Unscientific opinion gathering: Do you consider TF2 an esport title

[1re]

I'm biased here, I don't claim to be a pro but i have been following the scene, as well as csgo for a couple of years now and was wondering how we as tf2 competitive, are seen by mainstream esports.

 

Some background if you're not familiar.

• TF2 comp scene has been around in one state or another since the release of the game 10 years ago.

• The main competitive leauges are

     • NA

          • ESEA Invite

          • UGC 6s (generally less serious)

     • EU/UK

           • ETF2L

     • AUS

           • OZFORTRESS

Lan highlights are

• Insomnia events (when NA/AUS teams are able to attend)

• ESA Rewind

• Gamers Assembly

• DreamHack Winter/Summer

 

Coverage is mainly on teamfortress.tv

 

I'm just curious as to what others think.

 

thanks for your time, ire

[JustAStrangeGeek]

I don't consider tf2 an esport title. Even though the game is fun. I just can't see over 10 people playing tf2 to get like $1,000,000.

[Bananasplit_00]

Does it have at least a semi pro league? Then yes. 

[1re]

15 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

Does it have at least a semi pro league? Then yes. 

Yes, ESEA invite/ETF2L is our main leauges

[Bananasplit_00]

10 minutes ago, 1re said:

Yes, ESEA invite/ETF2L is our main leauges

Then I consider it an esport

[Dissitesuxba11s]

Since by definition, esports is a competition between professional players using video games for a certain prize, then yes. 

[LogicalDrm]

It is eSports game. While it's scene has died and many top pros have gone to bigger coverage and tournaments (Overwatch), it's still eSports title same way some other smaller games are.

 

It's all Valve's fault that TF2 is so small and OW rules. They had active community to work with, but choose quick money with crates and hats instead. By the time Dota and LoL crafted working balance between money flow and how community is taken care of, TF2 had already vanished from top leagues and tournaments.

[Trentonxx]

as everything: it depends..

 

Some of the older maps are very balanced and given some item/weapons limitation it can be considered "level ground" ie: very few variables in play and only player skill, map awareness and strategy will result in a win.

I also think it's a bit easier to grasp the mechanics and gameplay for non-gamers, while Overwatch is a continue Nerf-Buff that doesn't create a solid building block for teams (imagine playing chess where they change the piece moveset every year.. )

for me an e-sports HAS to be "Locked" in a state, where no more fixing is allowed (unless exploits are found out, like that time on CS they jumped on eachothers for sniping accross the map lol)  so that even if there is a "Meta" it still going to depend on skill and strategy rather than luck (like for some card games or PUBG)

[tuckerdoodle]

i think it could have been an esport game but it has been to long and i think the competitive scene isnt there

[PlayStation 2]

Welp, the thread's revived, so I might as well give some input.

For leagues really pressed hard by the developers, no, it wouldn't be an eSport.

But as for leagues that are officially recognized (ETF2L, for example, there's even Genuine quality badges for that alongside a number of other comp leagues for, at the very least, participation usually), then I would. It's just not one heavily pressed by Valve, because, as it is, CS and Dota rakes in significantly more money and viewership in that realm than TF does. I'd argue it's more of an orgainzed eSport game than Overwatch is, especially considering how people who usually come out of leagues are either gods at one class or are great at others usually played in the leagues. Usually, it's Scout, Soldier or Sniper, but I digress. It encourages using more classes more than OW comp could, I guess.

[PlayStation 2]

On 7/20/2018 at 12:49 PM, CUDAcores89 said:

I don't care.

 

why am I here again?

probably because I replied

[Guest]

11 hours ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

probably because I replied

Thats why I'm here