Samsung Developing Graphene Batteries

[Todotoad]

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"Samsung's Advanced Institute of Technology has been working with graphene to both increase battery capacity and drastically reduce recharge times. Samsung's used the material to create a "graphene ball" – a special coating that's used inside a typical lithium-ion battery that's found in most modern smartphones ... Samsung has reportedly been able to increase battery capacity by as much as 45-percent and increase the speed of charging by five times ... batteries with the new tech still hold a charge retention of 78-percent even after 500 total charge cycles." -Android Central

 

https://www.androidcentral.com/samsungs-use-graphene-batteries-increases-charge-speed-five-times

 

Considering that most electronics such as smartphones, tablets, laptops/notebooks, and even cars are powered by lithium ion batteries that have not seen much significant innovation in the past years, the fact that Samsung is introducing this graphene technology would probably take this slow moving industry to the next level. Just in the smartphone world, most flagship phones are becoming more and more similar to each other especially in the processor, display, build, software, and battery areas. As a consumer, the quality and size of the battery in a phone is an important factor on deciding whether or not I should buy it. Although I doubt that this technology will be implemented on the next Samsung Galaxy flagships especially after the credit it has to rebuild as a company after last year, we could finally have commonplace 4500mah+ batteries in our phones that could last us not only a few days (helpful for me since I often forget that unless I charge overnight, I'll end up with 25% power in the morning) compared to phones of today that can't last a day of heavy use without a charge, but also a few years thanks to the improved charge retention, a problem of li-ion batteries. Moving beyond the scope of phones, this tech could help create a world where electric cars can go significantly farther than their fuel based counter-parts with less charging time. The possibilities are endless. Hope Samsung doesn't mess this up.

 

Additional Articles

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5121445/Samsungs-new-graphene-batteries-charge-5x-faster.html

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/great-balls-graphene-samsung-tech-111013765.html

[ARikozuM]

Note 9, anyone?

[Daniel Z.]

I am glad they are doing research in new things but I hope they will have some competition.

[SansVarnic]

Intriguing

[dizmo]

Nice! About time. Though, one has to wonder if we'll just see even thinner phones with smaller batteries and the same battery life. After all, if you didn't have incremental reasons to upgrade every year, why would you buy a new phone?

I'm surprised Musk hasn't started down this path, though one has to wonder how easily adapted his manufacturing plants are to use graphene. I think we're still 5ish years out before we see anything with a graphene battery in it though.

10 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Note 9, anyone?

Haha, I think that's a little too optimistic

I'd be happy if they just managed to put the fingerprint reader in a better spot...

[Shadestones]

Is it just me, or does 500 charge cycles for only 78% retention not sound like a good thing?

[ARikozuM]

Just now, Shadestones said:

Is it just me, or does 500 charge cycles for only 78% retention not sound like a good thing?

As long as the battery lasts 18 hours, from 100-20%, it should be fine for most that use it within the average. 

[ignaloidas]

Why batteries? Graphene capacitors are the right way - almost instant charging, same speed, no performance degradation. Stop using obsolete stuff Samsung.

/s

 

[dfsdfgfkjsefoiqzemnd]

2 hours ago, Shadestones said:

Is it just me, or does 500 charge cycles for only 78% retention not sound like a good thing?

Meh, that's okay.  IIRC Li-ion is around 80%.  If they can pack more energy in the same amount of space, it should take longer before hitting that 500 charge cycles mark. 

 

[Bananasplit_00]

Sweet, the thing is that this will probably just push phones thinner and I honestly don't want a device much thinner than my G6 tbh, this is thin enough and going thinner will probably see us with another bend gate 

[Sfekke]

This would something that could make me buy smartphones in Belgium again. A real killer feature.

Lately I've been importing them since there has been a lack of good forward thinking evolution.

I'd pay € 550 for a phone with this technology!

If it is all it promises to be.

[Bigbootyjudy]

4 hours ago, Shadestones said:

Is it just me, or does 500 charge cycles for only 78% retention not sound like a good thing?

If you charge it once a day every single day then that means almost a year and a half. What do people usually do after one year of owning a phone? (most of the average consumers) They buy the next best phone. I think that this is understanable

[RedRound2]

Not to shit on everyone's happy moments, but this pretty much like any other new battery tech news that isn't going to be coming to market anytime within next few years. I'm pretty sure all companies and alot research groups are trying to develop a new battery tech and I've heard all of them from high density Li-ion, aluminium batteries, graphene, nano tubes, super capacitors and yet nothing is even close to market as of now.

