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Posted · Original PosterOP

i bought this without thinking to check compatity. i thought it would just be standard pci but its not. it fit in the slot but doent fillout all the pins. what even is this standard? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/High-Speed-480Mbps-5-Port-USB-2-0-PCI-Hub-Card-Controller-Adaptor-Module-UK/192312623821?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

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Are we really getting to the point people don't know about PCI?


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1 minute ago, Keithshizuo said:

but its not. it has two gaps and not enough pins

Yes, it is. It's PCI. And quote me next time.


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Just now, Keithshizuo said:

but my regular pci slots have more pins and only 1 gap

PCI and PCI-e are different connections, just make a 30 seconds google search to understand the difference.


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Just now, Keithshizuo said:

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It doesn't matter realistic speaking it is identical, like PCI-e you don't have to fill the entire port, you can put a GPU on a x1 slot and a x1 slot card on the 16x pci-e connector, PCI works the same way all fits one way or another.


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It's still PCI standard it just doesn't need all the pins. The missing ones are just pins that aren't needed


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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Lurick said:

It's still PCI standard it just doesn't need all the pins. The missing ones are just pins that aren't needed

do you have a source for that i could check?

 

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Just now, Keithshizuo said:

but the pinouts are different. one has 2 gapes, the other has one

I know. I think it's fine. If you're paranoid, just get the one with the full pins, but 99% of the time it'll be fine.


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Just now, kelvinhall05 said:

I know. I think it's fine. If you're paranoid, just get the one with the full pins, but 99% of the time it'll be fine.

well its not workig in my slot so can anyone help me with that?

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Just now, Keithshizuo said:

well its not workig in my slot so can anyone help me with that?

Pictures, please.


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32 minutes ago, Keithshizuo said:

but the pinouts are different. one has 2 gapes, the other has one

have you ever heard about 3 volt PCI and 5 volt PCI slots ? 

 

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those "gaps" are key holes. if it has both key holes, it means the card can work in a 3V slot and a 5V

 

and as to why your card is a bit short at the end: i assume it is because these pins are not needed. looking at the pinout, i can see the last 3 contacts on each side carry additional +5V and something related to 64 bit PCI - wich i think are not connected on a 32 bit PCI either way

 


                    :------:------:
               -12V |- B1     A1 -| Test Reset
         Test Clock |- B2     A2 -| +12V
             Ground |- B3     A3 -| Test Mode Select
   Test Data Output |- B4     A4 -| Test Data Input
                +5V |- B5     A5 -| +5V
                +5V |- B6     A6 -| Interrupt A
        Interrupt B |- B7     A7 -| Interrupt C
        Interrupt D |- B8     A8 -| +5V
            PRSNT1# |- B9     A9 -| Reserved
           Reserved |- B10   A10 -| +V I/O
            PRSNT2# |- B11   A11 -| Reserved
                    :------:------:
                    :------:------:
           Reserved |- B14   A14 -| Reserved
             Ground |- B15   A15 -| Reset
              Clock |- B16   A16 -| +V I/O
             Ground |- B17   A17 -| Grant
            Request |- B18   A18 -| Ground
             +V I/O |- B19   A19 -| Reserved
         Address 31 |- B20   A20 -| Address 30
         Address 29 |- B21   A21 -| +3.3V
             Ground |- B22   A22 -| Address 28
         Address 27 |- B23   A23 -| Address 26
         Address 25 |- B24   A24 -| Ground
              +3.3V |- B25   A25 -| Address 24
             C/BE 3 |- B26   A26 -| Init Device Select
         Address 23 |- B27   A27 -| +3.3V
             Ground |- B28   A28 -| Address 22
         Address 21 |- B29   A29 -| Address 20
         Address 19 |- B30   A30 -| Ground
              +3.3V |- B31   A31 -| Address 18
         Address 17 |- B32   A32 -| Address 16
             C/BE 2 |- B33   A33 -| +3.3V
             Ground |- B34   A34 -| Cycle Frame
    Initiator Ready |- B35   A35 -| Ground
              +3.3V |- B36   A36 -| Target Ready
      Device Select |- B37   A37 -| Ground
             Ground |- B38   A38 -| Stop
               Lock |- B39   A39 -| +3.3V
       Parity Error |- B40   A40 -| Snoop Done
              +3.3V |- B41   A41 -| Snoop Backoff
       System Error |- B42   A42 -| Ground
              +3.3V |- B43   A43 -| PAR
             C/BE 1 |- B44   A44 -| Address 15
         Address 14 |- B45   A45 -| +3.3V
       M66EN/Ground |- B46   A46 -| Address 13
         Address 12 |- B47   A47 -| Address 11
         Address 10 |- B48   A48 -| Ground
             Ground |- B49   A49 -| Address 9
                    :------:------:
                    :------:------:
          Address 8 |- B52   A52 -| C/BE 0
          Address 7 |- B53   A53 -| +3.3V
              +3.3V |- B54   A54 -| Address 6
          Address 5 |- B55   A55 -| Address 4
          Address 3 |- B56   A56 -| Ground
             Ground |- B57   A57 -| Address 2
          Address 1 |- B58   A58 -| Address 0
             +5 I/O |- B59   A59 -| +V I/O
 Acknowledge 64-bit |- B60   A60 -| Request 64-bit
                +5V |- B61   A61 -| +5V
                +5V |- B62   A62 -| +5V
                    :------:------:

 

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