EVGA to release single slot 1080 ti K|NGP|N (Liquid Cooled)

[TidaLWaveZ]

The liquid-cooled EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N Hydro Copper graphics card uses the same PCB as the air-cooled original one. The board was designed for overclockers and overclocking: it features a 14 phase digital VRM, 11 thermal sensors in total in critical locations on the PCB (5 on the VRMs, 4 for the vRAM, and two on/near the GPU itself), an EVbot connector for easier volt modding as well as three BIOSes (normal, overclocked, and LN2) that can be activated when needed. Since EVGA guarantees that NVIDIA’s GP102 GPUs on all GeForce GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N Hydro Copper graphics cards can be overclocked to at least 2025 MHz in boost mode (up from 1695 MHz out of-the-box), the 'overclocked' BIOS setting is going to be default for most owners of the new card.

 

 

It's cool to see a single slot card in the mix but I'm not sure how I feel about it being one of the most premium cards you can get. The fact that it's liquid cooled and top tier pricing($1249 USD) puts it out of reach for many and I'm not sure the kind of people that will buy this card even need or care about it being single slot. What are your feelings on the card?

 

 

Article

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12076/evga-launches-single-slot-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-kngpn-hydro-copper

 

Product Page

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6799-KR

[kelvinhall05]

See, I'd be impressed if it was air cooled. This is boring.

[TidaLWaveZ]

1 minute ago, kelvinhall05 said:

See, I'd be impressed if it was air cooled. This is boring.

Boring in terms of innovation, but far from boring if we had it in our systems.

[jasonvp]

It's interesting that they went mini-DP in order to get the DVI port on it, instead of just lopping that stupid and useless port off.  I'm very keen on the idea of a single-slot card and like this a lot.  I won't be buying it because I'm done with Pascal cards, but it gives me hope that the next gen cards will be easier to turn into single-slot ones.

[Jurrunio]

So it's just an official waterblock of the Kingpin. EVGA's attempt at creating more first world problems I guess.

5 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

See, I'd be impressed if it was air cooled. This is boring.

Then you will need a heatsink as large as a side panel of an ATX case, strapped with many fans to get the cooling done.

[kelvinhall05]

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

So it's just an official waterblock of the Kingpin. EVGA's attempt at creating more first world problems I guess.

Then you will need a heatsink as large as a side panel of an ATX case, strapped with many fans to get the cooling done.

I know it would, but it would be cool if it could be done.

[DildorTheDecent]

As much as I love the KPE, the Titan Xp is arguably cheaper depending on what you buy it for and can already be single slot converted with a waterblock and bracket. Also has the fully enabled die and will still be faster than this card.

 

Plus the Titan e-peen is nice.

[Bananasplit_00]

why?... i dont get this card really. you have a PCB built for just LN2, and you slap a waterblock on it? wut... its not a BAD PCB for watercooling, but, but id much rather see this with the FTW PCB and a much lower price so people could afford it. feels like such a good board more or less wasted on just watercooling

[Drak3]

52 minutes ago, DildorTheDecent said:

Also has the fully enabled die and will still be faster than this card.

Barely, and only at stock. OC for OC, the Ti and Xp perform roughly the same, the Ti being able to clock slightly higher to make up the difference in CUDA core count.

[TVwazhere]

1 hour ago, VegetableStu said:

for a single slot 1080ti that could be tamed by an air cooler (without using a blower a-la katana), it'd be extremely impressive, yes ._.

but realistically speaking....?

Considering the single slot 1070 was the worst performing 1070 out of any of the cooler designs on the market, it's not surprising it's not air cooled. High end Air cooled single slot GPU's are just a waste of performance IMO.

 

Jay's video with Vince though game some insight on why the Kingpin edition card is so overbuilt. I do agree that most of it is wasted since LN2 is the only way to utilize all the power

 

[goodtofufriday]

1 hour ago, jasonvp said:

It's interesting that they went mini-DP in order to get the DVI port on it, instead of just lopping that stupid and useless port off.  I'm very keen on the idea of a single-slot card and like this a lot.  I won't be buying it because I'm done with Pascal cards, but it gives me hope that the next gen cards will be easier to turn into single-slot ones.

apparently its a port still popular in korea.

[Masada02]

27 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Barely, and only at stock. OC for OC, the Ti and Xp perform roughly the same, the Ti being able to clock slightly higher to make up the difference in CUDA core count.

Both under water the Xp can hit the same core clocks and higher mem clocks. The Xp will still be faster, though only by about 5%. 

[Eduard the weeb]

So much POWER in such a small card.

[Matu20]

Love seeing single slot cards with awesome PCBs.

[Space Reptile]

• single slot 
• still has dvi 

SEE? ITS NOT THAT HARD [OTHER BRANDS]

[TheUzu]

DVI what is that???

 

Vega knows not of such things.

[Marinatall_Ironside]

I want to make a correction here: it uses a 10+3-phase VRM configuration. Keep in mind that the MOSFETs used to build it are pretty much the best you can get on the market.