 

I would take this as a grain of salt and move along with my day. Nothing to be excited here until someone actually brings out a device with a new battery tech.

5 hours ago, dizmo said:

I'm surprised Musk hasn't started down this path, though one has to wonder how easily adapted his manufacturing plants are to use graphene.

I am pretty sure Tesla invests heavily in researching new battery tech and as far as I see, from the looks of Tesla Semi's allegedly 1 MWh and Roadster's 200 KWh battery in a smaller chassis than Model S, they seem to have some progress on that front with a solid release date of 2020 (hopefully)

[Taf the Ghost]

Like carbon nanotubes, let me know when you have these in an early stage product. We've been trying to get graphene into products a very long time at this point.

[mynameisjuan]

4 hours ago, RedRound2 said:

isn't going to be coming to market anytime within next few years

Do you know how many "revolutionary battery" articles there have been in the past 10 or so years and I have yet to see even one make it to the market. 

 

 

[captain_to_fire]

12 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

Do you know how many "revolutionary battery" articles there have been in the past 10 or so years and I have yet to see even one make it to the market. 

Standardization and testing for safety alone can take years. Most of the research on batteries are done in universities receive little or no funding so most of them are just lab scale and doesn’t reach mass production. Another thing to consider is the conflict of interests which exists even in the hallowed halls of academia which isn’t a secret. 

 

But I’m hopeful with someone as big as Samsung we can have something better than Lithium ion batteries. 

[Okjoek]

Sounds cool. I hope they find an implementation for this that works better than traditional battery technology. I'm not an expert, but I've been told that today's Lithium Ion batteries have a tendency for combustion. One friend I got in a video game server said he used to work in an electronics store (I forget what, I think it was Radio Shack or something) and a phone meant for a customer suddenly spouted flames like a butane lighter.

[Trixanity]

Graphene can do anything... Except leave the lab. We're unlikely to get anything on the market within 5 years of an announcement. We've seen these claims in various forms every year for a decade. Also, consider how volatile lithium batteries are right now and how everyone in the industry wish to make safer batteries: they'll be very careful about introducing new battery tech even with thorough testing. Imagine another Note7 debacle on a larger scale.

[Deli]

6 hours ago, Bigbootyjudy said:

If you charge it once a day every single day then that means almost a year and a half. What do people usually do after one year of owning a phone? (most of the average consumers) They buy the next best phone. I think that this is understanable

New phone every year for "most of the average consumers"? Wow I think not.

[Bigbootyjudy]

Just now, Deli said:

New phone every year for "most of the average consumers"? Wow I think not.

Im talking about the people who will buy the new Samsung or Apple phone every single year. I guess this is not the most accurate statement calling them "average"

[Doobeedoo]

Oh wow finally something new with batteries! Great! Quick charging is always welcomed but simply having more battery life is much needed.

[bcredeur97]

inb4 apple starts making razor-thin iphones that only last 3/4 of a day on a charge lol

[Bit_Guardian]

On 28/11/2017 at 8:32 AM, Taf the Ghost said:

Like carbon nanotubes, let me know when you have these in an early stage product. We've been trying to get graphene into products a very long time at this point.

Only in academic labs. This is commercial product R&D, by Samsung. 3-4 years until we see a product on the shelf.

[mr moose]

On 11/29/2017 at 12:41 AM, mynameisjuan said:

Do you know how many "revolutionary battery" articles there have been in the past 10 or so years and I have yet to see even one make it to the market. 

 

 

 

I don't know, 3?   Like all new tech, they develop a lot but sometimes they have to wait for the economy/society/infrastructure to be different before they are viable.  Lithium batteries have been in use since the 70's, however it has only been in the last 15 years that devices have got to the stage that they actually benefited from them.

[mynameisjuan]

28 minutes ago, mr moose said:

they have to wait for the economy/society/infrastructure to be different before they are viable

Before they become viable? There was one a few years ago that could almost get 100 fold out of a battery the same size they are now. How is that not viable? 

 

Like I know it takes time to research and make it to production but I just hate how articles make it seem like its right around the corner. This wont be available for decades probably and if so I couldnt care less.