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Logan Paul is Getting Punished

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On 13/01/2018 at 1:40 PM, Teddy07 said:

do people really care about this shit? 

 

Aren't there enough real problems in the world out there?

You are implying that one can only care about one problem, but not the other. People can comment on this issue while still talking about other issues, they aren't mutually exclusive. 


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23 hours ago, Trik'Stari said:

I could not agree more.

Here's the issue at hand, he posted a video of a dead body of someone who commited suicide and laughed about it, regardless of why he laughed about it, it makes no argument, it's the fact he did it.

 

Furthermore he financially gained even w/o monetizing the video. How? He gained a significant amount of subscribers and possibly orders on his shop, therefore assuming he monetized at least one video thereafter or new subscribers watched one of his other monetized videos where said person would not have, he did in fact made money out of someone's demise.

 

So by saying this isn't an issue (suicide is a big issue, laughing about it is terrible but making money on it...) is like saying the Nazis did no wrong in the Holocaust and the event itself never happened, as neither parties cared about the affected lives during said events.

 

What he should have done was created a vlog about it removing said scene in total, but that wouldn't make money, that wouldn't bring massive amounts of free publicity to bring in money now would it?

 

23 hours ago, kokakolia said:

Any publicity is good publicity. I didn't know about this Logan Paul guy until this controversy. I am living in my own personalized YouTube bubble. I wish I could see this suicide forest video somehow. 

Not the video but it'll likely be one of the closests ones on the web... Personally I would love to forget this ass wipe, and if/when youtube goes around to finally removing all financial ties with him he'll drop off the face of the earth as it is.

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9 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

Nazis did no wrong in the Holocaust and the event itself never happened, as neither parties cared about the affected lives during said events.

Did you seriously just compare an ass laughing at a dead body is like Nazis did nothing wrong in killing millions of people?

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18 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

Did you seriously just compare an ass laughing at a dead body is like Nazis did nothing wrong in killing millions of people?

Think of it like this, if neither parties existed, and if neither event happened the world would be a better place, therefore both Logan and the Nazis are the same. Regardless the severity they are the same.

 

BTW the next time you wish to make someone look like a supporter of the Nazi's, and denyer of the Holocaust try waiting for a page... It'll make it more believable :dry:

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26 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

Regardless the severity they are the same.

One is an asshole and the other literally killed people. How the fuck are you even trying to say they are the same. 

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32 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

 

I agree with your sentiment, but I think that people use Nazi comparisons far too lightly. Severity has to be taken into account.

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51 minutes ago, JoeyDM said:

I agree with your sentiment, but I think that people use Nazi comparisons far too lightly. Severity has to be taken into account.

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2 hours ago, Egg-Roll said:

Here's the issue at hand, he posted a video of a dead body of someone who commited suicide and laughed about it, regardless of why he laughed about it, it makes no argument, it's the fact he did it.

 

Furthermore he financially gained even w/o monetizing the video. How? He gained a significant amount of subscribers and possibly orders on his shop, therefore assuming he monetized at least one video thereafter or new subscribers watched one of his other monetized videos where said person would not have, he did in fact made money out of someone's demise.

 

So by saying this isn't an issue (suicide is a big issue, laughing about it is terrible but making money on it...) is like saying the Nazis did no wrong in the Holocaust and the event itself never happened, as neither parties cared about the affected lives during said events.

 

What he should have done was created a vlog about it removing said scene in total, but that wouldn't make money, that wouldn't bring massive amounts of free publicity to bring in money now would it?

 

Not the video but it'll likely be one of the closests ones on the web... Personally I would love to forget this ass wipe, and if/when youtube goes around to finally removing all financial ties with him he'll drop off the face of the earth as it is.

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ehhh, iffy comparison tbh


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3 minutes ago, Spenser1337 said:

Who cares 

You don't and other people who don't. But everyone else does for different reasons esp. if they have dealt with suicide or had dealt with a suicide victim before.

 

Not saying that this topic will apply to everyone or everyone should care for it


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Yeesh! The reactions to Logan Paul are really strong. There are far worse things you can do than being a disrespectful idiot. It's as if everyone is yearning for a scapegoat. 

 

 

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Good riddance to this piece of fucking shit. Now we need to rid Youtube of fucking jake paul. he's just as worse, if not worse. Pieces of shit can rot in fucking hell.


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47 minutes ago, kokakolia said:

Yeesh! The reactions to Logan Paul are really strong. There are far worse things you can do than being a disrespectful idiot. It's as if everyone is yearning for a scapegoat.

If the suspected audience he has means anything, they're all impressionable and think that doing stupid things like what he did is fine or there aren't any consequences for those actions.

 

Not to mention other immature "adults" who might think of doing the same thing for views and monies.

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1 hour ago, kokakolia said:

Yeesh! The reactions to Logan Paul are really strong. There are far worse things you can do than being a disrespectful idiot. It's as if everyone is yearning for a scapegoat. 

 

 

What he did went against Youtube's policy. It's that simple. He showed a corpse and laughed at a suicide victim, and has made money off of it through his subscriber boost. His core audience is impressionable children. He either needs to be banned or demonetized.

