Jump to content
Search In
  • More options...
Find results that contain...
Find results in...
LukeS

Should I upgrade my CPU or GPU first?

Recommended Posts

Posted · Original PosterOP

Hey y'all, so I'm running a pre-built Desktop that I'm slowly upgrading (bought it all for $50 from a friend, upgraded to 8 GB of RAM total for $20, threw a Nvidia GT 730 in it for $70)... I'd love to upgrade it soon (once the GPU market becomes better/cryptocurrency stops), but I'm trying to decide what I should be looking for.

 

My specs right now are:
RAM: 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3

CPU: Intel i3 4130 3.40GHz

Graphics Card: Nvidia 730 GT (2 GB vRAM)

PSU: EVGA 500w (my grandparents got me this for Christmas to aid in my upgrade... I was at 300W before)

 

If I can recall when I looked up the specs to my motherboard, it can only go as far as an i5. Because it is DDR3 RAM, I'm wondering if it's best if I invest in a new board/new RAM in total to upgrade to DDR4, or am I fine where I'm at. Again, I'm a poor highschool/college kid making minimum wage and saving for my education. The only video games I really play right now are Rainbow 6 Siege and Stardew Valley. I'd love to be able to run Siege at ABOVE 30 FPS (That's 6 more frames than I'm getting atm) and at medium graphics sometime in the near future. Any ideas on what I should do? I was looking at the Nvidia 1050Ti, but now they're all $230... I'd also appreciate links if y'all have better solutions of hardware that I should look into. Thanks!

 


"I don't try to be smart, I try to observe. Millions saw the apple fall, only one asked "why?""

Link to post
Share on other sites

GPU and PSU. EVGA doesn't make a single 500W AFAIK that would be acceptable for even a mid range build.


Helpful Links: PSU Tier List 4.0 | Why not group reg? | Avoid the EVGA G3 | EVGA BR/BT? no. noooo. | buy (almost) anything except focus

 

Helios EVO (Main):

Intel Core™ i7-8700K (Won at LTX, signed by Dennis) | 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4-3200 | GIGABYTE Z370 AORUS GAMING 5 | Sapphire NITRO+ AMD RX VEGA 64 | NZXT H510 | GIGABYTE G750H PSU | MasterLiquid ML240L

(Planned upgrades: RTX 3070? RX 6700XT?)

 

Pacific Spirit XT - Server

Intel Core™ i7-4720HQ | GIGABYTE GA-H81M-S2PV | 16GB Kingston HyperX DDR3-1866 | Intel "UrFPSGon" HD Graphics 4600 | Define C TG | Corsair CX450M

 

Spare Laptop (HP Elitebook 850 G2)/Gaming Laptop (Legion Y7000)/Old Server

Spoiler

Elitebook: i7 5500U | 8GB DDR3L-1333 | 500GB SAMSUNG 860 Evo | AMD R7 M260 (I found this in a garbage bin at the airport)

Legion: i5 8300H | 16GB RAM | 256GB SSD | 1TB HDD | 1050 Ti | Power Brick

Old Server: FX8120 | ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 | 8GB Chinese RAM | Radeon HD 5000 Series iGPU | 4TB HDD | 275GB SSD


 

Intel is bringing DDR4 to the mainstream with the Intel® Core™ i5 6600K and i7 6700K processors. Learn more by clicking the link in the description below.

Link to post
Share on other sites

GT 730 for $70? That's a terrible deal. The card is worth $40 performance wise. The power supply is also questionable.

 

CPU: Xeon E3 v3 (performance closer to i7, supported in independently sold mobo but might not be supported with the prebuilt) or i5

 

GPU: used GTX 970/980, or new RX 560(1024) or GTX 1050 (the latter two are 30-40% slower than the former two)

 

In order: PSU --> GPU --> CPU

Of course if there's a good deal on some parts then you can buy that first.


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, JDE said:

GPU and PSU. EVGA doesn't make a single 500W AFAIK that would be acceptable for even a mid range build.

The BQ isn't that bad, is it?


 

Quote

Women. They are a complete mystery.

-Stephen Hawking

 

I think the hoomans put their builds here?

