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CPU Cooler Performance Tier List

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On 11/18/2018 at 7:31 AM, WoodenMarker said:

The MA410M is similar in performance to the DR4 in the same way that Tier 6 is similar in performance to Tier 5. It's not like the two coolers trade blows but instead, the DR4 always wins. 

https://bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/cooling/cooler-master-masterair-ma410m-review/2/

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/coolermaster_masterair_ma410m_review/7

https://www.techtesters.eu/cooler-master-masterair-ma410m-review/

well in the toms review they actually trade blows :P but it loses in a every other review.  Maybe it does better with the 5930k for some reason. It also beats the tier 4 MA620P there

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1 hour ago, Beerus said:

well in the toms review they actually trade blows :P but it loses in a every other review.  Maybe it does better with the 5930k for some reason. It also beats the tier 4 MA620P there

Having lower temps at a lower static percentage or non-max rpm isn't the same as having actual better performance since it doesn't scale linearly. If the argument is made for acoustics, rpm is irrelevant and temps should be compared to temps instead. In both max rpm and noise-normalized results, the DR4 performs better. 

As for the MA620P, it seems like Tom's Hardware's results is a bit of an outlier compared to other reviews. 


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On 1/31/2018 at 9:58 AM, WoodenMarker said:

Tier 5 - 140mm's & High-End 120mm's

    Arctic Freezer 33 eSports Edition

    Be Quiet! Dark Rock 4

I happened to notice that my current cooler, the Arctic Freezer 33 eSports One, and the cooler that I have laid my eyes on recently, the be quiet! Dark Rock 4 are in the same tier. I have the eSports One at the moment, but can easily add another fan to essentially make it an eSports Edition.

 

What's the better route to go down here?

 

a) Add an additional fan to my existing Arctic Freezer 33 eSports One to make it a push-pull config eSports Edition

b) Buy a be quiet! Dark Rock 4


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CPU: i5-8600K 4.7GHz Cooler: Arctic 33 eSports One Motherboard: Asus Prime Z370-P RAM: 16GB Corsair LPX DDR4-3000 GPU: Asus GTX 1060 3GB Storage: 250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD PSU: Corsair CX450M Case: NZXT S340

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Asus ZenBook UX410-UA

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1 hour ago, seoz said:

I happened to notice that my current cooler, the Arctic Freezer 33 eSports One, and the cooler that I have laid my eyes on recently, the be quiet! Dark Rock 4 are in the same tier. I have the eSports One at the moment, but can easily add another fan to essentially make it an eSports Edition.

What's the better route to go down here?

a) Add an additional fan to my existing Arctic Freezer 33 eSports One to make it a push-pull config eSports Edition

b) Buy a be quiet! Dark Rock 4

What are your priorities? The Freezer eSports Edition isn't nearly as quiet as the DR4. 

If you want more performance, an additional fan would be an improvement albeit small. 


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Also I see the NH-D15 and Le Grand Macho RT are separated in different tier here, while I read most of the reviews that shows they perform at similar performance even Macho gives slightly better numbers than D15 in one review but also slightly lower than D15 in another review, also Macho can be more quiet and has all the compatibility feature, Macho only lose for its short warranty.

 

So my opinion is Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT should be in the tier 2 because it performs the same plus all those compatibility advantage ahead the D15.

Or are there something that I missed about why they're being separated in different tier?


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1 hour ago, _Hustler_One_ said:

Also I see the NH-D15 and Le Grand Macho RT are separated in different tier here, while I read most of the reviews that shows they perform at similar performance even Macho gives slightly better numbers than D15 in one review but also slightly lower than D15 in another review, also Macho can be more quiet and has all the compatibility feature, Macho only lose for its short warranty.

So my opinion is Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT should be in the tier 2 because it performs the same plus all those compatibility advantage ahead the D15.

Or are there something that I missed about why they're being separated in different tier?

This is something that I've been thinking about for the past week and it seems that tests that aren't as heavy show the Le Grand Macho RT as a similar or better performer which makes sense since the heatsink design is more suitable for passive or low rpm cooling. The cooler is held back by the low rpm fan and catches up to the NH-D15 when a second fan is added. When loads are heavier, results often show the LGMRT perform similarly to or worse than the NH-D15S or similar coolers. 

 

Some examples:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Thermalright/Le_Grand_Macho/6.html

The LGMRT performs better than or similar to the NH-D15 at stock but starts to fall behind as the cpu is oc'ed and temps rise.

http://pcfoster.pl/artykul/thermalright-macho-le-grand-rt-–-test-chlodzenia/1655-4.html

The LMGRT is just behind the NH-D15 at stock but falls behind the NH-D15S when the cpu is oc'ed. 

https://whatnext.pl/test-chlodzenia-thermalright-le-grand-macho-rt/

The LMGRT is falls further behind the Fuma and Ninja 4 as voltage is raised.

