will i5-4440 3.1ghz bottleneck MSI GTX 1060 6GB

[Ruzis0]

Will my i5-4440 3.1 ghz bottleneck MSI GTX 1060 6gb ?

[jorenc]

5 minutes ago, Ruzis0 said:

Will my i5-4440 3.1 ghz bottleneck MSI GTX 1060 6gb ?

at 4k, probably.

 

at 1440p, just a tad but a 1060 is an entry 1440p card anyways.

 

at 1080p, lol no you're good

[Ruzis0]

4 minutes ago, jorenc said:

at 4k, probably.

 

at 1440p, just a tad but a 1060 is an entry 1440p card anyways.

 

at 1080p, lol no you're good

Yeah i think ill be good because i have 1080p monitor , thanks for answer and help

[Jsmith2211]

well, my i5 4440S bottlenecks my 1050, so... yeah.

[jorenc]

Just now, Ruzis0 said:

Yeah i think ill be good because i have 1080p monitor , thanks for answer and help

Awesome! I don't have one but from what I've seen, the 1060 is a monster at 1080p!

[jorenc]

Just now, Joelsome said:

well, my i5 4440S bottlenecks my 1050, so... yeah.

For what and at what resolution?

[TurbulentWinds]

14 minutes ago, jorenc said:

at 4k, probably.

 

at 1440p, just a tad but a 1060 is an entry 1440p card anyways.

 

at 1080p, lol no you're good

This is not true.

 

The CPU is almost never the bottleneck at 4K.

The CPU can be a bit of a bottleneck at 1440p but not with a 1060.

The CPU is sometimes a bottleneck at 1080p but not with an i5 and 1060.

 

The i5 4440 is a very good chip and will not bottleneck more than a few frames even if you had a 1070 instead of the 1060.

You are fine, keep the money for games or a better GPU, both are better ways to spend your cash.

 

 

[TurbulentWinds]

11 minutes ago, Joelsome said:

well, my i5 4440S bottlenecks my 1050, so... yeah.

A. That is an "S" series processor which is optimized for lower power draw with moderate performance drop. So it does not compare well.

B. No, it doesn't. Unless you are playing highly CPU intensive games such as a turn based, RTS or simulation, a 4th gen i5 is not going to bottleneck the 1050. I have a 1050 Ti and a i5 3470, which is a weaker CPU and stronger GPU. Guess what, the GPU is always the bottleneck, besides in intensive RTSs.

 

If I am wrong, can you upload some benchmarks proving the CPU as a bottleneck?

[TurbulentWinds]

I often see people overestimate the importance of a powerful CPU. You do not need an i7 or even an i5 for gaming. The difference between the tiers is often nonexistent or only a few frames. Any cash you spend on a CPU over a GPU when you already have an i5, is a bad choice if you are looking to push the best graphics and frames within budget. Money is better spent on the GPU than CPU for gaming. Streaming is different. Editing is different. Gaming is all about GPU horsepower with a ok to decent CPU to back it up.

[Jsmith2211]

22 minutes ago, jorenc said:

For what and at what resolution?

I mostly play battlefield 1 at 1080p

 

7 minutes ago, TurbulentWinds said:

A. That is an "S" series processor which is optimized for lower power draw with moderate performance drop. So it does not compare well.

B. No, it doesn't. Unless you are playing highly CPU intensive games such as a turn based, RTS or simulation, a 4th gen i5 is not going to bottleneck the 1050. I have a 1050 Ti and a i5 3470, which is a weaker CPU and stronger GPU. Guess what, the GPU is always the bottleneck, besides in intensive RTSs.

 

If I am wrong, can you upload some benchmarks proving the CPU as a bottleneck?

 Well, Afterburner in the background, 50% gpu and 100% CPU.

[jorenc]

Just now, Joelsome said:

I mostly play battlefield 1 at 1080p

 

 Well, Afterburner in the background, 50% gpu and 100% CPU.

I'm 90% sure it's the S skew 

[Jsmith2211]

Just now, jorenc said:

I'm 90% sure it's the S skew 

Yeah, is there a way to get it to run like a normal one? I bought it as a prebuilt, then kept the mobo, cpu and HDD. If i cant do anything else with this CPU, then can i just upgrade? I bought an M11AD from ASUS.

[jorenc]

2 minutes ago, Joelsome said:

Yeah, is there a way to get it to run like a normal one? I bought it as a prebuilt, then kept the mobo, cpu and HDD. If i cant do anything else with this CPU, then can i just upgrade? I bought an M11AD from ASUS.

You might be able to overclock it (I've never used an S skew chip, so I don't know if it can). If it can, your PC probably has the shitty stock heatsink, so you'll want to pick up an aftermarket cooler (probably a Hyper212 EVO). If it can't overclock, you'll have to get a new chip

[Jsmith2211]

Just now, jorenc said:

You might be able to overclock it (I've never used an S skew chip, so I don't know if it can). If it can, your PC probably has the shitty stock heatsink, so you'll want to pick up an aftermarket cooler (probably a Hyper212 EVO). If it can't overclock, you'll have to get a new chip

I already upgraded the cooler, there isno unlocked multi[plyer, but can i overclock FSB or something?

