Rumour: Intel Core 9000 series to get more threads

[just_dave]

3 hours ago, Essence_of_Darkness said:

Holy sh** if that rumor is true, then I might just cancel my Ryzen order

You cancel your Ryzen order and wait for Zen+. I am almost sure that will ground Covfefe lake CPUs. We've seen what current Zen can do when handled improperly (4.4GHz at 1.55V = cinebench score 200)

[NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle]

6 minutes ago, Dylanc1500 said:

 Actually because of production issues Intel has chosen for cannonlake to be mobile only and desktop to jump from coffee lake to Icelake. Icelake is projected to be on the 2 generation of their 10nm process. For desktop Icelake will be an architecture and process update. With tigerlake being an slated to be an optimization.

 

these are however all projections that Intel has released so far and could change.

I did not know that information, thank you.

[Dissitesuxba11s]

3 hours ago, Essence_of_Darkness said:

Holy sh** if that rumor is true, then I might just cancel my Ryzen order

Just hope that it doesn't follow the trend of Coffeelake, and be marked-up significantly, or low in stock if not bought early enough.

[System Error Message]

8 cores? i want 36 cores mainstream  

http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/tilera-announces-the-worlds-first-100-core-processor-with-the-new-tile-gx-family-1170488.htm

end of 2009 and someone made a 100 core CPU. Its a CPU and not a GPU.

 

Many datacenters integrate this CPU to run their firewall and webserver seperate from the main CPU to handle the needs of the increasing population. You can get these as PCIe cards and they have multiple 10Gb/s NICs.

 

Frequency wasnt even far from intel's GPU attempt.

[Indus Monk]

Any info on the socket? I want to OC my 4690k before upgrade and definitely buy a new CPU cooler. It would be a shame if the new cooler would not work on the next gen CPU.

[Dylanc1500]

14 minutes ago, NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle said:

I did not know that information, thank you.

You are more than welcome.

 

11 minutes ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

Just hope that it doesn't follow the trend of Coffeelake, and be marked-up significantly, or low in stock if not bought early enough.

If you have a micro center nearby, the 8700k is at $379. That being if you are in the U.S. and have one close enough.

[vetali]

Well hopefully this is why Coffee Lake stock is still ass. Then again, further proof that Coffee Lake was an unnecessary rushed mess. Would be even better if it was a different socket, making z300 one and done.

[Drak3]

3 hours ago, Morgan MLGman said:

This is sad A core # increase wasn't possible in 7 previous generation (Nehalem to Kaby Lake) but it's possible to double the core count in 2 gens now that AMD actually offers competitive CPUs?

A core count increase wasn't possible without increasing TDP numbers to the point that freaks out the typical consumer. Keep in mind that Coffee is 14nm++, using the same arch as Skylake, and hitting similar TDP numbers without sacrificing unholy amounts of clockspeed.

[-TesseracT-]

Hmmmm. When the 8000 series came out, people said that they were feeling sorry for people who had just bought 7000 series CPU (they missed out on the 6 core thingy). Now, we have the same situation (if this is true), when people will say "poor ones who bought 8000 series, if they bought now they could get more cores". It just shows you that there will always be the next great thing around the corner. 

[Simon771]

If you ask me, 9th series of Intel CPUs will be compatible with Z370 chipset.

Wouldn't be exactly smart to release Coffe Lake now, and 9000 series in few months after that, to just kill Z370 chipset.

But I do wonder about limitations of current motherboards. Will single EPS 8pin connector be enough to power 8c/16t from Intel CPU?

And that could very well be the reason why Coffe Lake isn't compatible with Z270 ... they wanted to introduce new platform that will be used for Coffe lake and 9th generation.

 

If 9th series will be compatible with Z370, I might consider buying it at the end of 2018.

[aisle9]

4 hours ago, Morgan MLGman said:

This is sad A core # increase wasn't possible in 7 previous generation (Nehalem to Kaby Lake) but it's possible to double the core count in 2 gens now that AMD actually offers competitive CPUs?

Now that AMD has finally done something worth reaching into the vault for...

 

Just in case you weren't already convinced of Intel's shady business practices when it comes to releasing new technology, here you go. One of the reasons I went to Ryzen when my 4790K was irreparably screwed by a bad mobo. I wouldn't be surprised if Intel went to an entirely new socket for ninth-gen, if only to force everyone to buy a new motherboard and shut those who would question why another new chipset is needed up.

 

The usual WCCFTech disclaimer applies here.

[porina]

1 hour ago, dizmo said:

Pretty sure a majority of the forum is American, so rumor would be correct

I'm curious what the demographic of the forum visitors now, but regardless of that, a majority believing in something doesn't necessarily make it right.

1 hour ago, MyName13 said:

You can always buy AMD's cool CPUs (or simply live with it because you want the best thing on the market) or overclock it to 4.5 GHz.

