8 core Ryzen 3

[Jurrunio]

First of all, this post will lack actual quotes of any article because it's not in a language I know, nor is it from a reputable source. It is interesting though.

 

From Youtube channel 'boxserg', seems to be Russian. It's a new account and all videos are about 1 thing: an 8 core Ryzen 3 1200.

 

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So it seems after Ryzen 5 1600s being shipped with 8 cores and 16 threads, AMD has been kind to us once again by hiding a flagship model underneath the lid of an entry model (silicon lottery for cores, if that makes sense). It does seem to lack SMT, but that wont stop it from trailing the Ryzen 5 1600 in performance

 

(seriously are their production yields on Zen so good they just produce way more fully functioning modules than AMD expected?)

 

Must have been a great surprise to this lucky guy.

 

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[Herman Mcpootis]

either it's a big lie or someone at the manufacturing facility's REALLY fucking up at their jobs. i'm curious as to why it doesn't have hyperthreading.

but take it with a grain of salt.

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, VegetableStu said:

yeah the last thread where I suggested salt on this topic everyone started getting 8-core R5 CPUs everywhere ._.

yeah, but i'll want more evidence before i start counting this as legit. 

[cj09beira]

I think it might just be on perpose, as a marketing bonus, and it's working

[Simon771]

4 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

either it's a big lie or someone at the manufacturing facility's REALLY fucking up at their jobs. i'm curious as to why it doesn't have hyperthreading.

but take it with a grain of salt.

It's called SMT on AMD and not hyperthreading.

Isn't hyperthreading and SMT enabled by changing CPU code? It's not something you have to physically add to the CPU die.

 

Not sure exactly what happened, but last time I check they did cut connections to other parts of the CPU with laser, so you wouldn't be able to just enable all the extra cores.

[FloRolf]

Intel: our i3's are 4 core now! 

Amd: you now have a 2% Chance your R3 is 8core

[samcool55]

Not the first 8-core 1200 to appear and there are also multiple cases of an r5 1600 unlocked to 8C/16T.

They are rare but it seems to me that AMD sometimes just doesn't even bother cutting off the extra cores and leaves them activated as a little bonus.

I mean it's so rare nobody is going to run out buying an r5 1600 with the hope it has 8 cores. it's just way too rare to hope for such thing.

But the lucky few do have a nice bonus

[Taf the Ghost]

@Jurrunio

 

Their yields are really amazing on Zen dies. Most likely this was a working 8c part with a bad SMT on 3ish cores. I'm a little concerned that the whole "turn bits off" people are regularly screwing things up. Now, for "random lottery CPUs", that could be a fun little thing, but it's actually a little bit of a worry.

[Taf the Ghost]

13 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

I think it might just be on perpose, as a marketing bonus, and it's working

Either that or someone is a tad drunk that's supposed to be doing the QA pass on the segmented products.

[samcool55]

Just now, Taf the Ghost said:

Either that or someone is a tad drunk that's supposed to be doing the QA pass on the segmented products.

Don't think that's the case tho because all the cpu's i've seen with extra cores didn't show a sign of instability so the extra unlocked cores were actually good ones, at least that's what i've read about the few that were unlocked.

Could be coincidence but a handful of cpu's with unlocked cores and no stability issues with a single one makes me believe AMD did this actually on purpose? O_o

 

I mean it's positive PR, makes people happy and more people talk about it, seems like a smart move to me from AMD.

[Princess Luna]

Pff, fake and not even deserving to be on the Tech News section, rather we should ask @Slick to create a new forum tier only for these sad rumors.

[79wjd]

31 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

is this related to the 8-core R5s that's been mismanufactured...? If I remember right there's a string in the name to tell where the CPU package was assembled, so I'm thinking if it's from the same factory in malaysia...

Didn't all of those South Korean reports of an 8c r5 turn out to be complete bullshit?

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, samcool55 said:

I mean it's positive PR, makes people happy and more people talk about it, seems like a smart move to me from AMD.

I totally see it the other way around, so you paid 300+ dollars for a 8 cores processor? get rekt by the 110$ 8 cores lucky winner THAT ISN'T YOU HAHAHAHA!

 

Nah completely awful propaganda, rather go Intel so I know I'm not getting rip off due to some shitty QA Passing work from their part.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

Didn't all of those South Korean reports of an 8c r5 turn out to be complete bullshit?

