Google admits it tracked user location data even when the setting was turned off

[Zodiark1593]

43 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

All the more reason to avoid them. 

Well, not exactly many alternatives in the smartphone realm. Windows phone is pretty dead, and iOS doesn't exactly do it for me. The privacy minded may be better off to avoid smartphones altogether.

[crosstiger]

6 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

You don't need every user to buy the next one when your margins are as high as Apples are. 

It's hard to say it in numbers because a: I don't know how much you pay for information. Only certain companys know for sure BUT: selling ~ 212 million iphones in 2016 vs. ~ 1 billion of potential informations hosts ... you don't wanna miss on that.

[mynameisjuan]

4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

We're just messengers. 

Messengers that cause false panic. They have been doing this for years most likely.....Oh look, and nothing has happened over the year...no fucking way. Glad this patch will solve so many problems. /s

[Noctus]

17 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Sure they do, but they don't focus on it since its not nearly as profitable as releasing a new iPhone every year. And you can turn the tracking off......

 

*waits for apple tracking you when they said they aint"

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, crosstiger said:

selling ~ 212 million iphones in 2016 vs. ~ 1 billion of potential informations hosts

When that many iPhones makes up over 90% of the profit made in the entire industry I think Apple is pretty contempt with being a "fat cat" 

[TidaLWaveZ]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

We're just messengers. 

Please don't group yourself with the likes of them.

 

Unless you are telling us that you're making your posts with a hidden agenda. These outlets aren't messengers. You may be, but they are shamelessly taking orders from the highest bidder.

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, Noctus said:

*waits for apple tracking you when they said they aint"

If that Day comes I'll change my stance. 

[mr moose]

7 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

They seem to be competing extremely well. They don't need market share when they make like 90% of the profit in the smartphone market.  

 

I didn't say they weren't competing well, I said if they want to compete they have to track data.   No company can make a product without knowing what the user wants/needs, especially something that can;t be modeled like traffic data or restaurant popularity.

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

they are shamelessly taking orders from the highest bidder.

Yes I'm sure the Verge took a nice paycheck for running that article. 

[Noctus]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

If that Day comes I'll change my stance. 

When*

 

At least be realistic.

[mynameisjuan]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

If that Day comes I'll change my stance. 

C'mon, you will defend Apple no matter the outcome. You always do. 

[crosstiger]

5 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

You don't get to call consumers stupid when they are the only reason a company like Google can exist. 

I think it's more like "patching it". I don't think that google desperately needs those - always online - data. It could very well be that they will only receive data every 10 hours (or I don't know... maybe just every 10 seconds…). But I don't think that they will turn it off completely.

 

And consumers are VERY stupid. We will buy everything a company throws at us...

 

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Noctus said:

When*

 

At least be realistic.

Just present evidence. How about that? 

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, mynameisjuan said:

You always do.

Sure.....

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, crosstiger said:

And consumers are VERY stupid. We will buy everything a company throws at us...

Consumers can be exploited, calling your revenue stream stupid to them is a sure fire way to lose them. 

[FratStar]

*facepalm*

 

These are the same services used by 911 operators to find your approximate location in the event of an emergency. It really isn't much of an issue tbh. Does Google need this information? No but there is far more benefit than not. Google's software is probably more sophisticated than what you would find in most 911 operators places and even the carriers (Who also collect that data btw).

 

These stories about this are very misleading.

[TidaLWaveZ]

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Yes I'm sure the Verge took a nice paycheck for running that article. 

No, the probably have stockpile of anti company x articles to run at the request of their beneficiary.

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, TidaLWaveZ said:

No, the probably have stockpile of anti company x articles to run at the request of their beneficiary.

I'm sure. 

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, FratStar said:

It really isn't much of an issue tbh.

The issue was that it wasn't turned off when you told it to turn off. And what was misleading? There was very little opinion or commentary in the article. 

[TidaLWaveZ]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

I'm sure. 

Lol, I wouldn't expect someone with such a blind devotion to believe that just about every online news outlet is full of shit.

[FratStar]

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

The issue was that it wasn't turned off when you told it to turn off. 

You turned off Android location services your location with regards to the cell towers you connect to will always be reported whether it's to the carrier or 911 operator. That doesn't get turned off because idk? Safety. Google was collecting that data.

The article treats those services as if they are one in the same and it is not. Do I think Google should collect it anyway? No not without asking, but this is overblown.

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

I wouldn't expect someone with such a blind devotion to believe that just about every online news outlet is full of shit.

I wouldn't be surprised if you thought every media outlet has no credibility. 

[Noctus]

4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Just present evidence. How about that? 

Don't know if you could handle that sort of thing. You'd probably kill yourself for finding out apple are "bad".

4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Sure.....

Yes you do.

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, FratStar said:

That doesn't get turned off because idk? Safety. Google was collecting that data.

It doesn't matter, they are turning off the collection. 

[FratStar]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

It doesn't matter, they are turning off the collection. 

Because of fear mongering about big brother. We are not talking about whether or not they are turning it off that's not relevant to any of our points.