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1070ti or a 1080 (not ti)

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Posted · Original PosterOP

right i have around £500-600 GBP it equates to either a 1070ti or a 1080 in the uk, don’t really wanna spend £700 on a GPU what do people think is the 1070ti better than a plain 1080 ? i’ve just came back to the proper gaming, currently running a 1050ti but want the kid to have that in her machine to run roblox ?? CPU is a ryzen 1600 not fussed about that as there cheap enough to pass along later in the year, thanks for any help regards BigMack

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Overclocked 1070 ti = 1080, I'd go with the cheaper option.


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Get the cheaper one. If they cost the same, get the 1080.


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13 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Overclocked 1070 ti = 1080, I'd go with the cheaper option.

But then again you can overclock the GTX 1080 to get even more performance.

 

As for the OP go with the GTX 1080, at the price difference i would not see point in buying a GTX 1070 ti. 

 

Just look at it this way a GTX 1070 ti is like the 3 GB Variant of GTX 1060 But for GTX 1080. Not talking about actual ram but am talking about performance difference. The GTX 1070 Ti is like a cheaper but a bit less capable GTX 1080. If you are comfortable in buying an inferior product to save a little then its up to you. 


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For the price difference id go 1080, that way you wont have any regret when and if you aren't happy with the performance. Id never put a 70 series card in my rigs. I don't care much for oc'ing as I don't notice much gain on pascal so id rather get the strongest card in my budget.


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26 minutes ago, DeadlyTitan said:

But then again you can overclock the GTX 1080 to get even more performance.

 

As for the OP go with the GTX 1080, at the price difference i would not see point in buying a GTX 1070 ti. 

 

Just look at it this way a GTX 1070 ti is like the 3 GB Variant of GTX 1060 But for GTX 1080. Not talking about actual ram but am talking about performance difference. The GTX 1070 Ti is like a cheaper but a bit less capable GTX 1080. If you are comfortable in buying an inferior product to save a little then its up to you. 

1080 doesn't OC as well, an overclocked 1070 ti vs an overclocked 1080 is essentially identical performance.


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37 minutes ago, DeadlyTitan said:

Just look at it this way a GTX 1070 ti is like the 3 GB Variant of GTX 1060 But for GTX 1080. Not talking about actual ram but am talking about performance difference. The GTX 1070 Ti is like a cheaper but a bit less capable GTX 1080.

not really, the 1060 3gb has 50% less  VRAM and 10% less cuda cores and SM's, as Gamers Nexus showed, that can lead to up to a 30% diffirence in Vulkan titles or 5-10% in others

 

the 1070ti only has 5%less SM's and cuda cores, and for the most part performanc is 0-5% apart and that gap is not only overcome but beaten by simply overclocking

 

theres a reason steve says the 3GB 1060 is the real 1050ti and not worth of being called 1060

 

1070ti is the better option as long its a cheaper non mini card

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6 minutes ago, lefudgelover666 said:

not really, the 1060 3gb has 50% less  VRAM and 10% less cuda cores and SM's, as Gamers Nexus showed, that can lead to up to a 30% diffirence in Vulkan titles or 5-10% in others

 

the 1070ti only has 5%less SM's and cuda cores, and for the most part performanc is 0-5% apart and that gap is not only overcome but beaten by simply overclocking

 

theres a reason steve says the 3GB 1060 is the real 1050ti and not worth of being called 1060

 

1070ti is the better option as long its a cheaper non mini card

I did mentioned that we are not talking about Vram and you yet quoted on me that. 

 

How many titles are out there that support vulkan ? Only 5/6 PC Games that actually shipped with Vulkan (not counting mobile games, i mean sure they are 21 games that support Vulkan but if you want to count candy crush and temple run and subway surfer then yea.), sure that's going to change in future but the difference is generally cause of a combination of lack of Vram and having 10% less cuda cores. 

 

Coming to A GTX 1070 Ti, it is 5% ~ 10% Slower than a GTX 1080 which is why i said its an inferior GTX 1080 with slower memory (GDDR5 vs GDDR5X). Honestly 10% is not major like i mean if you are playing at 1440p (which you should be if you are getting one of these cards) and if you are getting 100 fps then a 10% loss only means you will get 90 FPS instead of 100. 

