"Skylake safe" cooler could damage Sky-, Kaby and Coffee Lake CPUs

[cj09beira]

9 minutes ago, bowrilla said:

Well, the weight of 1 kg equals about 10 N on earth (9.8… to be more precise) so 2 fans won't add much. I estimate 250 g per fan, so 0.5 kg in total equaling a force of 5 N. A NH-D15 weighs 980g without fans and 1.320g incl. fans. That's even less than I've estimated for general fans. That NH-D15 with two fans without being screwed in place would equal to a force of ~13 N. 

Comparison of Devil's Canyon vs Skylake with a good picture of the thinner PCB with fewer layers by Anadtech from 2015. So Intel probably just optimzed the hell out of their chip to get away with fewer layers saving a few cents and not wasting a thought about weakening the chip.

its more of a torque than anything else, and the distance between the cooler and the cpu would also serve as a lever, so the force might be bigger than that, but i cant be brothered to look more into it  

[PlayStation 2]

Sigh.

Maybe it was a good idea I went AMD the second round.

[bowrilla]

7 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

its more of a torque than anything else, and the distance between the cooler and the cpu would also serve as a lever, so the force might be bigger than that, but i cant be brothered to look more into it  

True, but there's no info by Intel on how much torque the chips can take.  Other than the … 250 g ish of a 120 mm fan … center of gravity should be right in the middle of it so at 60mm, let's add an estimated 30 mm distance between mainboard mount and fan, so it's at 90 mm distance and we have a total of 5 N for two fans. 5 N * 0.09 m = 0.45 Nm

Damn, I should go to bed … 

[Septimus]

12 hours ago, DocSwag said:

Praying right now that my dark rock pro 3 won't end up killing my 6700k...

Get some string and tie it to the top of the case and maybe loosen the screws to take some pressure off the socket.

[DocSwag]

2 minutes ago, Septimus said:

Get some string and tie it to the top of the case to take some pressure off the socket.

Interesting idea... I didn't even think about the fact that a lot of the pressure is just from gravity pulling the cooler.

 

I'll probably do that when I get to it (which knowing me means a month or two ), thanks for the suggestion.

[Sharkyx1]

I dropped my PC about 18" out of a chair while cleaning it. 3570k & ndh14. Good thing I don't have this new cheapo hardware I guess. 

[JediFragger]

Note to self: Don't throw PC around.

[WereCat]

I have my Dark Rock Pro 2 on my delided i7 4770k which has IHS just placed in there and held by the force of the socket clamp. There is definitely a lot more pressure on the CPU die than with stock but whatever...

If this was really such a big deal a lot more people would be having issues like this already.

[Sfekke]

Well if they are too heavy and put too much stress on the substrate, why don't we run no cooler!

 

I'm sure it'll be fine.

 

Per usual Sfekke came in and fixed the issue.

 

For the love of god do not attempt it, unless you want to have a laugh and see an old Pentium 4 burn .. then sure
 

[Hellion]

On 12/4/2017 at 7:34 AM, PCMasterDebater said:

I would like to believe Noctua spent more on R&D then Dark Rock developing their NH-D15 mitigating such issues. *crosses fingers* 

 

Those with their motherboards set flat in a case likely don't have this issue at all.

"Dark Rock" is not a company.

[ashypanda]

ah crap, now i'm hoping my shadow rock slim doesn't hurt my 6600k

[Spenser1337]

22 hours ago, tmcclelland455 said:

Nah, Dell stock cooler master race.

Agreed using one I pulled off of a 790

[PCMasterDebater]

3 hours ago, Hellion said:

"Dark Rock" is a company, but not the one you meant.

 **Fixed

 

 

Clearly I meant the company Be Quiet; simple mistake... But low and behold, Dark Rock is a company too. 

 

Thanks for pointing that out.