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Building a mid-ranged gaming rig

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hey guys,

Yesterday I seem to have burned through my Nvidia 870M GPU, which is built into my C504 Schenker Notebook.

Since it is integrated onto the motherboard, as far as I know, it's not replaceable and I will have to buy a new setup.

This time I want to get a desktop PC since the portability is not worth the price, atleast for me.

I don't know too much about which motherboard works with which GPU and CPU so I'm seeking your guys' help.

1. Budget & Location

 

 I'm from Germany, as you might have noticed by my English.

I plan to use a budget of something between 1000-1200€.

I would want to rescue a Samsung Evo 850 (250GB) from my old rig, so I wont be needing that in the new build.

 

2. Aim

I will be using this build mainly for gaming. The games I play are mainly stuff like CS:GO, LoL, PUBG and DotA 2 (I guess as mainstream as it gets)

I don't put too much emphasis on the way things look but of course I cannot get enough FPS.

Therefore, I aim to have a Nvidia 1070 or another similar GPU in my rig (if that fits into the budget).

I also was interested in the Intel i5-8400 but I'm not sure either if I can afford it with my budget.

I don't care at all about any RGB stuff or how the case of the PC looks. Functionality > Looks.

 

3. Monitors

The monitor I use is a newly bought Asus VG248qE (24", 144Hz) and I'm not necessarily looking forward to buying a extra monitor.

 

4. Peripherals

I don't need any other peripherals since I'm happy with my Logitech G19 (yes that still works), my HyperX Cloud II and my Roccat Savu.

 

5. Why are you upgrading?

I'm almost certain that my GPU is broken and due to the notebook I'm using, its not possible to change the GPU.

The rest of the laptop works fine, so I would try to sell it for 200-300€, which I might be adding to my budget.

 

 

I hope someone can help me with my situation and I'm looking forward to my new setup.

 

Thanks in advance to anyone helping!

Merry Christmas in advance ;)

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  (€239.99 @ ARLT) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€111.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€179.99 @ ARLT) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€42.05 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Mini Video Card  (€479.00 @ Caseking) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox MB600L ATX Mid Tower Case  (€55.52 @ Mindfactory) 
Power Supply: Corsair - Vengeance 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1178.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-12 16:18 CET+0100


CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700@3.8Ghz Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Sapphire RX 5700 XT RAM: Qidian DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Biostar X370GT7 case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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Just now, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  (€239.99 @ ARLT) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€111.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€179.99 @ ARLT) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€42.05 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Mini Video Card  (€479.00 @ Caseking) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox MB600L ATX Mid Tower Case  (€55.52 @ Mindfactory) 
Power Supply: Corsair - Vengeance 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1178.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-12 16:18 CET+0100

I wouldn't go for coffee lake just yet - not a Ryzen fanboy, but I would either get ryzen now if you're impatient to get started, or wait until Intel releases cheaper MoBo's.

 

If you are going for coffee lake, I wouldnt get the 1070 ti. Get a 1070 and squeeze as much money from the difference between the 1070/1070 ti on perhaps a 8th gen i7.

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1 minute ago, CyberC7 said:

I wouldn't go for coffee lake just yet - not a Ryzen fanboy, but I would either get ryzen now if you're impatient to get started, or wait until Intel releases cheaper MoBo's.

 

If you are going for coffee lake, I wouldnt get the 1070 ti. Get a 1070 and squeeze as much money from the difference between the 1070/1070 ti on perhaps a 8th gen i7.

For high refresh rate gaming, the 8400 will beat any Ryzen, in most cases. Getting a Z370 motherboard, since he can afford it will improve the longevity of the motherboard; he can eventually get a higher end CPU from the used market.

The difference between the 1070 and Ti is ~€50, the difference between an 8400 and an 8700K is closer to €200. 


 

Quote

Women. They are a complete mystery.

-Stephen Hawking

 

I think the hoomans put their builds here?

Why do you hoomans give your builds a name? Here's my build, which I shall call "Do as I Say, Not As I Do" (seriously, don't get this build)

Spoiler

Ryzen 1500X @3,925 GHz

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo + 2x ML120

MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic

2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 MHz CL15 (Micron B-die) @2933 MHz

Sapphire Radeon R9 280 Dual-X @1120 MHz / 1450 MHz

120GB 850 Evo

120GB Kingston SSD

500GB WD Blue

Cooler Master Elite 430

Seasonic Prime Titanium 650W

Logitech G710 with Kailh Box Jade

Logitech G502

HyperX Cloud

And my laptop, which I shall call "If It's Stupid But It Works" (It can actually play CS:GO at 50 FPS, and Civ V at 25 FPS)

Spoiler

Lenovo Thinkpad L460

Intel Core i3 6100U

4GB (probably) DDR4 2133 MHz

Intel HD Graphics 520 0.3-1.0 GHz

128GB Samsung MZ7LF128HCHP

Corsair M65 Pro RGB (worst mouse I've ever had)

Sennheiser CX 5.00G

And here would be where I would put a picture of my cat. But apparently, images are not allowed here. So take this instead (*ΦωΦ*)

Hello fellow night theme users

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23 minutes ago, n33m said:

Hey guys,

Yesterday I seem to have burned through my Nvidia 870M GPU, which is built into my C504 Schenker Notebook.

