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Final Fantasy XV Windows Edition Benchmark is a total mess and unrepresentative of the final product **Update with Square Enix's response**

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2 minutes ago, Derangel said:

While it was never officially confirmed I'd be willing to bet the same thing happened with FF7R.

Pretty sure that is confirmed now.

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5 minutes ago, Derangel said:

RTG has been such a cluster since it was formed that its no surprise that things have ground to a halt in terms of developer relations. I hope that once things settle down a bit over there they will resume programs that help developers.

Yeah, I have yet to get an answer back to all of my technical issues with AMD's Radeon ProRender, both in Maya, and in Blender. It's why I stopped using it and went back to Cycles.

 

I would definitely, definitely use NVIDIA Iray, if I had USD $299 to buy the plugin, simply because I would be able to get reliable technical support in a timely fashion.

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15 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

They do or did. Don't know what happened to their game development division and last title I can recall is Alien: Isolation. They need to step their game up if they want to make full use of Vega's (or whatever architecture they choose next) features. Nvidia's Gameworks division provides software and tech support to companies that will accept the sponsorship. This helps Nvidia maintain the best performance or visual quality that they can, something AMD used to do. 

Wasn't AMD's only assistance and no large toolset like GameWorks though? Side note that's how bad it is that I don't know lol.

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1 minute ago, leadeater said:

Wasn't AMD's only assistance and no large toolset like GameWorks though? Side note that's how bad it is that I don't know lol.

AMD had TressFX to counter Nvidia Hardworks, beyond that they relied on 3rd party open-source things for development. A lot of them (like GPGPU based Havok) fell apart.

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4 minutes ago, Derangel said:

AMD had TressFX to counter Nvidia Hardworks, beyond that they relied on 3rd party open-source things for development. A lot of them (like GPGPU based Havok) fell apart.

And everyone was like "Now that AMD owns consoles things are going to massively improve, RIP Nvidia"... :ph34r:. Who would have guessed consoles and PCs are different.

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6 minutes ago, Derangel said:

AMD had TressFX to counter Nvidia Hardworks, beyond that they relied on 3rd party open-source things for development. A lot of them (like GPGPU based Havok) fell apart.

Which is why I'm now questioning the reliability of open-source projects. They're great if developers are willing to put in the time, money, and effort to support them in the first place. And if it's headed by a big company like AMD, then they also have to contribute some of that time, money, and effort as well, and not shift the development burden onto others.


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7 hours ago, leadeater said:

Wasn't AMD's only assistance and no large toolset like GameWorks though? Side note that's how bad it is that I don't know lol.

I can’t even think of any AMD tech for the life of me aside from Tress FX. They need some great titles under their belt now that RTG is out and they need it quickly since Gameworks titles are increasing in frequency. I think they discontinued their plans for the raster or shading on Vega but they should have pushed it in games.

 

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7 hours ago, JurunceNK said:

Which is why I'm now questioning the reliability of open-source projects.

Open-source projects without some sort of financial stability aren’t viable. AMD needs to build relations if they want to not be the “less expensive option” as Lisa Su mentioned. A strong development kit and tech support costs money, but that’s an investment they should make. 


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2 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Open-source projects without some sort of financial stability aren’t viable. AMD needs to build relations if they want to not be the “less expensive option” as Lisa Su mentioned. A strong development kit and tech support costs money, but that’s an investment they should make. 

Exactly! If there is no technical support and a strong development, open-source or not, it would make people like me steer clear of those types of things because I don't want to put in all of my time fixing something that should have been fixed already when it was discovered in a timely fashion.

 

Sometimes, it's just a risk not worth taking, especially if money is on the line.


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I do have a lot of fate here. I've played both betas before it was released on PS4, and the game was a stutter fest, more so in the first one obviously. When the game was released it was a completely different animal. It may not be 60 FPS, or even close, but after dozens of hours on the PS4 Slim, I have encountered 2 times that frames dropped enough for me to call it stutter, and it was due to a shit ton of stuff it was happening, explosions, dozen enemies, elemancy, and so on. 

I do really hope that all parties do the part on their end. I reckon I'll buy it again for Steam. I think the game is awesome, and I haven't even finished it yet.

 

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42 minutes ago, JurunceNK said:

Exactly! If there is no technical support and a strong development, open-source or not, it would make people like me steer clear of those types of things because I don't want to put in all of my time fixing something that should have been fixed already when it was discovered in a timely fashion.

 

Sometimes, it's just a risk not worth taking, especially if money is on the line.