I think any comparable AMD CPU running at 5 GHz will be hotter than its Intel equivalent

[aliasdred]

4 hours ago, Essence_of_Darkness said:

I said if rumour is true, but still Ryzen is huge jump in my workload cause I am still on Phenom 1055T

I feel you brother ;-;

Phenom 1090T mustardrace

[MyName13]

11 minutes ago, porina said:

I think any comparable AMD CPU running at 5 GHz will be hotter than its Intel equivalent

Now you get the point

[porina]

16 minutes ago, MyName13 said:

Now you get the point

Doh! Thought you were talking about stock...

[dizmo]

32 minutes ago, porina said:

I'm curious what the demographic of the forum visitors now, but regardless of that, a majority believing in something doesn't necessarily make it right.

What? It doesn't change the fact that there are two ways to spell rumour and both are correct. 

[Morgan MLGman]

59 minutes ago, -TesseracT- said:

Hmmmm. When the 8000 series came out, people said that they were feeling sorry for people who had just bought 7000 series CPU (they missed out on the 6 core thingy). Now, we have the same situation (if this is true), when people will say "poor ones who bought 8000 series, if they bought now they could get more cores". It just shows you that there will always be the next great thing around the corner. 

Not really. If you bought a first/second gen i7 then you didn't miss out on anything until 8th gen because all next i7s up to Kaby Lake were all 4C/8T with better (or sometimes not even better looking at Kaby Lake) IPC, what's more, Intel released TWO microarchitectures in 2017 and it never happened before. They also made Coffee Lake incompatible with previous LGA1151 chipsets despite using the same socket (although I'm aware of slight pin layout modifications, an ASUS representative said that decent Z270 boards could run Coffee).

All of that happened only because of Ryzen, so you have to understand people being salty about all that.

[-TesseracT-]

Just now, Morgan MLGman said:

Not really. If you bought a first/second gen i7 then you didn't miss out on anything until 8th gen because all next i7s up to Kaby Lake were all 4C/8T with better (or not even better looking at Kaby Lake) IPC, what's more, Intel released TWO microarchitectures in 2017 and it never happened before. They also made Coffee Lake incompatible with previous LGA1151 chipsets despite using the same socket (although I'm aware of slight pin layout modifications, an ASUS representative said that good Z270 boards could run Coffee.

All of that happened only because of Ryzen, so you have to understand people being salty about all that.

i forgot to put "could" in my last sentence. But yes good point.

[DanielMDA]

5 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Have been telling people about the 8c/16t i7 9700k for months already, only now "rumours" are rising on the subject? lmao

Could we be getting on the 9th Gen?:

Core i9: 10+C / 20+T (like right now)

Core i7: 8C/16T (like the i7 7820X)

Core i5: 6C/12T (like the current 8700K)

Core i3: 4C/8T (like the i7 7700K/i7 7740X)

Pentium: 4C/4T (like the i3 8350K, 7600K or 7640X)

Celeron: 2C/4T (like the i3 7350K or current Pentiums)

 

                 

 

[Armakar]

who else thinks AMD will do the amd special and slap 12-16 cores on a ryzen 7 rather than increasing clockspeed/ipc

[laminutederire]

2 hours ago, AmbarChakrabarti said:

Any info on the socket? I want to OC my 4690k before upgrade and definitely buy a new CPU cooler. It would be a shame if the new cooler would not work on the next gen CPU.

Buy Noctua and ask them new mounting brackets or something afterwards? They seem pretty happy to please their customers with those

 

 

 

Well, Raja was a spy, he told Intel how good was Zen2 and they felt obligated to release something better before Zen2 this time around. Seems possible.

[Crosseyed Sniper]

When are the expected release dates of these 9th Gen CPUs? Next year? Someone tell me or I'll drown this invisible squirrel. I am serious!

[Taf the Ghost]

2 hours ago, Armakar said:

who else thinks AMD will do the amd special and slap 12-16 cores on a ryzen 7 rather than increasing clockspeed/ipc

Zen2 is at almost assuredly at least 12c in the Desktop. It might be 16c per die for TR, as those would be server parts, but we don't know yet. The only details we have is "Starship" was planned as a 12c part base (4 dies x 12cores). AMD is most likely moving to at least 3 dies for "Zen2", mobile/APU, desktop and server, but that doesn't mean a whole lot. Some of the people with contacts are saying 16c parts on 7nm, so we'll see.

1 hour ago, Crosseyed Sniper said:

When are the expected release dates of these 9th Gen CPUs? Next year? Someone tell me or I'll drown this invisible squirrel. I am serious!

H2 2018. That's the only official word we have on any roadmaps for Z390. Intel will barely have all of the 8th gen parts rolled out by May 2018 as it is. So it's far more than likely to be Fall 2018. Or we get a mid-Summer release to stem AMD's Ryzen refresh. 

 

We don't know. Intel's Roadmap is the most opaque it's been in years.

[NumLock21]

 

[porina]

As an open question, just how many cores can the consumer usefully use? I'm not saying there aren't some situations where you can't get enough performance, but we already have HEDT for that. Are the highest end consumer CPUs at 12 cores+ going to largely end up for bragging rights?