Rumour: Intel Core 9000 series to get more threads

[porina]

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Intel’s Core i7-9700K 9th Generation Flagship To Feature 8 Cores, 16 Threads – Core i5 and Core i3 Get Upgrades Too

https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-9700k-9th-gen-8-cores-16-threads-rumor/

 

According to WCCF there'll be more threads in the 9000 series range. i7 getting 8c16t. i5 goes up to 6c12t, and i3 has 4c8t. Basically in core/thread count they will go head on with Ryzen. Of course, if this happens I'd expect this to come at a price premium over Ryzen, and there may be yet another chipset required. But you will probably get the expected Intel IPC and clocks, and much higher AVX performance. As a consumer platform I wonder if Intel will stick to the dual channel ram though... I think we're due an increase there that isn't covered by the slightly higher supported DDR4 speeds compared to earlier.

 

On the flip side, this does take some shine off Coffee Lake, which in itself makes previous quads look more basic also. Alternatively, in 2 generations 4c8t goes from i7 to i3.

 

It will be also interesting to see how the Ryzen refresh fights back against this.

 

[Morgan MLGman]

This is sad A core # increase wasn't possible in 7 previous generation (Nehalem to Kaby Lake) but it's possible to double the core count in 2 gens now that AMD actually offers competitive CPUs?

[Essence_of_Darkness]

5 minutes ago, porina said:

https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-9700k-9th-gen-8-cores-16-threads-rumor/

 

According to WCCF there'll be more threads in the 9000 series range. i7 getting 8c16t. i5 goes up to 6c12t, and i3 has 4c8t. Basically in core/thread count they will go head on with Ryzen. Of course, if this happens I'd expect this to come at a price premium over Ryzen, and there may be yet another chipset required. But you will probably get the expected Intel IPC and clocks, and much higher AVX performance. As a consumer platform I wonder if Intel will stick to the dual channel ram though... I think we're due an increase there that isn't covered by the slightly higher supported DDR4 speeds compared to earlier.

 

On the flip side, this does take some shine off Coffee Lake, which in itself makes previous quads look more basic also. Alternatively, in 2 generations 4c8t goes from i7 to i3.

 

It will be also interesting to see how the Ryzen refresh fights back against this.

 

Holy sh** if that rumor is true, then I might just cancel my Ryzen order

[WereCat]

Heh. Intel did a "breaktrough" with Cofee Lake just now by increasing the core count. Now they are suddenly going to do that again with 9000 series? This just craps all over the Kaby Lake even more.

 

If thats true, of course...

 

I am not saying that this is a bad thing but this just gives me even more reason to not upgrade now

[nexus6]

I appreciate that you spelled "rumour" correctly.

 

On the news - means nothing without pricing.

[warlinty]

1 minute ago, Morgan MLGman said:

This is sad A core # increase wasn't possible in 7 previous generation (Nehalem to Kaby Lake) but it's possible to double the core count in 2 gens now that AMD actually offers competitive CPUs?

it's possible now that they're seeing how well AMD is competing 

[Benjals]

TFW your monopoly is threatened and you need to fight back

[porina]

1 minute ago, Morgan MLGman said:

This is sad A core # increase wasn't possible in 7 previous generation (Nehalem to Kaby Lake) but it's possible to double the core count in 2 gens now that AMD actually offers competitive CPUs?

There's still a rumoured 8 core Coffee Lake in the pipeline isn't there? But the lack of core count growth was likely for reasons other than technical ones.

 

2 minutes ago, Essence_of_Darkness said:

Holy sh** if that rumor is true, then I might just cancel my Ryzen order

It's a rumour. Don't know if, when, or how much. If you need something now, do what you can now.

 

 

[Essence_of_Darkness]

1 minute ago, porina said:

It's a rumour. Don't know if, when, or how much. If you need something now, do what you can now.

I said if rumour is true, but still Ryzen is huge jump in my workload cause I am still on Phenom 1055T

[NelizMastr]

The rumoured 8-core Coffee Lakes will require Z390 boards according to the current rumours, so we'll see how big that backlash will be.