There was a good bit of support behind GPGPU based physics, especially Havok. However, Intel came along and bought Havok in order to use them for Larrabee. They planned to use GPGPU physics as a driving force for the card. When the project failed Intel killed all of Havok's ongoing development on it and skuttled the GPU based physics engine. MS bought them in 2015 and there's been nothing out of the company since. The last time the Havok engine was updated was in 2011.

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I'm glad the benchmark is just a crapshoot, that means my GTX 970 might have a chance at running it decently :D


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3 hours ago, JurunceNK said:

That's not a response I expected for a civil discussion.

 

NVIDIA isn't responsible for programming and optimizing the game, that's Square Enix's responsibility. NVIDIA provides the middleware, and the developers can tweak and optimize it as they see fit, as long as a) it doesn't hurt the performance on NVIDIA hardware, and b) the developer doesn't redistribute it.

do you remember the original tomb raider, it was an amd title that had tressFx, but because amd aren't dicks they did not prevent nvidea to optimize their hardware for it, and at the time it allowed me with a (now super slow) 660 to run the game with tressfx and have a playable experience, in most gameworks titles that isn't the case

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I ran that benchmark for giggles (no interest in the game what so ever) and my only conclusion was "This game looks bad, why bother making a benchmark from it?"

 

 


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5 hours ago, Shreyas1 said:

If you have read every single word of this post, you are a legend

 

edit: a tldr would be cool

TLDR: shit is fucked.

 

didnt they release a benchmark with ff14 reborn too?

no idea if it was any good because no reviewers actually used it much.

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This is such a storm in the cup of water, seriously... so the game is hard to max out it's graphical quality, it could have been better optimized? certainly but Ubisoft and such does this all the time meh it is part of the industry... just remember you're really not losing any thing by disabling gameworks features for more fps:

quit with the exaggerations and conspiracy theories, you can play the game on AMD just fine if you disable features that were never meant for it, nVidia invests money on helping develop the game and use gameworks, it is obviously they expect it to reward those rocking Pascal/Maxwell GPUs first.

 

You want to be able to use gameworks features fully? then stop buying AMD and whining and buy nVidia next time... seriously.... nowadays every one wants to blame every one and every thing.


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19 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

You want to be able to use gameworks features fully? then stop buying AMD and whining and buy nVidia next time... seriously.... nowadays every one wants to blame every one and every thing.

Yea no, you shouldn't have to be restricted to a single brand to get the best graphical experience. With all the time reduced having to optimize the game for Nvidia due to GameWorks that's more time you can spend on AMD... right.... HAH.

 

Jokes aside main point still stands, arbitrary restrictions to a single brand is bad even for the people that prefer that brand. And no I don't blame game developers from just simply benefiting from reduced development time and not optimzing better for AMD, that already wasn't happening but GameWorks is just fostering an ecosystem of no independent optimization at all.

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6 hours ago, Shreyas1 said:

If you have read every single word of this post, you are a legend

 

edit: a tldr would be cool

I seen longer post than this one on other forums.

I remember one in a water cooling thread that went big time down into the whole how the water flow works depending on serial or parallel setup along with a basic write up on how restriction plays a part.

 

Plus, it is not that long of a read.

 

1 hour ago, Princess Cadence said:

This is such a storm in the cup of water, seriously... so the game is hard to max out it's graphical quality, it could have been better optimized? certainly but Ubisoft and such does this all the time meh it is part of the industry... just remember you're really not losing any thing by disabling gameworks features for more fps:

quit with the exaggerations and conspiracy theories, you can play the game on AMD just fine if you disable features that were never meant for it, nVidia invests money on helping develop the game and use gameworks, it is obviously they expect it to reward those rocking Pascal/Maxwell GPUs first.

 

You want to be able to use gameworks features fully? then stop buying AMD and whining and buy nVidia next time... seriously.... nowadays every one wants to blame every one and every thing.

Just reminds me of all the boo whooing with PhysX features.

Same with G Sync and Freesync.

 

Personally, both of the companies have a habit of trying to come up with proprietary features to work on their cards.  So neither of them are angles.

Even older card makers did proprietary features as a way as a selling point for a card.

Also brand loyalty can go burn in a deep hole and should never be used for a buying decision.

 

3 hours ago, cj09beira said:

do you remember the original tomb raider, it was an amd title that had tressFx, but because amd aren't dicks they did not prevent nvidea to optimize their hardware for it, and at the time it allowed me with a (now super slow) 660 to run the game with tressfx and have a playable experience, in most gameworks titles that isn't the case

Seems people don't recall the start up issues with Nvidia and Intel graphics at launch with that game.  And, how tressFX was very wonky at first, cough, Larea's hair flying.  Also, when enabled, frame drops where know to occur on Nvidia cards before the patch fixed up some of the issues.

