Ryzen on 12nm might get a 50% core increase

[mynameisjuan]

So.......still waiting on people that are able to make full use of all the cores anyway. And dont give me a bullshit reason of rendering or editing. Most people dont use more than 3-4 cores. I mean adding more cores is not necessarily a bad thing just saying most wont tell a difference from the chips they are already using. 

[cj09beira]

Just now, mynameisjuan said:

So.......still waiting on people that are able to make full use of all the cores anyway. And dont give me a bullshit reason of rendering or editing. Most people dont use more than 3-4 cores. 

you need high core counts to get good scores for hwbot benchmarks  

[RunsWindowsOnMac]

if this is the case i'll borrow some cash from my folks to finally buy a new rig. the hype is getting pretty ridiculous.

[Jon Jon]

I wonder how real this is.

 

Would be nice to actually begin to saturate my Noctua cooler.

 

My R7 1700 at 4Ghz barely pushes it to 71C on a SILENT fan profile.

 

If we are talking that kind of performance, it's tempting to swap out the 1700 for sure.

[Princess Luna]

1 hour ago, Jon Jon said:

 

Yes issue is with the silicon itself... I don't know Ryzen+ seems way too appealing, what happens to Threadripper if this r7 2800x is real? more cores, more frequency and at least same IPC altogether seems a really huge promise I'm particularly not ready to believe AMD is going to pull.

[Crunchy Dragon]

8 hours ago, Jade said:

Fewer fast cores > many mediocre cores.

Isn't this how Intel was able to beat the FX series CPUs?

[Streetguru]

8 hours ago, cj09beira said:

 

The slides are obviously fake, but I want to believe very much that they're real.

[Streetguru]

8 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Isn't this how Intel was able to beat the FX series CPUs?

Well, FX tied the i7s in multi-threaded performance sometimes didn't it?
Was truly a joke for running most games though.

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Well, FX tied the i7s in multi-threaded performance sometimes didn't it?
Was truly a joke for running most games though.

Sometimes, but even some i5s had better multithreaded performance than even the 8350.

I would never buy an FX for gaming lol

[ARikozuM]

9 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Sometimes, but even some i5s had better multithreaded performance than even the 8350.

I would never buy an FX for gaming lol

The majority of games at the time used 2-4 cores and games (content creation as well, except rendering) rely on single-threaded performance vs just a clean multi-threaded score. This is why Intel's IPC and clock speed trumped AMD's multiple weaker cores in those dark days. 

 

Then the 9590 came and cemented our disappointment in AMD AM3+...

[suits]

Really have no real pressing need for more than 8 cores. Hopefully they can get the IPC and clocks up.

[The Benjamins]

I was the one that called the 12c mainstream. even if they only got a 0.5 Ghz clock bump on no core count increase that is a nice bump. but a 0.8 Ghz bump + the 4 more cores is amazing.

[The Benjamins]

 

 

has this been posted?

 

a 236 on SC and 855 on multi on a leaked 2300X is AMAZING, BETTER sc then intel.

 

 

2 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Yes issue is with the silicon itself... I don't know Ryzen+ seems way too appealing, what happens to Threadripper if this r7 2800x is real? more cores, more frequency and at least same IPC altogether seems a really huge promise I'm particularly not ready to believe AMD is going to pull.

 

Then TR4 will see over 4.6 Ghz at up to 24 cores

[Notional]

 

Damn. The core count is insane enough as it is, but 4.5Ghz to 5.1Ghz? Holy mother of silicon! That's Intel levels! And guaranteed speeds for each model too! Too put it into perspective, it's more than 25% perf. increase per core on clock rate alone. 

 

Of course, it could be an elaborate fake, but if it isn't. Man.

[Kamina]

I guess it makes sense if they're trying to compete with Intel's 9th gen 8-core.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, Kamina said:

I guess it makes sense if they're trying to compete with Intel's 9th gen 8-core.

Aside the fact they are releasing a whole 7 months ealier than Intel... damn... starting to have second thoughts on the i7 8700... I wonder if its worth it wait for the 2800x now... hehe should make a thread about it tomorrow.

[leadeater]

4 hours ago, mynameisjuan said:

So.......still waiting on people that are able to make full use of all the cores anyway. And dont give me a bullshit reason of rendering or editing. Most people dont use more than 3-4 cores. I mean adding more cores is not necessarily a bad thing just saying most wont tell a difference from the chips they are already using. 

Galactic Civilization 3, I need those late game turn times as fast as possible. More cores!! 

[leadeater]

36 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

has this been posted?

a 236 on SC and 855 on multi on a leaked 2300X is AMAZING, BETTER sc then intel.

Then TR4 will see over 4.6 Ghz at up to 24 cores

AMD beating Intel this early with SC....

 

 

[Brehohn]

I swear. If this new Ryzen CPU truly has double the amount of cores, comparable thermals (yeah right, but one can dream), stability, and same or better single threaded performance, I'm in.

[Phate.exe]

9 hours ago, RKRiley said:

A 12 core like that 2800x, running at 5.1Ghz.. i wouldn't like to see the power draw on that lmao. Though it'd only be on one core presumably.

Probably uses about as much as my Phenom II 6 core at 4.1GHz.  Which is a lot.

[ApolloFury]

Remember:

14nm LPP = Low Power Plus

12nm LP = Leading Performance

EDIT: Removed quote, accidentally put in.

[ApolloFury]

9 hours ago, MyName13 said:

More than 8 cores would be pointless at the same price range, those who need all these cores buy expensive i9s and threadrippers.

Um why? Indie game developers and small time content creators should not need to buy HEDT. Blender, Substance Painter and Unity hammers all cores when baking, having more cores on consumer side while also improving single thread is only a good thing.

5 hours ago, mynameisjuan said:

So.......still waiting on people that are able to make full use of all the cores anyway. And dont give me a bullshit reason of rendering or editing. Most people dont use more than 3-4 cores. I mean adding more cores is not necessarily a bad thing just saying most wont tell a difference from the chips they are already using. 

That backwards thinking is the reason why we were stuck on quad cores for a long time. We also have recent games from EA, Ubisoft and Bethesda beginning to scale with more cores so its no longer exclusively for rendering or editing.

[Linus Tech Tits]

I believe I saw this kind of news more than 20 times  since ryzen launched...

[DildorTheDecent]

10 hours ago, Armakar said:

on the 8700k a 5ghz oc is pretty easy

Yup... Too n00b friendly. 

Still, 

 

Get it benched if you haven't already. 

[PETRGangKing]

12 hours ago, DildorTheDecent said:

 

And of course you'll not get 5.0 with 1.35V not on the average Joe chip anyway (We all know who the exception to the rule is) Generally chips where needing 1.45V+ for 5.0 to run something without crashing/hanging/freezing. And at that voltage to temps aren't something to laugh about such as hitting the 90s on high end water.

 

 

I'm running my 7700k (with a delid, obviously a big factor) 5.1ghz @ 1.41v, under a custom loop. Running prime95, My max temperature last time I ran it was 64, and my average temp was closer to 55. Granted, that was definitely not the case with my 6700k, I had to push that thing to 1.395v to keep it stable at 4.7ghz. Pushing the voltage any further than that and I would start getting temps up to 90 degrees. I won't run an overclock that gets me temps over 80C in prime95 so I left it at 4.7ghz. I do sometimes wonder what I would have been able to do with that chip with a delid, although I dont think it would be nearly as big a factor as with the 7700k. It is also worth noting that when I first got the7700K I  would hit 80 under load at stock speeds.  I sent it off to silicon valley the next day, for the delid as well as the frequency testing.