Personal opinions on RGB....

[Watashi]

40 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

Motherboards, like the Asus hero and formula has gone up a ton in price with one of the only extra things being RGB. Keyboards like the cm storm, I could without any problems save 30-40$ on a cm storm TKL model, by just going with the pure white led model over a RGB model.

If they offer both models of the keyboard, then I honestly see no issue. And for the motherboard issue, when you say that it's gone up a ton in price, do you mean from last generation to this one?

[Dackzy]

16 minutes ago, Doomerson said:

If they offer both models of the keyboard, then I honestly see no issue. And for the motherboard issue, when you say that it's gone up a ton in price, do you mean from last generation to this one?

This gens hero cost the same as last gens formula, but it is overall lower quality, just with added RGB. For the keyboards, they used to offer a just white led option, but they no longer do.

[Damascus]

2 hours ago, Doomerson said:

I have yet to play with hardline tubing, I feel as though the maintenance will be much more difficult then with a soft tubing loop. I just simply take the block off, hang it, and drain from there.

Yo u don't use a drain?  Hardline is actually a lot easier on maintenance as the tubing doesn't need to be replaced as often

[Crunchy Dragon]

I like RGB, but mostly for the wider range of color combinations so I can more personalize my stuff.

[Watashi]

20 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

This gens hero cost the same as last gens formula, but it is overall lower quality, just with added RGB. For the keyboards, they used to offer a just white led option, but they no longer do.

How so is it a lower quality? do you have any sources?

[Watashi]

13 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Yo u don't use a drain?  Hardline is actually a lot easier on maintenance as the tubing doesn't need to be replaced as often

hmmmm, Maybe I'll have to do hardline then... And In my experience not every little bit comes out with a drain, the case still needs to be tilted and stuff no?

[Drak3]

2 minutes ago, Doomerson said:

How so is it a lower quality? do you have any sources?

Only thing lower quality is the VRM heat sinks, with most current ones being somewhat milled blocks, not fins.

[Mira Yurizaki]

6 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Only thing lower quality is the VRM heat sinks, with most current ones being somewhat milled blocks, not fins.

This is a problem with "gaming" hardware in general. It forgoes function to form, even if it means making inefficient cooling designs.

 

I'm very tempted to replace my motherboard's chipset heat sink with something that actually resembles a heat sink. I mean look at it:

It may as well be a solid block of aluminum for all I care. Great job ASUS. That heat sink is certainly giving me 10% more bogomarks.

[Dackzy]

14 minutes ago, Doomerson said:

How so is it a lower quality? do you have any sources?

You can just look at the VRM setup and all of the caps they use. It is on Asus own website most of it. Hell from memory I remember even the audio being lower quality and if you have ever compared the two in quality IRL, then you would know the hero board feels flimsy.

[Damascus]

44 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

This gens hero cost the same as last gens formula, but it is overall lower quality, just with added RGB. For the keyboards, they used to offer a just white led option, but they no longer do.

Not really...  I you look at the $50 price bump between the rgb and non rgb and then also count for 

A) Inflation

B) Cost of a new socket

 

Asus very clearly makes a price bump between sockets, this is shown with a (larger due to inflation) jump from 289.99 to 329.99.  The rgb is just coincidentally released at the same time.

• Formula II (775) MSRP - 249.99
• Formula III (1156) MSRP - 249.99
• Formula IV doesn't seem to exist

First built in vrm block \/

• Formula V (1155) - MSRP - 289.99 

First implementation of armor and better waterblock

• Formula VI (1150)  MSRP - 329.99

Red ROG logo and better soundcard

• Formula VII (1150) MSRP - 339.99

Rgb out the wazoo

• Formula VIII (1151) MSRP - 389.99
• Formula IX (1151) MSRP - 399.99
• Formula X (1151) MSRP - 409.99

[Damascus]

20 minutes ago, Doomerson said:

hmmmm, Maybe I'll have to do hardline then... And In my experience not every little bit comes out with a drain, the case still needs to be tilted and stuff no?

It doesn't usually for me but I use very easy to flow through tubing.

[Subtle Corruption]

Shit.

[ElZamo92]

I don’t really like the RGB rainbow effect, but the fact that I can chose one of 16.5 million colours is great, and when I’m tired of looking at a shining PC I can turn them off. I wouldn’t buy a component that   has an LED that wasn’t colour matched with my PC but it would be different if that LED was RGB. 

[Watashi]

31 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Only thing lower quality is the VRM heat sinks, with most current ones being somewhat milled blocks, not fins.

I can't imagine that has much to do with RGB.....

[Watashi]

16 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

You can just look at the VRM setup and all of the caps they use. It is on Asus own website most of it. Hell from memory I remember even the audio being lower quality and if you have ever compared the two in quality IRL, then you would know the hero board feels flimsy.

well I'm just not familiar with what makes things like a quality VRM and capacitor.

[Drak3]

1 hour ago, Doomerson said:

I can't imagine that has much to do with RGB.....

Look at boards like the X99 Gaming Pro Carbon, the heat sink was designed to accomodate RGB, though with a fan, it's good enough fir some overclocking.

[zoraiz]

3 hours ago, Doomerson said:

I think you're right, personally I haven't seen very many good examples of parts featuring RGB LEDs actually being more expensive.

Thank you for clearing that up I was not 100 % sure on the fact I must add however if instead of focusing on rgb builds maybe the asus msi corsair of the world can fouces on demanding and helping companies such as Nvidia and AMD to make new products for the price of old ones can drop and these old ones will still be magnificent so more people can financially make better builds.

[Watashi]

6 hours ago, Drak3 said:

Look at boards like the X99 Gaming Pro Carbon, the heat sink was designed to accomodate RGB, though with a fan, it's good enough fir some overclocking.

Seems like more of a design issue then RGB as a problem. Not RGB lightnings fault as a whole. Although I understand the logic: Company cuts costs to provide a feature that they know many people enjoy, effectively trading performance for aesthetics. But I think both things can be fit onto the board with little to no price increase. 

[Skanky Sylveon]

If done tastefully, i'm fine with it.

I pay more for RGB keyboards because color coordinating certain keys does have some advantages.

I wont pay more for RGB RAM though.

[adamgasth]

Im just curious

[minibois]

I would say around four or so years ago, when peripherals first started incorporating RGB lighting in them.

The first keyboards I remember with it were Corsair's K70 RGB boards.

 

Some other manufacturer may have been earlier to the game, but those are the first I recall.

[mr moose]

Don't know about the LED stuff but the neon lighting has been a thing since forever.

[CerberusFlame99]

10 minutes ago, Minibois said:

I would say around four or so years ago, when peripherals first started incorporating RGB lighting in them.

The first keyboards I remember with it were Corsair's K70 RGB boards.

 

Some other manufacturer may have been earlier to the game, but those are the first I recall.

Yeah lol. I remember when literally every keyboard manufacturer came out with an RGB mechanical keyboard during CES when Cherry finally came out with a switch that had LEDs small enough to incorporate all three colors.

[minibois]

Just now, CerberusFlame99 said:

Yeah lol. I remember when literally every keyboard manufacturer came out with an RGB mechanical keyboard during CES when Cherry finally came out with a switch that had LEDs small enough to incorporate all three colors.

Didn't Corsair have exclusive access to Cherry MX RGB switches for a while? I just kinda remembered that after reading your post.

[CerberusFlame99]

4 minutes ago, Minibois said:

Didn't Corsair have exclusive access to Cherry MX RGB switches for a while? I just kinda remembered that after reading your post.

They did but that was also around the time that Cherry's patent ended and a bunch of companies were able to release their own versions of cherry like switches