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Do graphic artifacts necessarily mean damage to the GPU?

Ilan Yakov
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2 minutes ago, Ilan Yakov said:

Makes sense.. but I don't know. Isn't there a final absolute answer to this?

The damage will be very light, if any. The Sparkle GTS 250 is known to be a card with artefacts showing up more than often even at factory clock speeds. You can still find some of them in the used market though despite being so old, so this doesnt seem to hurt the card very much if at all.

I started mining Ethereum a while ago with my 1080 and I noticed that when I add +900MHz (5508MHz) to the MEM clock speed (while mining of course), it is stable and I see no artifacts no matter what.

When I add +950MHz, 50MHz more, (5562MHz) which actually adds an extra MH/s, only when I watch youtube videos while mining, I can see artifacts and still, barely if at all.

 

So.. do graphic artifacts necessarily mean that my GPU is being damaged by the high clock speed? Does the amount of artifacts matter or say anything about the "amount of damage"?

Thanks.

 

(If you cannot understand why I add so much to the Memory clock and the speed still stays relatively low,, it's because while mining, Pascal GPUs will downclock the MEM speed by -500MHz.)

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Artifacts pretty much mean back down the OC a bit. Also try turning off hw acceleration in whatever browser you're using to fix that

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It isn't damaging the GPU, but it means you need to turn the OC down to remove them.

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9 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

Artifacts pretty much mean back down the OC a bit. Also try turning off hw acceleration in whatever browser you're using to fix that

So disabling HW acceleration might fix the artifacts while watching YouTube and mining?

6 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

It isn't damaging the GPU, but it means you need to turn the OC down to remove them.

Well okay, but why should I actually? Possible instability? I mean, if it is not damaging the GPU then why not leave it like this for mining?

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Just now, Ilan Yakov said:

So disabling HW acceleration might fix the artifacts while watching YouTube and mining?

Well okay, but why should I actually? and why? Possible instability? I mean, if it is not damaging the GPU then why not leave it like this for mining?

Yeah disable HW acceleration so its not using your GPU to push the video on screen. My Fury can be in the mid 60's with like 2% usage when watching YT and i'm sure thats not good for mining lol. And yes artifacts mean something is no longer stable and it COULD cause a crash, or it could lightly artifact and NEVER crash for the next 5 years straight. I'd tone it down 50mhz and forget that there was a problem tho

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2 minutes ago, Ilan Yakov said:

So disabling HW acceleration might fix the artifacts while watching YouTube and mining?

Well okay, but why should I actually? and why? Possible instability? I mean, if it is not damaging the GPU then why not leave it like this for mining?

Artifacts are a sign of instability.

If you wanna leave it how it is that's up to you, personally i wouldnt want artifacts when im trying to enjoy my youtube videos though.

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6 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

Artifacts are a sign of instability.

If you wanna leave it how it is that's up to you, personally i wouldnt want artifacts when im trying to enjoy my youtube videos though.

The thing is that as I already mentioned, I can barely see any, like about every 5 minutes and only a tiny pixel. Again, if I notice at all.

I'm actually just curious about it, generally.

 

So, in conclusion, the only thing artifacts mean is instability? No damage at all?

I guess it is important so no, I did not change any voltage setting or tweaked my BIOS. Only the MEM clock speed.

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Just think about making someone run till they feel dizzy and want to vomit. Does that sound good to their health?

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10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Just think about making someone run till they feel dizzy and want to vomit. Does that sound good to their health?

Makes sense.. but I don't know. Isn't there a final absolute answer to this?

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2 minutes ago, Ilan Yakov said:

Makes sense.. but I don't know. Isn't there a final absolute answer to this?

The damage will be very light, if any. The Sparkle GTS 250 is known to be a card with artefacts showing up more than often even at factory clock speeds. You can still find some of them in the used market though despite being so old, so this doesnt seem to hurt the card very much if at all.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

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42 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

Yeah disable HW acceleration so its not using your GPU to push the video on screen. My Fury can be in the mid 60's with like 2% usage when watching YT and i'm sure thats not good for mining lol. And yes artifacts mean something is no longer stable and it COULD cause a crash, or it could lightly artifact and NEVER crash for the next 5 years straight. I'd tone it down 50mhz and forget that there was a problem tho

After disabling HW acceleration, Chrome works way smoother and not only while watching YouTube videos but even while just surfing!

Thanks!

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  • 3 years later...
On 12/20/2017 at 4:27 PM, Ilan Yakov said:

The thing is that as I already mentioned, I can barely see any, like about every 5 minutes and only a tiny pixel. Again, if I notice at all.

I'm actually just curious about it, generally.

 

So, in conclusion, the only thing artifacts mean is instability? No damage at all?

I guess it is important so no, I did not change any voltage setting or tweaked my BIOS. Only the MEM clock speed.

Artifacting means instability, often meaning incorrect results. Mining with an unstable OC would return stale/rejected shares so often it wouldn't be profitable.

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