iPhone X parts assembled with student labor, potential labor law violations?

[Drak3]

45 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Not wrong, just early. 

 

By a couple hundred years. 

But Dingus only took 36 minutes.

 

10 minutes ago, Septimus said:

@Drak3

I've noticed.

[shermantanker]

1 hour ago, WMGroomAK said:

IMO, this is a problem with the provincial government, Foxconn, the school and Apple (and other companies relying on Foxconn), in that order...  It sounds like the government issues these kind of decisions to carry favor and keep the Foxconn factories thriving, which then necessitates the schools to follow through with the governments orders, however the government would probably not be quite as strong arm in this if Apple and the other companies that rely on Foxconn products were to be more diligent about ensuring these practices don't happen and swap vendors when they do...

Realistically does Apple even have the option of another vendor that can work at the speed and scale required???

[Drak3]

16 minutes ago, shermantanker said:

Realistically does Apple even have the option of another vendor that can work at the speed and scale required???

They could easily work towards manufacturing solely in the US and EU, and be at full speed and scale in a few short years, but that'd cut into their profit margins too much.

[Yoinkerman]

Lol because America has decent internship laws

[PlayStation 2]

Welcome to China. You wanna investigate Foxconn, investigate all the fucking manufacturing facilities in China. I'd bet money all the major ones break many laws.

[mr moose]

It's alright everyone, the Chinese government has undertaken a full investigation and the students were totally there on their own volition and weren't threatened with not passing  if they didn't do it. 

[spartaman64]

On 11/21/2017 at 11:26 PM, mr moose said:

It's alright everyone, the Chinese government has undertaken a full investigation and the students were totally there on their own volition and weren't threatened with not passing  if they didn't do it. 

its still voluntary they could have just chosen to not graduate so its by their own choice /sarcasm

also foxconn said they worked overtime against their policies so you are telling me the students decided to sneak in a few hours of work for free just for the lols??

[mr moose]

1 minute ago, spartaman64 said:

its still voluntary they could have just chosen to not graduate so its by their own choice /sarcasm

 

You're right.  I really shouldn't have had the audacity to be sarcastic when it comes to something as altruistic and honest as the Chinese government. 

[79wjd]

11 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

also foxconn said they worked overtime against their policies so you are telling me the students decided to sneak in a few hours of work for free just for the lols??

They also said they were compensated appropriately. So it's possible they were paid for their overtime hours even though they weren't supposed to be able to work those overtime hours.

 

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Apple said an audit has turned up “instances of student interns working overtime at a supplier facility in China”, adding “we’ve confirmed the students worked voluntarily, were compensated and provided benefits, but they should not have been allowed to work overtime”. 

Foxconn said that “all work was voluntary and compensated appropriately, [but] the interns did work overtime in violation of our policy” prohibiting student interns working more than 40 hours a week. 

 

[Trik'Stari]

But, muh communism, muh greater good! /s

[spartaman64]

54 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

They also said they were compensated appropriately. So it's possible they were paid for their overtime hours even though they weren't supposed to be able to work those overtime hours.

 

 

in the arstechnica article foxconn sai the interns worked overtime in violation of our policy making it seem like the interns were the problem

[79wjd]

6 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

in the arstechnica article foxconn sai the interns worked overtime in violation of our policy making it seem like the interns were the problem

I could see it going either way. Let's assume everyone is telling the truth and they weren't forced (because that would cause a bunch of other problems), at least in my mind, the wording makes it seem that they were able to get around the hour-limit restriction and were being paid for those overtime hours. 

[Godlygamer23]

On 11/21/2017 at 2:34 PM, Legendarypoet said:

Foxconn seems to literally get away with murder at every turn.

Bear in mind that the overtime was voluntary. They were not forced to work that many hours, legal or not(and it wasn't).

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During the course of a recent audit, we discovered instances of student interns working overtime at a supplier facility in China. We've confirmed the students worked voluntarily, were compensated, and provided benefits, but they should not have been allowed to work overtime.

That is the quote from Ars Technica, provided by Apple.

[vorticalbox]

On ‎21‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 8:19 PM, ARikozuM said:

Why does a school require work experience like this? Shouldn't they be doing something in retail, hospice, or medical fields? 

it states "high school".

 

if you were doing computing would you want to do work experience in an unrelated field? 

[mr moose]

8 hours ago, Godlygamer23 said:

Bear in mind that the overtime was voluntary. They were not forced to work that many hours, legal or not(and it wasn't).

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During the course of a recent audit, we discovered instances of student interns working overtime at a supplier facility in China. We've confirmed the students worked voluntarily, were compensated, and provided benefits, but they should not have been allowed to work overtime.

That is the quote from Ars Technica, provided by Apple.

 

In china everything is voluntary.  . 

 

http://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/mobile-phones/shock-footage-bbc-panorama-report-shows-apple-workers-treated-like-prisoners/news-story/ffdf52377764bc60f76481ac8aba078e

 

But you know, the videos are obviously fake.

[ARikozuM]

12 hours ago, vorticalbox said:

it states "high school".

 

if you were doing computing would you want to do work experience in an unrelated field? 

I'm aware and it's what I'm referring to. Why are they doing something like this when it isn't part of their career path?