[mynameisjuan]

11 minutes ago, nexus6 said:

On the news - means nothing without pricing

Just like pricing rumors for the 8700k? Like people were saying they were going to be $500 MSRP and even though every top end desktop chip has been $350 for years and would you look at that.....it was $350. I expect the 9700k to be around the same also

[porina]

4 minutes ago, Essence_of_Darkness said:

I said if rumour is true, but still Ryzen is huge jump in my workload cause I am still on Phenom 1055T

Wow... I used to have one of those, sold it about 2 years ago and I thought it was rather old then!

3 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

The rumoured 8-core Coffee Lakes will require Z390 boards according to the current rumours, so we'll see how big that backlash will be.

I'd expect the usual cries from people who were never going to get it anyway, but nothing in a meaningful way. If you need more than a 8700k today you still have HEDT options. How many would have 8700k+Z370 and would want to instantly upgrade to 8 core? If you're really considering that, the mobo is not a meaningful hurdle.

[Princess Luna]

Have been telling people about the 8c/16t i7 9700k for months already, only now "rumours" are rising on the subject? lmao

[The Benjamins]

12 minutes ago, Essence_of_Darkness said:

Holy sh** if that rumor is true, then I might just cancel my Ryzen order

well if you are going to wait for this rumor what do you think of the 12c mainstream AMD Zen2 CPU that is rumored for end of 2018

[porina]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Have been telling people about the 8c/16t i7 9700k for months already, only now "rumours" are rising on the subject? lmao

Now I have WCCF link  

[Lawliet93]

Well, you are going to need a new mobo, so... Ryzen it is, because if you buy an AM4 board, you will be able to put every cpu, that Amd is going to release in it. 

[SeanAngelo]

LOL.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, porina said:

Now I have WCCF link  

funny part is that not too long ago someone with an i7 6700k was asking if worth getting the i7 8700k and I said no better wait for Ice Lake i7 9700k since it is a new chipset z390 and 10nm 8c/16t etc all that would be a much better upgrade path.

 

I remember someone calling me an idiot that should learn how to search stuff because the next line up was Cannon Lake, z370 was universal and that Intel was capping it at 6 cores "for sure"

 

Cannon Lake are mobile processors only, it ain't odd Intel always makes a "smaller" gen/architecture to test the node shrink first, we all remember the rare Broadwell line up and processors like the Core i5 5675C which originally featured 14nm but it only really got mainstream on Skylake.

[Dabombinable]

Are they going to use the ringbus, or mesh though?

[asus killer]

Intel just shits on consumers. Years selling basically the same processors, now every 6 months releases new processors with more cores and of course a new mobo.

 

Let me just tell you guys, i love AMD, they deserve my money next time.

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, Dabombinable said:

Are they going to use the ringbus, or mesh though?

Ringbus can be used optimally all the way up to 10 cores so probably is going to stick to it luckily.

[Dylanc1500]

3 minutes ago, Lawliet93 said:

Well, you are going to need a new mobo, so... Ryzen it is, because if you buy an AM4 board, you will be able to put every cpu, that Amd is going to release in it. 

There is some clarification on that, AMD just said that they would support AM4 they never explicitly stated that everything would be interoperable. Intel used socket 775 for a long time but there was a lot of incompatibility with different chipsets, RAM, CPUs and even physical incompatibilities with voltage regulation.

 

If AMD has updated their statement, someone please give me an update.

[FloRolf]

Intel Fanboi beginning of 2017 'nobody needs 8cores, that's completely useless for gaming, quad core ftw, Intel is much better! 

 

Intel Fanboi end of 2017  'OMFG THE NEW 9700K WILL FEATURE 8 CORES, THAT'S THE BIGGEST BREAKTHROUGH IN TECHNOLOGY EVER! 

 

And IPC will be the same as haswell, lol. 

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

(might be already news in LTTF a few months back I think)

Yeah look at the date:

Spoiler

 

[mynameisjuan]

8 minutes ago, asus killer said:

Intel just shits on consumers. Years selling basically the same processors, now every 6 months releases new processors with more cores and of course a new mobo.

Just an FYI but intel is a business, not your friend. If the competitors are sucking ass and they can avoid releasing products until their competitors bother and save money on new manufacturing equipment, so what. Want them to say they are sorry or something? Its a business, get over it.