 

Issues I noticed most of the time on big AAA games tend to come from these software techs made solely by a hardware company.


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2 hours ago, leadeater said:

that already wasn't happening but GameWorks is just fostering an ecosystem of no independent optimization at all.

Not like people complain about Apple ecosystem lack of support to common Windows features and so on...

 

2 hours ago, Ithanul said:

Also brand loyalty can go burn in a deep hole and should never be used for a buying decision.

My point is that if you want a feature you can have it just shop accordingly, I don't mean that I'm against further optimization far from that, the more optimized the best for every one, I just don't think that prioritizing your line up first such a malevolent thing.

 

It is just an opinion personally, I'm not here defending nVidia, just  understanding it in a more lenient form, not saying any one's wrong at all.


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What a poorly designed benchmark. Then again, Japanese game devs aren't exactly known for their great PC ports. That being said, the problem is yet again the horrible proprietary closed off GameWorks. A library specifically designed to make "older" NVidia cards performance obsolete and to gimp AMD performance to such an extreme, that it becomes competition manipulation.

 

Sad thing is that people support NVidia in their dirty tactics, despite it being against their own consumer interests.

 

GameWorks being shit and destroying performance for no visible gain, is hardly news or surprising. Just NVidia being Nvidia.


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I used this benchmark earlier and noticed tons of hitching and stuttering while running it. My specs should not have been experiencing this issue.


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9 hours ago, leadeater said:

And the longest news post awards goes to....

 

9 hours ago, SC2Mitch said:

SO MUCH TEXT HOLY LORD

 

 

Seriously. After about halfway through, I was expecting a TLDR.... But that never happened...

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I just checked out the gamers nexus article. In order to keep the framerate above 60fps on a GTX 1060 they had to use low settings. That's just terrible.

 

People with GTX 1060 / RX 580 class of hardware are generally used to a very good experience at 1080p.

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18 minutes ago, Humbug said:

I just checked out the gamers nexus article. In order to keep the framerate above 60fps on a GTX 1060 they had to use low settings. That's just terrible.

The average framerate for 1060 was 62fps on medium. Unless you're talking about 1% lows, where it isn't that far off in 50's. High is more of a struggle, but that applies to all GPUs, not just mid range ones.

 

18 minutes ago, Humbug said:

People with GTX 1060 / RX 580 class of hardware are generally used to a very good experience at 1080p.

Check out the requirements for FFXV from the official site at https://www.finalfantasyxv.com/uk/windows-edition

Note for 1060 class GPU their target is 1080p 30fps. It seems they value eye candy over raw fps, although running medium is pretty close to 60fps.

 

 


Main rig: Asus Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700k stock, Noctua D14, G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200 2x8GB, Gigabyte GTX 1650, Corsair HX750i, In Win 303 NVIDIA, Samsung SM951 512GB, WD Blue 1TB, HP LP2475W 1200p wide gamut

Gaming system: Asrock Z370 Pro4, i7-8086k stock, Noctua D15, Corsair Vengeance LPX RGB 3000 2x8GB, Gigabyte RTX 2070, Fractal Edison 550W PSU, Corsair 600C, Optane 900p 280GB, Crucial MX200 1TB, Sandisk 960GB, Acer Predator XB241YU 1440p 144Hz G-sync

Ryzen rig: Asrock B450 ITX, R5 3600, Noctua D9L, G.SKill TridentZ 3000C14 2x8GB, Gigabyte RTX 2070, Corsair CX450M, NZXT Manta, WD Green 240GB SSD, LG OLED55B9PLA

VR rig: Asus Z170I Pro Gaming, i7-6700T stock, Scythe Kozuti, Kingston Hyper-X 2666 2x8GB, Zotac 1070 FE, Corsair CX450M, Silverstone SG13, Samsung PM951 256GB, Crucial BX500 1TB, HTC Vive

Gaming laptop: Asus FX503VD, i5-7300HQ, 2x8GB DDR4, GTX 1050, Sandisk 256GB + 480GB SSD

Total CPU heating: i7-8086k, i3-8350k, i7-7920X, 2x i7-6700k, i7-6700T, i5-6600k, i3-6100, i7-5930k, i7-5820k, i7-5775C, i5-5675C, 2x i7-4590, i5-4570S, 2x i3-4150T, E5-2683v3, 2x E5-2650, E5-2667, R7 3700X, R5 3600, R5 2600, R7 1700

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