WD 7200RPM HDD, 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM HDD

Case: Deepcool Dukase V3

PSU: Corsair CX450

Keyboard: Cougar Core

Mouse: Logitech G502

Headset: HyperX Cloud Stinger

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

that would be an incredibly minor upgrade... i'm not sure you could even notice it.

Not really. If benchmarks are to be believed, the improvement is up to 2x in certain games. In most, it's about 30% or more, more so in minimum framerates. CPU usage with the same gpu i have is usually less than 100% with the g4560, whereas my i3 almost always becomes the limiting factor

CPU: Core i3 8100 @ 3,6GHz 

GPU: Zotac GeForce GTX 750ti 2GB 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B360M-DS3H

RAM: 8GB DDR4 Crucial Ballistix Sport @ 2400mHz

Storage: 2TB WD 7200RPM HDD, 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM HDD

Case: Deepcool Dukase V3

PSU: Corsair CX450

Keyboard: Cougar Core

Mouse: Logitech G502

Headset: HyperX Cloud Stinger

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, Damascus said:

That kinda makes sense, but there are a couple of problems here

1- AliExpress shipping can take over a month and sometimes they don't even arrive (it happened to me and my dad with some chargers but i blame our mediocre post service for that)

2- You literally can't get more than 4 items shipped to you per year (They even ask for your id number before buying something to control that) which means i'd already be down to 2 until 2019, so i couldn't buy other things that have their prices way more inflated (power supplies, graphics cards, storage, monitors, peripherals)

 

CPU: Core i3 8100 @ 3,6GHz 

GPU: Zotac GeForce GTX 750ti 2GB 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B360M-DS3H

RAM: 8GB DDR4 Crucial Ballistix Sport @ 2400mHz

Storage: 2TB WD 7200RPM HDD, 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM HDD

Case: Deepcool Dukase V3

PSU: Corsair CX450

Keyboard: Cougar Core

Mouse: Logitech G502

Headset: HyperX Cloud Stinger

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

10 hours ago, Askingcarpet said:

Not really. If benchmarks are to be believed, the improvement is up to 2x in certain games. In most, it's about 30% or more, more so in minimum framerates. CPU usage with the same gpu i have is usually less than 100% with the g4560, whereas my i3 almost always becomes the limiting factor

yeah sorry let me clarify. the clock speeds of your i3 are severely limiting, the G4560 is much better in that aspect (if you could overclock it would be an easy fix). but it's absolutely not worth the 300$? or so you'll have to pay for upgrading the platform (what is it? 80$ CPU 80$ mobo 100$RAM right?) when finding a used CPU (trust me it's not that hard) will be much cheaper and give you the same or likely much more performance gains. even if you have to change your motherboard for that too (as long as you keep RAM)

Primary System

  • CPU
    Ryzen R6 5700X
  • Motherboard
    MSI B350M mortar arctic
  • RAM
    32GB Corsair RGB 3600MT/s CAS18
  • GPU
    Zotac RTX 3070 OC
  • Case
    kind of a mess
  • Storage
    WD black NVMe SSD 500GB & 1TB samsung Sata ssd & x 1TB WD blue & x 3TB Seagate
  • PSU
    corsair RM750X white
  • Display(s)
    1440p 21:9 100Hz
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, Askingcarpet said:

2- You literally can't get more than 4 items shipped to you per year (They even ask for your id number before buying something to control that) which means i'd already be down to 2 until 2019, so i couldn't buy other things that have their prices way more inflated (power supplies, graphics cards, storage, monitors, peripherals)

That suuucks.  The g4560 is a decent upgrade, l would wait until your current stuff dies though

Want to custom loop?  Ask me more if you are curious

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×