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1 minute ago, JoeyDM said:

What he did went against Youtube's policy. It's that simple. He showed a corpse and laughed at a suicide victim, and has made money off of it through his subscriber boost. His core audience is impressionable children. He either needs to be banned or demonetized.

Would it be weird for me to say that I want to watch Logan Paul videos now? Only because they're stupid and edgy and I want to be impressed. Because they break the rules. What other trouble is he gonna get into next? And because I don't feel personally offended. 

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2 hours ago, JoeyDM said:

I agree with your sentiment, but I think that people use Nazi comparisons far too lightly. Severity has to be taken into account.

I do agree with you, everyone (including me) use the Nazis as a example most of the time due to the large scale knowledge of the lack of care towards human life. Logan has proven not just the lack of care but lack of respect towards the japanese.

 

One can't use someone like Donald Trump who w/o getting into political debates even tho their personalities are quite similar (look back at the campaign), plus 90% of the people on this sad little planet know nothing about more recent issues where human life isn't cared about.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide (I learned about this via the movie over 12 years ago).

 

53 minutes ago, Theminecraftaddict555 said:

if they have dealt with suicide or had dealt with a suicide victim before.

 

Not saying that this topic will apply to everyone or everyone should care for it

I personally think everyone should care, because here's a short list of possible reasons for suicide attempts:

  • Bad parents (drugs, booze, simply stupid)
  • School issues including bullying and grades (usually tied in to the first)
  • Internet (google it)
  • Debt
  • College
  • Drugs
  • Loss of a significant and unwilling to continue on with life w/o them
  • Loss of a child including miscarriages
  • other forms of uncontrollable depression including undiagnosed or unknown to even oneself.
  • failure in life in any means
  • Medical issues usually resulting in death (cancer MS AIDs etc), but not always sometimes long term pain can force people to do it.

Those that dont care or think this is just him being stupid, you'll quickly change your minds if someone you know personally commits suicide or even attempts it. If not then you should see a doctor, as something is likely wrong cognitively.

 

I either know or have known people with various issues, so while this seems like something miniscule it's actually no different than some random dude walking into a funeral home and laughing at your now deceased ________, just 10x worst.

 

Also the dumb ass is now begging for a second chance xD, If i was youtube I would just ban him now...

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/japanese-cops-say-logan-paul-videos-broke-the-lawand-theyd-just-love-to-nail-him

idk how reliable that site is... but the next time he's in japan he just might get arrested.

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2 minutes ago, kokakolia said:

Would it be weird for me to say that I want to watch Logan Paul videos now? Only because they're stupid and edgy and I want to be impressed. Because they break the rules. What other trouble is he gonna get into next? And because I don't feel personally offended. 

Which is exactly why he needs to be banned. Because impressionable children like you feel exactly as you just stated.

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2 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

I do agree with you, everyone (including me) use the Nazis as a example most of the time due to the large scale knowledge of the lack of care towards human life. Logan has proven not just the lack of care but lack of respect towards the japanese.

 

One can't use someone like Donald Trump who w/o getting into political debates even tho their personalities are quite similar (look back at the campaign), plus 90% of the people on this sad little planet know nothing about more recent issues where human life isn't cared about.

My point is that you really don't need to make a comparison. There isn't an equivalent comparison to make, it's a bit of a unique situation in terms of audience, scope, impact, and action. Make intelligent arguments and comparisons are unnecessary (not to say that you are making unintelligent arguments.)

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2 minutes ago, JoeyDM said:

Which is exactly why he needs to be banned. Because impressionable children like you feel exactly as you just stated.

Impressionable children? No. This expression kinda makes me sad to be honest. You expect people to behave a certain way. Rules need to be broken to remind people why rules were established in the first place. To provoke thought.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, kokakolia said:

Impressionable children? No. This expression kinda makes me sad to be honest. You expect people to behave a certain way. Rules need to be broken to remind people why rules were established in the first place. To provoke thought.

 

 

Yes. Logan Paul is clearly provoking thought by mocking suicide victims and being a generally disrespectful douche.

 

Your comment reeks of /r/im14andthisisdeep. Or jokes on b that kids actually take seriously.

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22 minutes ago, kokakolia said:

Would it be weird for me to say that I want to watch Logan Paul videos now? Only because they're stupid and edgy and I want to be impressed. Because they break the rules. What other trouble is he gonna get into next? And because I don't feel personally offended. 

Excuse me sir?

 

Would you like to contribute to the increasing cancer?


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1 minute ago, JoeyDM said:

Yes. Logan Paul is clearly provoking thought by mocking suicide victims and being a generally disrespectful douche.

 

Your comment reeks of /r/im14andthisisdeep. Or jokes on b that kids actually take seriously.

First, /b/ is a work of art. 

 

Second, Logan Paul really sparked a serious discussion on YouTube's policies. It is definitely a milestone for better or worse. 

 

Third, immaturity should be celebrated. I am a huge fan of Art Brute and Marcel Duchamp's fountain is the greatest piece of art ever made in the history of mankind.

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