 

A GTX 1070 Ti is infact an inferior GTX 1080 with slower memory and lesser cuda cores and for the price difference i'd just pick the Gtx 1080 which will in fact run cooler than the Overclocked GTX 1070 Ti which u need to OC to get a GTX 1080 Performance. 

 

 

 

 


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5 hours ago, DeadlyTitan said:

I did mentioned that we are not talking about Vram and you yet quoted on me that. 

 

How many titles are out there that support vulkan ? Only 5/6 PC Games that actually shipped with Vulkan (not counting mobile games, i mean sure they are 21 games that support Vulkan but if you want to count candy crush and temple run and subway surfer then yea.), sure that's going to change in future but the difference is generally cause of a combination of lack of Vram and having 10% less cuda cores. 

 

Coming to A GTX 1070 Ti, it is 5% ~ 10% Slower than a GTX 1080 which is why i said its an inferior GTX 1080 with slower memory (GDDR5 vs GDDR5X). Honestly 10% is not major like i mean if you are playing at 1440p (which you should be if you are getting one of these cards) and if you are getting 100 fps then a 10% loss only means you will get 90 FPS instead of 100. 

 

A GTX 1070 Ti is infact an inferior GTX 1080 with slower memory and lesser cuda cores and for the price difference i'd just pick the Gtx 1080 which will in fact run cooler than the Overclocked GTX 1070 Ti which u need to OC to get a GTX 1080 Performance. 

 

 

 

 

As someone else pointed out, the 1070 ti has more ocing headroom than a 1080, so even if you oc both, the 1070 ti will gain on the 1080 and close the gap some.

 

It will usually surpass stock 1080 performance but come up just shy of the oc 1080. 

 

Which one u get depends on the exact price difference and how comfortable you are with aggressively ocing a gpu long term. Id go 1080 unless the price difference is like 75 or more. 


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20 hours ago, DeadlyTitan said:

I did mentioned that we are not talking about Vram and you yet quoted on me that. 

 

its kind of impossible to not talk vram since available vram makes a massive difference in the size of the framebuffer

 

if these were cars thats like saying "aw yeah theyre both V8's but displacement doesnt matter even though one is 610 cubic inch and the other is 305"

 

or if it were food " aw dude no its okay if you only got a half full cup and the guy in front of you got a full one, theyre the same size cup so its all good

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21 hours ago, Damascus said:

1080 doesn't OC as well, an overclocked 1070 ti vs an overclocked 1080 is essentially identical performance.

Completely wrong. They OC just as well, and the Performance difference between both NOT OCd is also identical to the performance of both OCd to their max.

Plus, the 1080 does have much faster memory bandwidth. This alone ensures, that a 1070 ti will NEVER be able to reach a 1080, if both have the same conditions (both not OC, or both OC)

 

 

So yea. 1080 is around 10-15% faster. How much more % does it cost?

If it's 5-10% more expensive, get the 1080. Better bang for buck.

Does it cost 20-30% more? Get the 1070 ti.

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Then it would be ok, because it's 10-15%.

1-5% is just wrong. Unless you compare an OCd 1070 ti vs. non-OC 1080, which would be retarded.

 

Well ok, more 10% than 15%.

However, definitely NOT less than 5%, let alone 1% lol.

 

Overclocked Custom 1070 ti models are around 5-6% slower than a Founders 1080 (which throttles down because of overheating).

Make it Custom 1070 ti vs. custom 1080, and you get at least 10-12%.

 

Edit: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-8gb,5311-6.html

Just to mention 1 of every single Review, that proves my claim.

 

Exactly 6% more Cuda Cores + more Memory Bandwidth (which also increases gaming performance) = 10-15% more Perforamnce, depending on Games, settings, resolution.

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Posted · Original PosterOP

thank you for all your responses and input if any thing i have learned way too much about GPU’s, i will proberly got with the 1080 for a few months as i have the kids machine to upgrade and get a 1080ti later in the year and pass the 1080 to her rig, lots of things i didn’t include that i have learnt here, this is an amazing place with amazing people that are willing to share all of there knowledge, thanks everyone again for all the input 

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i personally would go with the 1080. not only for the better performance and more mature drivers but to try and discourage nvidia from releasing stupid cards like the 1070ti.

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