Intel Annouced new Celeron and Pentium Gold and Silver CPUs

[Tech22]

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Intel announced new Pentium and Celeron Silver processors. Intel issued a product change notification last month that outlined plans to change the existing Pentium lineup over to Gold branding, but today the company expanded the lineup to include Silver models and also unveiled six new processors.

The Pentium Gold processors are already on the market and include the Kaby Lake G4560 and 4620. Those processors marked the debut of Hyper-Threading with Intel's Pentium lineup. We expect Intel to add Coffee Lake models to the Pentium Gold lineup, possibly with more cores to fend off AMD's APUs, in the near future.

The new Pentium and Celeron Silver SoCs feature the Gemini Lake architecture, which replaces the Apollo Lake lineup. The new processors address the mobile and desktop space, so they encompass laptops, 2-in-1s, all-in-one PCs, mini-PCs, and desktops. Intel claims the new processors offer 58% more performance in productivity applications compared to four-year-old PCs, which is roughly the update cadence for this class of processor.

Personally, I don't think this needs a new name-scheme. Claiming a 58% performance improvement to 4 year old PCs seems pretty exaggerated to me as intel higher-end CPUs haven't really made a  58% improvement over the last 4 years. Both desktop and mobile skus are launching and the pentium silver J5005 desktop model is only a 10W chip, which while is amazing, also is probably a little exaggerated. The J5005 features a 1.5Ghz base and a 2.7Ghz boost. These clocks seem a little low for a desktop CPU in 2017/2018. While this does seem neat, if the pricing is more expensive or even equal to the G4560/G4600, this doesn't look very good for a desktop processor - especially if the CPU requires a coffee-lake series of motherboards. The Pentium gold does already include the G4560 and G4620, but this may cause retailers to increase price over new naming scheme, etc, making more uninformed consumers think it is new/better for price. They also seem to be boasting faster download speeds of an 8GB HD movie in 1 minute with Intel (new) 9560 AC opposed to 802.11 BGN in 10 minutes, and 2X faster downloads compared to a 2x2 802.11 AC. Seems a little exaggerated, once again. Let's just hope Intel solders these

 

Article from Tom's Hardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-pentium-celeron-gold-silver,36099.html 

Article from Intel: https://newsroom.intel.com/news/introducing-new-intel-pentium-silver-intel-celeron-processors/ 

[iRileyx]

They're probably comparing 4 year old top line pentiums to current top line pentiums for that 58% increase, which thanks to the new ones having hyperthreading and the slight generational performance increases, does sound about right.

[Tech22]

Just now, RKRiley said:

They're probably comparing 4 year old top line pentiums to current top line pentiums for that 58% increase, which thanks to the new ones having hyperthreading, does sound about right.

Possibly, but marketing claims are usually put out of proportion. 

[Guest]

I would like to see AMD bring back the Athlon in response to this.

[MaxBunny]

5 minutes ago, Tech22 said:

Pentium lineup over to Gold branding, but today the company expanded the lineup to include Silver models and also unveiled six new processors.

Will we be able to trade between the 2 versions? And will it be backwards compatible with red/blue/green/yellow Pentiums?

[iRileyx]

Just now, RorzNZ said:

I would like to see AMD bring back the Athlon in response to this.

They kinda already did... http://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/7th-gen-amd-athlon-x4-950

Though it's still based on the Bulldozer architecture, just made into an AM4 socket. Presumably they'll release Zen versions at some point.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

They kinda already did... http://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/7th-gen-amd-athlon-x4-950

Though it's still based on the Bulldozer architecture, just made into an AM4 socket. Presumably they'll release Zen versions at some point.

Zen Athlon would mean total destruction of all Intel competition at that price point

[porina]

These are atom class CPUs aren't they? Performance wise they'll suck regardless. The only real selling point for them is low price. Well, they're low power too, but the low performance isn't likely to give a good performance per watt level.

[Nicnac]

1 minute ago, porina said:

These are atom class CPUs aren't they? Performance wise they'll suck regardless. The only real selling point for them is low price. Well, they're low power too, but the low performance isn't likely to give a good performance per watt level.

Miners love the new pentiums for their perf/watt and general ultra-low wattage

[Princess Luna]

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[Guest]

9 hours ago, Tech22 said:

Intel (new) 9560 AC

First news I've heard about it in the past year beyond it having a product page! Since they are boasting about it now, does that mean they are integrating it into Pentiums? If not, I would see no point in them adding it to their marketing beyond misleading customers since a) OEMs could have a different wireless adapter on board and b) other, older laptops/desktop processors/boards could support them whether in the M.2 2230 form factor or soldered on with the M.2 1216 standard.

 

Edit: Ok, I stand corrected. It seems that the Intel 9560 uses the CNVio protocol to connect over the m.2 port and behaves as a CRF (Companion RF) module while needing a CNVi block (On the processor) to work. Sad to see this come to fruition as I like being able to use newer adapters (Though all the 9560 brings over the 8265 is BT 5 and 160MHz channels), at least the 9260 (Practically the same as the 9560, but doesn't need a CNVi block to work) supports regular M.2 ports using the regular PCIe/USB protocol. (Source)

Image to show why they supposedly choose this path (In the name of power savings!!! Or something like that)

Spoiler

Edit 2: The more that I think about it, with the MAC address being tied to the UEFI and some crucial components being moved to the processor, it urks me more knowing that the IME could potentially have greater control over networking.

Edited December 12, 2017 by Guest
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[Bit_Guardian]

8 hours ago, porina said:

These are atom class CPUs aren't they? Performance wise they'll suck regardless. The only real selling point for them is low price. Well, they're low power too, but the low performance isn't likely to give a good performance per watt level.

Nope. These are the top end, so it's still Coffeelake, but without any AVX stuff available.

[porina]

2 hours ago, Bit_Guardian said:

Nope. These are the top end, so it's still Coffeelake, but without any AVX stuff available.

The Silver models just announced are Gemini Lake as far as I can tell.

[Trixanity]

2 hours ago, porina said:

The Silver models just announced are Gemini Lake as far as I can tell.

Yup. Gold SKUs are Core processors and Silver SKUs are Atom processors. Clever marketing. Sounds like you're kinda getting the same product at different price points.

[Matu20]

Do these actually have a use case in any markets?

[Trixanity]

3 hours ago, Matu20 said:

Do these actually have a use case in any markets?

Fanless designs. Cheaper than Core processors. Budget devices. The usual.