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CPU Cooler Performance Tier List

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 hour ago, WallacEngineering said:

Ive got a Cryorig R1 Universal with upgraded Phanteks PH-F140 HP II fans, I can confidently state that with proper airflow it deserves a bump to tier 1

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What were your temps with the stock fans before replacing them? Did you have the original PH-F140 fans before? 

 

The coolers listed are with their stock configuration and are tiered in respect to that. As far as that's concerned, the R1 Ultimate more consistently trades blows with the coolers listed in Tier 2 than outperforming them.

https://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/cpu-cooling/cpu-air-coolers/6599-scythe-fuma-twin-tower-cpu-cooler-review?showall=&start=5

https://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/corsair_hydro_series_h80i_gt_review,8.html

https://nl.hardware.info/productervaring/4167/cryorig-r1-universal-productervaring-door-foritain

https://www.kitguru.net/components/cooling/dominic-moass/cryorig-h7-air-cooler-review/5/

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7039/cryorig-r1-universal-cpu-cooler-review/index6.html

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?289438-Cryorig-R1-Ultimate

https://benchmarkreviews.com/27660/cryorig-r1-ultimate-cpu-cooler-heatsink-review/5/

http://www.funkykit.com/reviews/cooling/cryorig-r1universal-cooler-review/3/


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48 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

Ya stock it was very NEARLY as good, but this is probably due to my ridiculous 540mm worth of intake fans, so yea I can see your point lol. Stock fans aren't PH series, they are Cryorig's own design. I always thought it was slightly unfair to judge the R1 based on the stock fans though, as Cryorig uses fairly crappy low RPM fans that are pretty terrible with static pressure as well, but testing all coolers in their stock configuration is fair in another way :)


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10 minutes ago, WallacEngineering said:

Stock fans aren't PH series, they are Cryorig's own design.

I might be misremembering but I think you mentioned having PH-F140 fans before without the II so I thought that you might have swapped the fans out twice.


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5 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

I might be misremembering but I think you mentioned having PH-F140 fans before without the II so I thought that you might have swapped the fans out twice.

Oh nope sorry only upgraded them the once and the II's were what I got :)


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So... Linus Tech Tips' own benchmark here:

Is a case of an outlier? Because here, a Tier 4 cooler is declared superior to a Tier 1 cooler.

(I'm not just being snarky but am looking into buying a new cooler and all the conflicting info is driving me nuts ;) )

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16 minutes ago, SomeEdward said:

So... Linus Tech Tips' own benchmark here:

Is a case of an outlier? Because here, a Tier 4 cooler is declared superior to a Tier 1 cooler.

(I'm not just being snarky but am looking into buying a new cooler and all the conflicting info is driving me nuts ;) )

It could be anything really. Weird mounting on the asetek mounts, some nuance in the IHS that favors noctua's mounting mechanism, perhaps their esecially designed plate that covers the whole IHS.

 

I'd wait for someone else to repeat the experiment (this is an experiment and doesn't actually answer the question until it's confirmed in other benches).


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27 minutes ago, SomeEdward said:

So... Linus Tech Tips' own benchmark here:

Is a case of an outlier? Because here, a Tier 4 cooler is declared superior to a Tier 1 cooler.

(I'm not just being snarky but am looking into buying a new cooler and all the conflicting info is driving me nuts ;) )

Was that with TR4/SP3? The dies are spread around more, so the size of the coldplate on the cooler matters a lot. The standard Asetek ones aren't as big as the custom Noctua or Enermax ones. 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3089-threadripper-cooler-comparison-full-coverage-liquid-vs-air


 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 hour ago, SomeEdward said:

So... Linus Tech Tips' own benchmark here:

Is a case of an outlier? Because here, a Tier 4 cooler is declared superior to a Tier 1 cooler.

(I'm not just being snarky but am looking into buying a new cooler and all the conflicting info is driving me nuts ;) )

1 hour ago, Energycore said:

perhaps their esecially designed plate that covers the whole IHS.

1 hour ago, seon123 said:

Was that with TR4/SP3? The dies are spread around more, so the size of the coldplate on the cooler matters a lot

Yeah, the coolers in the video are TR4 variants which perform much better than the normal lineup at least when it comes to TR4. https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3029-quick-ab-test-impact-tr4-coldplate-size-with-noctua

I'd like to add them to the tier list when there's more data but it might be difficult to get a clear idea of where it stands without tests comparing the TR4 coolers on non-TR4 sockets and against the normal lineup. 


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6 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

Yeah, the coolers in the video are TR4 variants which perform much better than the normal lineup at least when it comes to TR4. https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3029-quick-ab-test-impact-tr4-coldplate-size-with-noctua

I'd like to add them to the tier list when there's more data but it might be difficult to get a clear idea of where it stands without tests comparing the TR4 coolers on non-TR4 sockets and against the normal lineup. 

Perhaps you can add a note that TR4 users should look for TR4 specific coolers as the performance difference can be up to 2 tiers


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Speaking about limited data - Eisbaer 120 is in the list but I only found this review: https://www.hardwareasylum.com/reviews/cooling/alphacool_eisbaer-120/page4.aspx

Do you recall any other sources? Because that seems like a very interesting product (copper radiator and would theoretically get rid of as much heat with just one relatively low throughput fan where others in the same tier usually require 2 or higher throughput ones) but I'm not all that confident because of the lack of data.

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40 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Perhaps you can add a note that TR4 users should look for TR4 specific coolers as the performance difference can be up to 2 tiers

Added note. I'm not sure if I should add separate TR4 entries into the list. Just doing more research atm. 