 

The only thing that can 1-up it is the GALAX GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Hall of Fame with its 16+3-phase VRM that's obscene.

 

For USD $1,249, I'd rather take the NVIDIA TITAN Xp instead.

[FloRolf]

24 Gamers 4 CPUs pls? 

[RyanEsau]

13 hours ago, JurunceNK said:

For USD $1,249, I'd rather take the NVIDIA TITAN Xp instead.

Isn't the whole point of K|NGP|N though is that your essentially (or actually) getting a Binned GPU?

 

You would prefer a TITAN Xp over a Binned 1080 Ti w/ a Waterblock pre-installed? There's also EVGA's iCX technology if you care about monitoring all the temps. (More temp sensors)

 

I think I'd just get a non-binned 1080 Ti and slap a waterblock on myself along with getting the respective custom loop necessities. I think it'd end up in the general range of just getting of the K|NGP|N 1080 Ti w/ Waterblock.

 

On a side note, why is it like $250 more just for their waterblock? (Compared to their air cooled K|NGP|N @ $999) Isn't a waterblock like a $100~ usually?

[Nicnac]

looks nice but missing some copper accents imo. Seriously most people that get this card do it cause it's premium and for the looks and maybe because they want to oc using traditional cooling methods. The fraction of people actually oc-ing this on LN2 is tiny.

[Marinatall_Ironside]

16 hours ago, RyanEsau said:

Isn't the whole point of K|NGP|N though is that your essentially (or actually) getting a Binned GPU?

 

You would prefer a TITAN Xp over a Binned 1080 Ti w/ a Waterblock pre-installed? There's also EVGA's iCX technology if you care about monitoring all the temps. (More temp sensors)

 

I think I'd just get a non-binned 1080 Ti and slap a waterblock on myself along with getting the respective custom loop necessities. I think it'd end up in the general range of just getting of the K|NGP|N 1080 Ti w/ Waterblock.

 

On a side note, why is it like $250 more just for their waterblock? (Compared to their air cooled K|NGP|N @ $999) Isn't a waterblock like a $100~ usually?

The whole point of any K|NGP|N card is it's for extreme overclocking. Unless you're doing that, you're wasting its potential.

 

And yes I'd prefer a TITAN Xp over the EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N Hydro Copper. The only temps I monitor are the core temps since any sane/ smart person would already have properly designed their cooling system to reasonably cool the other components. May not be much faster, but it's USD $50 cheaper for the card itself, doesn't require a watercooling system to be set up (which adds on top of that card if one isn't already in use), and that's before shipping and tax.

 

Any GeForce GTX 1080 Ti under water will still beat any of the top tier cards in clocks and temps. Plus it doesn't matter if they're binned. Under normal use, the FPS values are so small, you won't notice a difference. So pick any card and you'll be happy if noise and aesthetics don't matter much (but I'll advise against the MSI ARMOR (it's a project card with an excellent PCB and garbage air cooler) and Zotac AMP! Extreme (half-decent VRM cooling with average PCB) cards).

 

As for why it costs USD $250 more vs. the air cooled one? I don't know. GPU waterblocks tend to average around the USD $120-150 mark.

[Arika]

do we even need single slot cards anymore? im pretty sure there are no motherboards that have the PCIe slots so close together than dual slot is an issue, even ITX cases, if they support a DGPU they will be designed for a dual slot

[thorhammerz]

16 hours ago, JurunceNK said:

As for why it costs USD $250 more vs. the air cooled one? I don't know. GPU waterblocks tend to average around the USD $120-150 mark.

There's the labour/machine costs to actually pre-install the damn thing onto the PCB in a manner that ensures a quality product (nothing is broken, scratched, out-of-place) on each/every one they make (processing an RMA is even costlier).

 

Tack on a healthy (for the business ) profit margin (if it's not financially worth a company's while to do something, they ain't gonna do it... especially for a comparatively lower-volume high-end product) on top of that, and a $250 premium (while subjectively a little on the high side) is in the ballpark of what one could expect to be charged.

 

Spoiler

There's a reason why laptops with an "use an SSD instead of an HDD" option costs considerably more than the nominal difference in value between the replacement SSD and HDD.

 

[Silentprototipe]

Kinda boring .-. 

 

Bring me an Air cooled card then id be impressed 

 

*Cough* GTX 1070 Katana 

[jasonvp]

5 hours ago, Sierra Fox said:

do we even need single slot cards anymore? im pretty sure there are no motherboards that have the PCIe slots so close together than dual slot is an issue, even ITX cases, if they support a DGPU they will be designed for a dual slot

 I can't speak for others, just myself.  I use my PCI-E slots (sound card, storage, etc) along with 2 GPUs.  On the Asus board, 1 GPU doesn't kill the slot right next to it because there isn't one, as you hint to.  But the second GPU does eat the slot next to it.

 

I'd love to clean that up.