Why do you hoomans give your builds a name? Here's my build, which I shall call "Do as I Say, Not As I Do" (seriously, don't get this build)

Spoiler

Ryzen 1500X @3,925 GHz

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo + 2x ML120

MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic

2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 MHz CL15 (Micron B-die) @2933 MHz

Sapphire Radeon R9 280 Dual-X @1120 MHz / 1450 MHz

120GB 850 Evo

120GB Kingston SSD

500GB WD Blue

Cooler Master Elite 430

Seasonic Prime Titanium 650W

Logitech G710 with Kailh Box Jade

Logitech G502

HyperX Cloud

And my laptop, which I shall call "If It's Stupid But It Works" (It can actually play CS:GO at 50 FPS, and Civ V at 25 FPS)

Spoiler

Lenovo Thinkpad L460

Intel Core i3 6100U

4GB (probably) DDR4 2133 MHz

Intel HD Graphics 520 0.3-1.0 GHz

128GB Samsung MZ7LF128HCHP

Corsair M65 Pro RGB (worst mouse I've ever had)

Sennheiser CX 5.00G

And here would be where I would put a picture of my cat. But apparently, images are not allowed here. So take this instead (*ΦωΦ*)

Hello fellow night theme users

Link to post
Share on other sites

People giving to much flack to the evga psu. I wouldnt say it is great but it isnt terrible. For you current needs it is fine, the same with cpu. 

I would get the something above a 1050 or 1050TI, that would be more then enough to get your Siege above 60.

Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Starelementpoke said:

Technically, no, but not the best decision. 

Yeah, but if it is, then he could save the PSU upgrade for later. If it's any other EVGA 500W, then a PSU upgrade should be fairly high, though

Edited by seon123
Something something

 

Quote

Women. They are a complete mystery.

-Stephen Hawking

 

I think the hoomans put their builds here?

Why do you hoomans give your builds a name? Here's my build, which I shall call "Do as I Say, Not As I Do" (seriously, don't get this build)

Spoiler

Ryzen 1500X @3,925 GHz

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo + 2x ML120

MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic

2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 MHz CL15 (Micron B-die) @2933 MHz

Sapphire Radeon R9 280 Dual-X @1120 MHz / 1450 MHz

120GB 850 Evo

120GB Kingston SSD

500GB WD Blue

Cooler Master Elite 430

Seasonic Prime Titanium 650W

Logitech G710 with Kailh Box Jade

Logitech G502

HyperX Cloud

And my laptop, which I shall call "If It's Stupid But It Works" (It can actually play CS:GO at 50 FPS, and Civ V at 25 FPS)

Spoiler

Lenovo Thinkpad L460

Intel Core i3 6100U

4GB (probably) DDR4 2133 MHz

Intel HD Graphics 520 0.3-1.0 GHz

128GB Samsung MZ7LF128HCHP

Corsair M65 Pro RGB (worst mouse I've ever had)

Sennheiser CX 5.00G

And here would be where I would put a picture of my cat. But apparently, images are not allowed here. So take this instead (*ΦωΦ*)

Hello fellow night theme users

Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Lineron said:

People giving to much flack to the evga psu. I wouldnt say it is great but it isnt terrible. For you current needs it is fine, the same with cpu. 

You don't even know which PSU it is. EVGA has about a billion different series of PSUs, many of them being complete crap


 

Quote

Women. They are a complete mystery.

-Stephen Hawking

 

I think the hoomans put their builds here?

Why do you hoomans give your builds a name? Here's my build, which I shall call "Do as I Say, Not As I Do" (seriously, don't get this build)

Spoiler

Ryzen 1500X @3,925 GHz

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo + 2x ML120

MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic

2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 MHz CL15 (Micron B-die) @2933 MHz

Sapphire Radeon R9 280 Dual-X @1120 MHz / 1450 MHz

120GB 850 Evo

120GB Kingston SSD

500GB WD Blue

Cooler Master Elite 430

Seasonic Prime Titanium 650W

Logitech G710 with Kailh Box Jade

Logitech G502

HyperX Cloud

And my laptop, which I shall call "If It's Stupid But It Works" (It can actually play CS:GO at 50 FPS, and Civ V at 25 FPS)

Spoiler

Lenovo Thinkpad L460

Intel Core i3 6100U

4GB (probably) DDR4 2133 MHz

Intel HD Graphics 520 0.3-1.0 GHz

128GB Samsung MZ7LF128HCHP

Corsair M65 Pro RGB (worst mouse I've ever had)

Sennheiser CX 5.00G

And here would be where I would put a picture of my cat. But apparently, images are not allowed here. So take this instead (*ΦωΦ*)

Hello fellow night theme users

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Original PosterOP
8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

GT 730 for $70? That's a terrible deal. The card is worth $40 performance wise. The power supply is also questionable.

 

CPU: Xeon E3 v3 (performance closer to i7, supported in independently sold mobo but might not be supported with the prebuilt) or i5

 

GPU: used GTX 970/980, or new RX 560(1024) or GTX 1050 (the latter two are 30-40% slower than the former two)

 

In order: PSU --> GPU --> CPU

Of course if there's a good deal on some parts then you can buy that first.