16 minutes ago, SomeEdward said:

Speaking about limited data - Eisbaer 120 is in the list but I only found this review: https://www.hardwareasylum.com/reviews/cooling/alphacool_eisbaer-120/page4.aspx

Do you recall any other sources? Because that seems like a very interesting product (copper radiator and would theoretically get rid of as much heat with just one relatively low throughput fan where others in the same tier usually require 2 or higher powered ones) but I'm not all that confident because of the lack of data.

Yeah, I couldn't find an abundance of data on it but what I did see between tests and forum threads was consistent enough to add it to the list.

https://whatnext.pl/recenzje/test-chlodzenia-alphacool-eisbaer-120-cpu/

https://www.computerbase.de/forum/showthread.php?t=1614300


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Kind of off topic, but will there be a thermal paste performance tier list?


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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Kind of off topic, but will there be a thermal paste performance tier list?

Nah, there's not much of a difference between the best and average pastes. 


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2 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

Nah, there's not much of a difference between the best and average pastes. 

True dat. Take a cheaper, popular paste like Arctic's MX-4 and a more expensive, "exotic" paste like Thermal Grizzly's Kyronaut. While Kyronaut will do better, the MX-4 will only run 2-3°C hotter in 99% of all applications, weather liquid or air cooled.

 

3 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Kind of off topic, but will there be a thermal paste performance tier list?

 

Beisides, just Google "Toms Hardware Thermal Paste". Very extensive review already available.


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4 hours ago, DarkStang said:

After using Cryorig C1 and H5 in the same system I can say the C1 is not even close. It's more comparable to a 212. The H5 keeps my CPU at 65C during a stress test. The C1 was at 80C.

What are the system specs? If the fan on the heatsink isn't facing the same direction as the rest of the airflow in the system, it will perform worse than it otherwise could. 


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Hello guys, this is my first post here.
Not sure if this is the right place to ask but, I want to upgrade my corsair H60 for a 240mm AIO (I lacked case space when I bought it).
My cpu is the i7 7700k and I want to be able to overclock it.
Since I live in Brazil, most of the other coolers are not accessible or too expensive to me. 

Taking into account my current budget I could get any of those:

Tier 2: Deepcool Maelstrom 240 / T**
Tier 3: 
Cooler Master MasterLiquid 240**

Tier 4: Cryorig H5 Ultimate
Any idea/suggestions on which one of those is the best I could get? Is there a clear difference between those tiers?


Edit: There's also some unlisted coolers with the same price range I could consider like:
PCYES SANGUE FRIO 240MM PWC240H40PTSL
GAMEMAX ICEBERG 240MM
MYMAX ALGOR 240MM

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On 6/23/2018 at 3:02 PM, WoodenMarker said:

What are the system specs? If the fan on the heatsink isn't facing the same direction as the rest of the airflow in the system, it will perform worse than it otherwise could. 

The C1 is a downdraft cooler and the h5 is a tower cooler. And they were both on an overclocked R7 1700, 3.9 at 1.35v. 

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4 hours ago, DarkStang said:

The C1 is a downdraft cooler and the h5 is a tower cooler. 

That's the point. I'm guessing the fans in your system is facing the same direction as the H5 as opposed to the C1. The direction of airflow varies between different systems.


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On 1/31/2018 at 9:58 AM, WoodenMarker said:

Tier 5 - 140mm's & High-End 120mm's

    Arctic Freezer 33 eSports Edition

 

On 1/31/2018 at 9:58 AM, WoodenMarker said:

Tier 6 - Better Hyper 212's

    Arctic Freezer 33 eSports ONE

Hi, do you guys have any source as to where you found the results to the Arctic Freezer 33 eSports Edition? I currently have an eSports One and I am looking into the possibility of upgrading it to an eSports Edition, but I would like reliable and accurate sources to back up my purchase.


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12 hours ago, seoz said:

Hi, do you guys have any source as to where you found the results to the Arctic Freezer 33 eSports Edition? I currently have an eSports One and I am looking into the possibility of upgrading it to an eSports Edition, but I would like reliable and accurate sources to back up my purchase.

They're the same heatsink. The eSports ONE just has one fan included as opposed to the two on the original eSports Edition. The difference in performance isn't that big and you'd have identical performance by adding a second fan to the heatsink.


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On 1/31/2018 at 3:28 PM, WoodenMarker said:

Tier 3 - Dual Towers

    Corsair H45 / 80**

Hi guys,Warm greetings! Newbie here.

I want to ask "Is Corsair H45 really that great that is outperforms so many 240mm radiator liquid coolers priced so much higher?"

If so why isn't it more popular? What are the caveats one must be aware of when choosing this?

I mean this is a Tier 3 cooler and has a 5 year warranty from corsair, what am I missing here?

 

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6 hours ago, Ragnar31 said:

Hi guys,Warm greetings! Newbie here.

I want to ask "Is Corsair H45 really that great that is outperforms so many 240mm radiator liquid coolers priced so much higher?"

If so why isn't it more popular? What are the caveats one must be aware of when choosing this?

I mean this is a Tier 3 cooler and has a 5 year warranty from corsair, what am I missing here?

Yes, it performs that well at least from the benchmarks I've looked at. Keep in mind that these are with fans at 100% rpm or 2300rpm for the H45. The caveat is that it's noisy or performs worse with fans at lower rpm. It can also perform worse due to placement in the case. Corsair recommends it as intake at the rear of the case but that often means more dust accumulation since most cases don't include rear fan filters as they're generally meant to be used as exhaust. 

It's less popular since it's less well known than other 120mm AIO's (ex: H60 / H80) and most people lump all 120mm AIO's in the 'not worth getting' bin. It makes sense since it's usually around the same price as high end air coolers that are quieter and don't need an unfiltered intake for near optimal performance. 


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