Since it is integrated onto the motherboard, as far as I know, it's not replaceable and I will have to buy a new setup.

This time I want to get a desktop PC since the portability is not worth the price, atleast for me.

I don't know too much about which motherboard works with which GPU and CPU so I'm seeking your guys' help.

1. Budget & Location

 

 I'm from Germany, as you might have noticed by my English.

I plan to use a budget of something between 1000-1200€.

I would want to rescue a Samsung Evo 850 (250GB) from my old rig, so I wont be needing that in the new build.

 

2. Aim

I will be using this build mainly for gaming. The games I play are mainly stuff like CS:GO, LoL, PUBG and DotA 2 (I guess as mainstream as it gets)

I don't put too much emphasis on the way things look but of course I cannot get enough FPS.

Therefore, I aim to have a Nvidia 1070 or another similar GPU in my rig (if that fits into the budget).

I also was interested in the Intel i5-8400 but I'm not sure either if I can afford it with my budget.

I don't care at all about any RGB stuff or how the case of the PC looks. Functionality > Looks.

 

3. Monitors

The monitor I use is a newly bought Asus VG248qE (24", 144Hz) and I'm not necessarily looking forward to buying a extra monitor.

 

4. Peripherals

I don't need any other peripherals since I'm happy with my Logitech G19 (yes that still works), my HyperX Cloud II and my Roccat Savu.

 

5. Why are you upgrading?

I'm almost certain that my GPU is broken and due to the notebook I'm using, its not possible to change the GPU.

The rest of the laptop works fine, so I would try to sell it for 200-300€, which I might be adding to my budget.

 

 

I hope someone can help me with my situation and I'm looking forward to my new setup.

 

Thanks in advance to anyone helping!

Merry Christmas in advance ;)

PHANTEKS Eclipse P300

Intel Core i5-7600K

Antec Mercury 240

Team Group T-Force Vulcan

INNO3D GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Twin X2

Thermaltake Smart SE Netzteil, semi-modular - 530 Watt

ASRock Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming K4

 

or

you could switch CPU mobo with this 

Biostar Z370GT6

Intel Core i5-8600K


ask me about your system builds, AIO's, CPU's, PSU's, and GPU's.

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I'd squeez in a 8600k since it's a Z370 board anyway and for gaming i7 or i5 barely matters with coffee lake and if a 1070ti fits the budget go for the ti.

You'll still need an OS too.

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  (€273.59 @ Alza) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (€36.51 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€111.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€152.74 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€42.05 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Mini Video Card  (€479.00 @ Caseking) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€49.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Corsair - Vengeance 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1215.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-12 16:33 CET+0100

 


Desktop

CPUi5-6600K MotherboardGigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P CPU Cooler: Thermalright True Spirit 120M Black/white RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB DDR4 2400Mhz GPU: Gigabyte 1070 HDDs: 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 RPM  SSDSamsung EVO 850 500GB PSU: Coolermaster 550W 80+ Gold Case: NZXT S340 (White) with a white led strip ;)

Laptops

Dell 7577

CPUi7 7700HQ RAM: 16 GB DDR4 2400Mhz GPU: GTX1060 Max-q HDD: 1TB 5400 RPM  SSDNVMe 512GB SCREEN: 4k IPS 15.6"

Macbook pro 2018

CPUi7 RAM: 16 GB DDR4 2400Mhz GPU: Radeon Pro 555X 4GB Storage256GB SCREEN: 15"

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1 minute ago, EG! said:

Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€152.56 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

The RAM has the wrong price listed. €230

Why the CXM when the Vengeance costs the same?


 

Quote

Women. They are a complete mystery.

-Stephen Hawking

 

I think the hoomans put their builds here?