[jorenc]

Just now, Joelsome said:

I already upgraded the cooler, there isno unlocked multi[plyer, but can i overclock FSB or something?

If the multiplier is locked, I doubt you can but you could always check. I've never used an S chip so I couldn't tell you the definitive 'yes' or 'no.' My guess though is probably not  

[Jsmith2211]

Just now, jorenc said:

If the multiplier is locked, I doubt you can but you could always check. I've never used an S chip so I couldn't tell you the definitive 'yes' or 'no.' My guess though is probably not  

Ok, thank you!

[faziten]

6 hours ago, Ruzis0 said:

Will my i5-4440 3.1 ghz bottleneck MSI GTX 1060 6gb ?

1080p yes

above most certainly not.

[Ruzis0]

15 hours ago, faziten said:

1080p yes

above most certainly not.

How on more better resolution it wont bottleneck but on 1080p it will, that doesnt make sence?

[Princess Luna]

21 hours ago, jorenc said:

at 4k, probably.

 

at 1440p, just a tad but a 1060 is an entry 1440p card anyways.

 

at 1080p, lol no you're good

it actually is the other way around, remember the higher the resolution the more work shifted towards GPU decreasing the bottleneck of a weaker CPU.

[Ruzis0]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

it actually is the other way around, remember the higher the resolution the more work shifted towards GPU decreasing the bottleneck of a weaker CPU.

So i need to get better resolution monitor?
 

[Princess Luna]

4 minutes ago, Ruzis0 said:

How on more better resolution it wont bottleneck but on 1080p it will, that doesnt make sence?

Imagine this way, the CPU creates the virtual world of the game and every thing going on in there is the CPU job to make, every action you take every npc action all of it is the CPU working, the GPU is merely illustrating this world created by the CPU.

 

Bottleneck happens when the CPU can't tell the GPU what is going on in the world fast enough so the GPU knows what to draw so while the GPU could have made 60 frames, 60 draws in a second for the image you should be seen the CPU couldn't tell the GPU it fast enough so the GPU only knew what to draw in 40 frames/draws... Now if you move up the resolution to 4k then these frames and draws are harder to make meaning now the GPU capacity is of only 40frames/draws but wait! that's exactly how much the CPU could tell it any ways... there no more CPU bottleneck due to higher resolution.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, Ruzis0 said:

So i need to get better resolution monitor?
 

If you want 60hz this will not matter at all the i5+1060 will do fine together for the most part, we were all just being literal about the bottleneck thing, realistic speaking...

 

As you can see in worse case scenario your CPU is on pair with the Pentium G4560 effectively:

 

So we can take this rich in information video as an example of the expected performance and true % of bottlenecking the CPU should have while paired with the GTX 1060 6gb.

If you ever want to upgrade CPU my best advise would be a second hand locked i7 4790, it is compatible with your motherboard and will perform greatly while pricing should be attractive.

[dragonhart6505]

21 hours ago, TurbulentWinds said:

I often see people overestimate the importance of a powerful CPU. You do not need an i7 or even an i5 for gaming. The difference between the tiers is often nonexistent or only a few frames. Any cash you spend on a CPU over a GPU when you already have an i5, is a bad choice if you are looking to push the best graphics and frames within budget. Money is better spent on the GPU than CPU for gaming. Streaming is different. Editing is different. Gaming is all about GPU horsepower with a ok to decent CPU to back it up.

This. My Phenom II 955 doesn't compare to the CPU in question, but monitoring with AB I frequently watch my GPU (RX 460 in my case) ramp up when playing intense games before my CPU does. Even in cases like GTAV my CPU will hover around 85℅ while my GPU takes the brunt of the work at 1080p High/Normal. If I lower my settings in any games I get far worse performance because then the GPU isn't being taxed as hard.

Op, your 1060 will do just fine. It'd probably be the max beneficial card you could pair with the CPU anyway to keep it balanced

[Subtle Corruption]

No it will not bottleneck.

[Subtle Corruption]

1 minute ago, dragonhart6505 said:

This. My Phenom II 955 doesn't compare to the CPU in question, but monitoring with AB I frequently watch my GPU (RX 460 in my case) ramp up when playing intense games before my CPU does. Even in cases like GTAV my CPU will hover around 85℅ while my GPU takes the brunt of the work at 1080p High/Normal. If I lower my settings in any games I get far worse performance because then the GPU isn't being taxed as hard.

Op, your 1060 will do just fine. It'd probably be the max beneficial card you could pair with the CPU anyway to keep it balanced

Phenom II is way behind even the OP's 4440, time to upgrade unless you are happy.