Ah thanks. I'm not planning on running anything besides Siege (and going into my first full year of undergrad next year, probably won't be gaming much), so I'll check into the 980 (though iicr, they're $300+, which is wayyy out of my budget).

 

And in reply to everyone about my PSU: It was a Christmas present and I didn't have to pay for it. That's all that I needed.


"I don't try to be smart, I try to observe. Millions saw the apple fall, only one asked "why?""

Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, LukeS said:

And in reply to everyone about my PSU: It was a Christmas present and I didn't have to pay for it. That's all that I needed.

Yes, that's fine, but if it kills all the components, then it would end up being the most expensive part of the system. 

Which model is it?


 

Quote

Women. They are a complete mystery.

-Stephen Hawking

 

I think the hoomans put their builds here?

Why do you hoomans give your builds a name? Here's my build, which I shall call "Do as I Say, Not As I Do" (seriously, don't get this build)

Spoiler

Ryzen 1500X @3,925 GHz

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo + 2x ML120

MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic

2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 MHz CL15 (Micron B-die) @2933 MHz

Sapphire Radeon R9 280 Dual-X @1120 MHz / 1450 MHz

120GB 850 Evo

120GB Kingston SSD

500GB WD Blue

Cooler Master Elite 430

Seasonic Prime Titanium 650W

Logitech G710 with Kailh Box Jade

Logitech G502

HyperX Cloud

And my laptop, which I shall call "If It's Stupid But It Works" (It can actually play CS:GO at 50 FPS, and Civ V at 25 FPS)

Spoiler

Lenovo Thinkpad L460

Intel Core i3 6100U

4GB (probably) DDR4 2133 MHz

Intel HD Graphics 520 0.3-1.0 GHz

128GB Samsung MZ7LF128HCHP

Corsair M65 Pro RGB (worst mouse I've ever had)

Sennheiser CX 5.00G

And here would be where I would put a picture of my cat. But apparently, images are not allowed here. So take this instead (*ΦωΦ*)

Hello fellow night theme users

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, LukeS said:

And in reply to everyone about my PSU: It was a Christmas present and I didn't have to pay for it. That's all that I needed.

And with higher loads, could kill your system depending on the model.

2 hours ago, Lineron said:

People giving to much flack to the evga psu. I wouldnt say it is great but it isnt terrible. For you current needs it is fine, the same with cpu. 

I would get the something above a 1050 or 1050TI, that would be more then enough to get your Siege above 60.

cough cough N1 EXISTS cough cough


Helpful Links: PSU Tier List 4.0 | Why not group reg? | Avoid the EVGA G3 | EVGA BR/BT? no. noooo. | buy (almost) anything except focus

 

Helios EVO (Main):

Intel Core™ i7-8700K (Won at LTX, signed by Dennis) | 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4-3200 | GIGABYTE Z370 AORUS GAMING 5 | Sapphire NITRO+ AMD RX VEGA 64 | NZXT H510 | GIGABYTE G750H PSU | MasterLiquid ML240L

(Planned upgrades: RTX 3070? RX 6700XT?)

 

Pacific Spirit XT - Server

Intel Core™ i7-4720HQ | GIGABYTE GA-H81M-S2PV | 16GB Kingston HyperX DDR3-1866 | Intel "UrFPSGon" HD Graphics 4600 | Define C TG | Corsair CX450M

 

Spare Laptop (HP Elitebook 850 G2)/Gaming Laptop (Legion Y7000)/Old Server

Spoiler

Elitebook: i7 5500U | 8GB DDR3L-1333 | 500GB SAMSUNG 860 Evo | AMD R7 M260 (I found this in a garbage bin at the airport)

Legion: i5 8300H | 16GB RAM | 256GB SSD | 1TB HDD | 1050 Ti | Power Brick

Old Server: FX8120 | ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 | 8GB Chinese RAM | Radeon HD 5000 Series iGPU | 4TB HDD | 275GB SSD


 

Intel is bringing DDR4 to the mainstream with the Intel® Core™ i5 6600K and i7 6700K processors. Learn more by clicking the link in the description below.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Original PosterOP
15 hours ago, seon123 said:

Yes, that's fine, but if it kills all the components, then it would end up being the most expensive part of the system. 

Which model is it?

EVGA 500w 80Plus certified PSU.


"I don't try to be smart, I try to observe. Millions saw the apple fall, only one asked "why?""

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


×