 

In general, the LMGRT performs similarly to or slightly worse than other T3 coolers like the NH-D15S or the Ninja 4:

https://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/cpu-cooling/cpu-air-coolers/7107-thermalright-le-grand-macho-rt-cpu-cooler-review?showall=&start=5

http://hardwareoverclock.com/Thermalright-Le-Grand-Macho-RT-5.htm

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/kuehlung/38997-thermalright-le-grand-macho-mit-ty-147-b-im-nachtest.html?start=4

https://overclockers.ru/lab/show/73449_4/obzor-i-testirovanie-passivnoj-sistemy-ohlazhdeniya-thermalright-le-grand-macho

 

Plenty of coolers in T3 perform similarly to or even better than coolers in T2 in some tests but that isn't the norm. Even the NH-D15S ends up beating out the NH-D15 in parts of the TechPowerUp review.

Warranty, compatibility, and acoustics aren't accounted for in the list. 


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8 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

What are your priorities? The Freezer eSports Edition isn't nearly as quiet as the DR4. 

If you want more performance, an additional fan would be an improvement albeit small. 

My priorities are basically "Get the best cooler that can fit inside my case that isn't a Noctua cooler".


It's pronounced 'soh-z'

Read all of my product reviews here on the Linus Tech Tips forums

 

 

Main PC:

CPU: i5-8600K 4.7GHz Cooler: Arctic 33 eSports One Motherboard: Asus Prime Z370-P RAM: 16GB Corsair LPX DDR4-3000 GPU: Asus GTX 1060 3GB Storage: 250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD PSU: Corsair CX450M Case: NZXT S340

Keyboard: Roccat Isku FX Mouse: Logitech G502 Monitor: LG 29WK600 Sound: Roccat Cross

 

Brother:

CPU: Ryzen 2200G 3.5GHz Cooler: AMD Wraith Stealth Motherboard: ASRock B450M Pro4 RAM: 8GB Patriot Viper 4 DDR4-3000 GPU: Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Storage: Integral V2 250GB SSD PSU: BQ PP 10 400W Case: DeepCool Frame

Keyboard: Redragon K552 Mouse: Corsair Glaive Monitor: AOC E2270SWHN + Acer KG221Q Sound: Earbuds

 

Asus ZenBook UX410-UA

CPU: i3-8130U 2.2GHz RAM: 4GB DDR4-2400 GPU: Intel UHD 620 Storage: 256GB SK Hynix M.2 SATA SSD Screen: 14" 1920x1080p IPS

 

Asus EeeBook X205-TA

CPU: Atom Z3735F 1.33GHz RAM: 2GB DDR3-2133 GPU: Intel HD Z3700 Storage: 32GB SanDisk SDW32G eMMC Screen: 11.6" 1366x768 TN

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9 hours ago, seoz said:

My priorities are basically "Get the best cooler that can fit inside my case that isn't a Noctua cooler".

Ah, I found your thread. 

 


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Is a thermalright macho 120 sbm a good cooler for a 9600k? Is it a good idea to sell it and go for a dark rock 4 (non pro) or it will perform mostly the same? (I don't have the cpu yet)

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On 12/8/2018 at 4:58 AM, beast said:

Is a thermalright macho 120 sbm a good cooler for a 9600k? Is it a good idea to sell it and go for a dark rock 4 (non pro) or it will perform mostly the same? (I don't have the cpu yet)

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7810/thermalright-macho-120-sbm-cpu-cooler-review/index6.html

https://play3r.net/reviews/cooling/thermalright-macho-120-sbm-cpu-cooler-review/

https://www.overclockers.com/thermalright-macho-120-sbm-review/

 

It's fine. Don't waste your money on a DRP4/NH-D15/whatever else.

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Newcomer incoming!

The CES 2019 newly introduced, the Be Quiet Dark Rock Slim

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NOCTURNAL BLACKOUT || Intel Core i7-8700K || Noctua NH-D15 + NA-HC4 Fully Black Chromaxed || MSI Z370i Gaming Pro Carbon AC || Corsair Vengeance LPX 16Gb (2x8Gb) DDR4 2666 C16 Black || EVGA GTX 1060 FTW2+ DT 6Gb || Samsung 860 Evo M.2 SATA 250Gb + WD 2.5" HDD 1Tb + Seagate Momentus 2.5" HDD 500Gb || Corsair TX650M || Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX TG Black + 2x Noctua NF-A14 iPPC 3000 Intake + 1x Noctua NF-A14 Chromax Exhaust || ASUS VG248QE || Ducky One 2 Mini MX Silent Red || Roccat Tyon Black || Corsair HS50 Carbon

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Another newcomer from Deepcool..(?)

 

 


NOCTURNAL BLACKOUT || Intel Core i7-8700K || Noctua NH-D15 + NA-HC4 Fully Black Chromaxed || MSI Z370i Gaming Pro Carbon AC || Corsair Vengeance LPX 16Gb (2x8Gb) DDR4 2666 C16 Black || EVGA GTX 1060 FTW2+ DT 6Gb || Samsung 860 Evo M.2 SATA 250Gb + WD 2.5" HDD 1Tb + Seagate Momentus 2.5" HDD 500Gb || Corsair TX650M || Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX TG Black + 2x Noctua NF-A14 iPPC 3000 Intake + 1x Noctua NF-A14 Chromax Exhaust || ASUS VG248QE || Ducky One 2 Mini MX Silent Red || Roccat Tyon Black || Corsair HS50 Carbon

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