It was as simple as renaming the 1700 as 1600 on registry, not even funny.

[79wjd]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

It was as simple as renaming the 1700 as 1600 on registry, not even funny.

That's what I thought.

[Taf the Ghost]

4 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

Don't think that's the case tho because all the cpu's i've seen with extra cores didn't show a sign of instability so the extra unlocked cores were actually good ones, at least that's what i've read about the few that were unlocked.

Could be coincidence but a handful of cpu's with unlocked cores and no stability issues with a single one makes me believe AMD did this actually on purpose? O_o

 

I mean it's positive PR, makes people happy and more people talk about it, seems like a smart move to me from AMD.

I still think it's more QA problem than anything else.

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

Didn't all of those South Korean reports of an 8c r5 turn out to be complete bullshit?

We've gotten a few reports from all over the globe, and I'm pretty sure a few confirmed.

 

Someone also got the most absolutely golden 1200 that clocks to 4.3 Ghz, generally stable.

[samcool55]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

I totally see it the other way around, so you paid 300+ dollars for a 8 cores processor? get rekt by the 110$ 8 cores lucky winner THAT ISN'T YOU HAHAHAHA!

 

Nah completely awful propaganda, rather go Intel so I know I'm not getting rip off due to some shitty QA Passing work from their part.

Well in this case SMT is disabled so at least you have that.

And you can always buy a ryzen 3 or 5 if you want and hope to get extra cores, but the chances for now are so small it's really unlikely. Like the amount of people that have an 8-core r3 is probably not more than a handful.

 

And it's not shitty QA if it's done on purpose which is actually possible because both R3's and R5's have been spotted with 8 cores.

[ScratchCat]

At their last statement AMD said yields were ~ 90% working dies, probably they have too many good dies so must cut some dies to sell at a lower price. Probably the cut didn't work or if it was software disabled someone managed to enable it, similarly to the 3 core Phenoms.

 

[Princess Luna]

Just now, samcool55 said:

but the chances for now are so small it's really unlikely.

 

Just now, samcool55 said:

And it's not shitty QA if it's done on purpose which is actually possible because both R3's and R5's have been spotted with 8 cores.

Again, all of it is fake.

[samcool55]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

 

Again, all of it is fake.

Suure it's so fake even MSI posted a proper article about it with an r5 1600.

https://www.msi.com/blog/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600-Eight-Core-Revealed-B350-TOMAHAWK

 

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

 

Again, all of it is fake.

Dont be so stubborn. It's AMD, a company that brings many surprises in the past. Most of the time, they just let you do it, unlike Intel which blocks them off.

[79wjd]

11 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

Suure it's so fake even MSI posted a proper article about it with an r5 1600.

https://www.msi.com/blog/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600-Eight-Core-Revealed-B350-TOMAHAWK

 

Is that a random persons review or from MSI official? I'm on mobile and its formatting is terrible so I can't easily tell.

7 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

oh hey that post is still up. that's the one with the naming convention thing.

If AMD hasn't called for a takedown then...

AMD not requesting a takedown doesn't mean anything.

7 minutes ago, ONOTech said:

Changing the CPU name in the registry doesn't change performance though.

 

There have been people on the AMD subreddit reporting 8 core R5s and a few with 8 core R3s and confirmed it with benchmarks. I don't think it's fake, but I understand the skepticism.

No, but if you use an r7 1700 and change its name to an r3 1200, then you'll have an r3 with r7 performance.

[cj09beira]

16 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

 

Again, all of it is fake.

You have zero evidence of that, just because it can be faked it doesn't mean it was faked

[samcool55]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

Is that a random persons review or from MSI official? I'm on mobile and it's formatting is terrible so I can't easily tell.

I don't know what's going on with the formatting, it's also a bit weird on desktop but it is on msi.com which is their official website.

It's a blogpost btw, an overview of them can be found here: https://www.msi.com/Blogs

[79wjd]

1 minute ago, samcool55 said:

I don't know what's going on with the formatting, it's also a bit weird on desktop but it is on msi.com which is their official website.

It's a blogpost btw, an overview of them can be found here: https://www.msi.com/Blogs

Can only MSI employees make blog posts?