Why do you hoomans give your builds a name? Here's my build, which I shall call "Do as I Say, Not As I Do" (seriously, don't get this build)

Spoiler

Ryzen 1500X @3,925 GHz

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo + 2x ML120

MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic

2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 MHz CL15 (Micron B-die) @2933 MHz

Sapphire Radeon R9 280 Dual-X @1120 MHz / 1450 MHz

120GB 850 Evo

120GB Kingston SSD

500GB WD Blue

Cooler Master Elite 430

Seasonic Prime Titanium 650W

Logitech G710 with Kailh Box Jade

Logitech G502

HyperX Cloud

And my laptop, which I shall call "If It's Stupid But It Works" (It can actually play CS:GO at 50 FPS, and Civ V at 25 FPS)

Spoiler

Lenovo Thinkpad L460

Intel Core i3 6100U

4GB (probably) DDR4 2133 MHz

Intel HD Graphics 520 0.3-1.0 GHz

128GB Samsung MZ7LF128HCHP

Corsair M65 Pro RGB (worst mouse I've ever had)

Sennheiser CX 5.00G

And here would be where I would put a picture of my cat. But apparently, images are not allowed here. So take this instead (*ΦωΦ*)

Hello fellow night theme users

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hey thanks everybody for all the quick answers!

You're definitely helping me a lot, but it seems like a hard choice in that price range ;).

 

About the OS, I'm a student and get it for free from my university but thanks for pointing that out!

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Just now, seon123 said:

The RAM has the wrong price listed. €230

Why the CXM when the Vengeance costs the same?

There I fixed it xD where do you find correct RAM pricings then?

 


Desktop

CPUi5-6600K MotherboardGigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P CPU Cooler: Thermalright True Spirit 120M Black/white RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB DDR4 2400Mhz GPU: Gigabyte 1070 HDDs: 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 RPM  SSDSamsung EVO 850 500GB PSU: Coolermaster 550W 80+ Gold Case: NZXT S340 (White) with a white led strip ;)

Laptops

Dell 7577

CPUi7 7700HQ RAM: 16 GB DDR4 2400Mhz GPU: GTX1060 Max-q HDD: 1TB 5400 RPM  SSDNVMe 512GB SCREEN: 4k IPS 15.6"

Macbook pro 2018

CPUi7 RAM: 16 GB DDR4 2400Mhz GPU: Radeon Pro 555X 4GB Storage256GB SCREEN: 15"

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1 minute ago, EG! said:

There I fixed it xD where do you find correct RAM pricings then?

 

By clicking the Amazon link. PCPP is a bit broken with Amazon


 

Quote

Women. They are a complete mystery.

-Stephen Hawking

 

I think the hoomans put their builds here?

Why do you hoomans give your builds a name? Here's my build, which I shall call "Do as I Say, Not As I Do" (seriously, don't get this build)

Spoiler

Ryzen 1500X @3,925 GHz

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo + 2x ML120

MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic

2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 MHz CL15 (Micron B-die) @2933 MHz

Sapphire Radeon R9 280 Dual-X @1120 MHz / 1450 MHz

120GB 850 Evo

120GB Kingston SSD

500GB WD Blue

Cooler Master Elite 430

Seasonic Prime Titanium 650W

Logitech G710 with Kailh Box Jade

Logitech G502

HyperX Cloud

And my laptop, which I shall call "If It's Stupid But It Works" (It can actually play CS:GO at 50 FPS, and Civ V at 25 FPS)

Spoiler

Lenovo Thinkpad L460

Intel Core i3 6100U

4GB (probably) DDR4 2133 MHz

Intel HD Graphics 520 0.3-1.0 GHz

128GB Samsung MZ7LF128HCHP

Corsair M65 Pro RGB (worst mouse I've ever had)

Sennheiser CX 5.00G

And here would be where I would put a picture of my cat. But apparently, images are not allowed here. So take this instead (*ΦωΦ*)

Hello fellow night theme users

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Just now, seon123 said:

By clicking the Amazon link. PCPP is a bit broken with Amazon

The ram I picked this time is broken too so don't look at the ram in my pcpp xD
So I'm well over the max budget then with a 8600k and a decent cooler.


Desktop

CPUi5-6600K MotherboardGigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P CPU Cooler: Thermalright True Spirit 120M Black/white RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB DDR4 2400Mhz GPU: Gigabyte 1070 HDDs: 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 RPM  SSDSamsung EVO 850 500GB PSU: Coolermaster 550W 80+ Gold Case: NZXT S340 (White) with a white led strip ;)

Laptops

Dell 7577

CPUi7 7700HQ RAM: 16 GB DDR4 2400Mhz GPU: GTX1060 Max-q HDD: 1TB 5400 RPM  SSDNVMe 512GB SCREEN: 4k IPS 15.6"

Macbook pro 2018

CPUi7 RAM: 16 GB DDR4 2400Mhz GPU: Radeon Pro 555X 4GB Storage256GB SCREEN: 15"

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hey guys,

 

After reviewing the tips you posted, I have a question about the RAM.

How much of a difference does the higher tickrate of 3000 MHz do compared to smth like a 2133 MHz one.

Also someone recomended a CPU Cooler, will it be needed that much?

 

Thanks !

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