EA fires PvZ creator for rejecting P2W

[ItsMitch]

It appears that EA can't stop causing controversy in gaming this past few week and they've stepped it up a lot, coming in from multiple news sources and reddit hitting 17k up votes at the time of posting this. EA has fired its PvZ 

 

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Original story, 10.22 am: Edmund McMillen, the designer of The Binding of Isaac and Super Meat Boy, was recently on Roundtable Podcast and rattled off a story about his friend George Fan who was sacked by EA for not agreeing with the pay-to-win model that the publisher wanted to introduce in Plants vs Zombies 2: It's About Time.

Fan was hired by, at the time, independent developer PopCap to create Plants vs Zombies, which was released in 2009 and became a huge success for the studio. In 2011, PopCap Games was acquired by Electronic Arts in a deal worth $750 million and work began on a sequel. However, Fan wasn't happy when EA proposed a pay-to-win model for the anticipated sequel and was subsequently fired after he showed resistance. 

 

Video is here: 

 

Mr Fan's tweet 

https://twitter.com/thegeorgefan/status/932996506667204609

My input on this is; EA STOP DOING STUPID SHIT AND FIRING OVER P2W MTS BULLSHIT thanks

 

Source: https://www.videogamer.com/news/ea-fired-plants-vs-zombies-creator-for-disagreeing-with-sequels-pay-to-win-model

Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/7ea983/ea_fired_plants_vs_zombies_creator_for_objecting/

 

 

[Juanitology]

Fucking EA.. I haven't bought a game from them in years but this still pisses me off. There needs to be a massive boycott of their games, they won't get the message just from reddit downvotes.

[sof006]

This will definitely make me think twice before buying a game from EA in the future. Sorry EA but you've lost a customer.

[Tech Enthusiast]

I get the idea of being a buisiness and wanting maxed out profits,...

 

.. i just hate that maxed profits are possible without caring for reputation whatsoever. 

 

Blizzard is doing an awesome job.

CD Project Red is doing an awesome job.

Both are filthy rich and got there by making people happy and games that are not P2W, but simply great.

 

How in the world can EA make even bigger profits with all the crap reputation and lackluster games?

 

The question, i guess, is: Why are gamers so awfully dumb and ignore everything once some of their loved IPs release a new game. Damn.

[Lathlaer]

Goddamit and I am actually waiting for Anthem next year

 

10 minutes ago, Rattenmann said:

Both are filthy rich and got there by making people happy and games that are not P2W, but simply great.

Agree although I wouldn't put CD Project Red there - sure they made awesome game but they are nowhere near being "filthy rich" if you consider how much creating AAA games costs.

[Tech Enthusiast]

17 minutes ago, Lathlaer said:

Goddamit and I am actually waiting for Anthem next year

 

Agree although I wouldn't put CD Project Red there - sure they made awesome game but they are nowhere near being "filthy rich" if you consider how much creating AAA games costs.

Follow their twitter for a while. 

You will notice just how many people they are hiring. At least one per week, if not more. 

 

The money is real over there. But they also use it to make even better games, so they see it as a form of investment i guess. 

EA on the other hand just makes crap and pays marketing to sell it to as many people as possible before the flaws show up on too many news outlets.

[Rune]

What is EA even doing

[ItsMitch]

Just now, Rune said:

What is EA even doing

EA is just being EA tbf

Oh EA this just came out a hour ago http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/esports/article-5104777/5-500-FIFA-18-fans-sign-petition-EA-fix-game.html

[Lathlaer]

24 minutes ago, Rattenmann said:

Follow their twitter for a while. 

You will notice just how many people they are hiring. At least one per week, if not more. 

I don't have to follow their twitter to see their revenue reports and estimated net worth. 

 

But sure, let's see their hiring policy if you mentioned that.

 

As of 2017, per their wikipedia page, they have 700 employees. Blizzard has over 4k, EA has double that. 

 

I am not disputing that CD Project Red is a good game designer because they are. But putting them in the same sentence as Blizzard when comparing to EA is a ridiculus misunderstanding. It's like this saying - when it comes to earnings, you can't even say that they are not in the same league - they are not even playing the same sport.

[Matu20]

EA just wants to be hated again, they were doing quite well considering their past history over the last few years.

[PocketNerd]

Here's a bit more info on the matter, apparently this is a little more complicated than a simple "He got fired immediately for disagreeing with management." He also wasn't working on PvZ2

https://kotaku.com/widespread-rumor-about-ea-firing-plants-vs-zombie-crea-1820649466

 

 

[Bigbootyjudy]

EA:

 

[Not_Sean]

Honestly, I think its safe to say I'll never buy another EA game again. I'll let my wallet speak of my disgust. 

[79wjd]

 

3 hours ago, Rattenmann said:

I get the idea of being a buisiness and wanting maxed out profits,...

 

.. i just hate that maxed profits are possible without caring for reputation whatsoever. 

 

Blizzard is doing an awesome job.

CD Project Red is doing an awesome job.

Both are filthy rich and got there by making people happy and games that are not P2W, but simply great.

 

How in the world can EA make even bigger profits with all the crap reputation and lackluster games?

 

The question, i guess, is: Why are gamers so awfully dumb and ignore everything once some of their loved IPs release a new game. Damn.

EA - $4.85 billion in revenue, $1.2 billion net income. 

Blizzard - $2.4 billion in revenue, $223 million net income.

CDPR - $200 million in revenue, $95 million profit. 

 

All pulled from Wikipedia. The data doesn't exactly put the three companies on an even remotely similar footing. 

[Eaglerino]

PvZ2 made me so sad. All I can hope for is some indie guy to come by and make a Stardew Valley-Harvest Moon type PvZ clone in glorious HD

[8uhbbhu8]

EA this month:

[AresKrieger]

I think EA believes they have Comcast levels immunity to bad PR, unfortunately they seem to not understand they are not a monopoly

[Crunchy Dragon]

I was actually planning on getting the new BF2 until I heard about everything being DLC or whatever. And even after EA "fixed" the problem, I still might not buy it. I've always liked the PvZ series though, hopefully the developer can make a good turnaround similar to Respawn Entertainment after splitting from Activision.

[ARikozuM]

With all this news, I'm surprised people are still going for the yearly-release games that companies put out. It's been nearly three or four decades of EA making yearly publications of their titles and it looks like the majority is just now getting fed up with this crap. What happened to those guys complaining about Activision's CoD franchise, which still had a good studio (Treyarch), producing good games allowing you to skip the following year.

 

Single-player is dead in the eyes of the big shots and pretty soon everything will be multi-player grind-fests with loot packs (I don't mind if the system is implemented well with appropriate chances through gameplay only like R6S or Overwatch). Being given crates that require purchased keys like Rocket League or CS:GO are reasons why I won't pay for those and choose to just sell them on receipt. 

[RagnarokDel]

I subscribed to EA access for the vault a day before the EA controversy started (lots of games in the vaults I wanted to play but never got around to buying let alone playing)

[JoshB2084]

[RyomaSJibenG]

i really like the first PvZ, i knew there's something off with PvZ2 which is why i didn't play it, now i know why

[D13H4RD]

Thanks Andrew....

[Taf the Ghost]

I am liking "Hating on EA" week.

[leadeater]

13 hours ago, Terodius said:

Fucking EA.. I haven't bought a game from them in years but this still pisses me off. There needs to be a massive boycott of their games, they won't get the message just from reddit downvotes.

Just need to get a few million people to setup an automated email to EA that runs every 30 seconds, even if they blacklist you their mail filter still has to process it.... lol. Total inability send and receive emails might get some kind of message through.