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CD Projekt Red tell PC Gamer: "Cyberpunk 2077 will have online elements to ensure its long term success"

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Translation: Microtransactions up the wazoo

 

Industry good guys did an interview with PC Gamer (in Polish) and they talked a little bit about Cyberpunk, the highly anticipated new game they're currently developing.

 

They basically said they're still not ready to talk specifics about the game but they did confirm the game will be using online elements (including seamless multiplayer) "to ensure its long term success"

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We still don't know all that much about CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077, however we did learn last year that it could feature "seamless multiplayer". Now, company CEO Adam Kiciński has suggested it'll include online elements so as to ensure its long-term success.

 

"We want to experiment in new fields that were not yet explored in the Witcher," says Kiciński above, as translated by YouTube's English subtitles. "I can’t say much about Cyberpunk, although our ambitions are set really high because that is our style of work. We want to go even higher, and especially seeing how we’re having a business chat, we’re interested in Cyberpunk being commercially even more significant."

When asked about Multiplayer he went on to say

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"Online is necessary, or very recommended if you wish to achieve a long-term success. At some point, we have mentioned that there will be a certain online element related to Cyberpunk."

http://www.pcgamer.com/cyberpunk-2077-will-include-online-elements-to-ensure-long-term-success-says-cd-projekt/

 

You can call me sceptical if you like (and you're probably right too) but this is a bad sign IMO, taking about how important online intergration is to the game before they released any info on the game at all sets alarm bells ringing.

 

I'd wager money on CD Projekt Red being the next studio to take the plunge into Microtransactions, maybe not full on loot boxes but something more than just paying for the game.

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I thought that we already knew for quite some time that Cyberpunk 2077 will feature some online elements?

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Just now, WereCat said:

I thought that we already knew that Cyberpunk 2077 will feature some online elements?

See this....

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We want to go even higher, and especially seeing how we’re having a business chat, we’re interested in Cyberpunk being commercially even more significant.

They're building the game around microtransactions

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"Online is necessary, or very recommended if you wish to achieve a long-term success. At some point, we have mentioned that there will be a certain online element related to Cyberpunk."

 

Well there is an online element related to the Witcher 3 already out it's called Gwent and it's a stand alone card game. But I understand that perhaps I'm being generous with this interpretation and they're just fucked realizing AAA quality development doesnt pays.

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2 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Thats not exactly what it says. It may sound like it but it may not be it, hard to say... it is quite a blank statement.

Ive gotten to the point where, when it comes to gaming, I simply refuse to believe anything they say means anything other than "gimme all your fucking money you bunch of plebs" anymore.

 

Seems like they're doing the slow drip feed method of telling us in the hope it won't turn into a PR disaster when they finally drop the ball.

 

I've said it many times in the various EA and SWBF2 threads over the past few weeks, by the end of the decade I fully expect EVERY AAA game to be nothing more that card pack opening and or loot box opening.

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12 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

They're building the game around microtransactions

Full quote is this, and you posted it. 

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"We want to experiment in new fields that were not yet explored in the Witcher," says Kiciński above, as translated by YouTube's English subtitles. "I can’t say much about Cyberpunk, although our ambitions are set really high because that is our style of work. We want to go even higher, and especially seeing how we’re having a business chat, we’re interested in Cyberpunk being commercially even more significant."

It may literally mean something like Assassin's Creed or Mass Effect MP, or probably something completely different. I'm not saying they won't implement microtransactions (highly possible they will) but out of all game companies CDPR has earned the right of doubt before jumping to conclusions and literally pulling them from 3 sentences.

I'm pretty sure they won't be build the game around them even if they implement them, but this way of reasoning is becoming ridiculous, even if you turn out to be correct. 

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4 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

Ive gotten to the point where, when it comes to gaming, I simply refuse to believe anything they say means anything other than "gimme all your fucking money you bunch of plebs" anymore.

 

Seems like they're doing the slow drip feed method of telling us in the hope it won't turn into a PR disaster when they finally drop the ball.

 

I've said it many times in the various EA and SWBF2 threads over the past few weeks, by the end of the decade I fully expect EVERY AAA game to be nothing more that card pack opening and or loot box opening.

I get you, so many games are just a cash grab ... but there are still studios that do a great job making an awesome games with lenghty story and no BS around.

Larian Studio, CD Project so far have been a great example and if they decide to go down the dark path then so be it... just dont preorder, buy what you like, dont buy what you hate. It is really simple.

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choo choo! hop on the Lootbox train CDPR!!! CHOO fucking CHOO

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If it's one company that I believe won't fuck up, it's CDPR because of Witcher 3. Witcher 3 is one of the best games made, and it is even cheaper than most AAA games, and the expansions had loads of content.

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I know everyone is on this bandwagon of hatred towards gaming companies that implement micro transactions in their games. But honestly it's not their fault for how it ended.

Companies work in a very easy way to understand. They have a product, they sell that product, and along the way they try to find different ways to make more money from that product. Whether it's through find ways of making that product cheaper to produce, or in case of games find ways to bring more people/money in, mostly through DLCs.

Now they found a way to make more money through micro transactions. Selling power-ups, characters, weapons, health, ammo, etc.

Now like I said companies work in a simple way to understand. What they do is come up with an idea, implement that idea and push it and see how people react to it.

 

If people don't like it, they take it back. However if the people are ok with it, they push even further and further until they hit that point in which it's no longer acceptable.

And the people have decided that they are ok and want more micro transactions in their games. Remember it doesn't matter that some random idiot made a video on YouTube, saying this is a catastrophe. Even if said video gets thousands of views.

What matters is if the majority of people buy it. And the sad truth is the majority have decided that micro transactions are what they want in games.

 

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I don't think there will be any microtransaction here, or at least it's not going to be the main selling point (only skins), unless they're focusing on the multiplayer aspect. But it's been a rough couple of years for CDPR from what I've heard with their unstable condition inside of the office, I'd be a little skeptical with their business model right now.

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Not sure if I like this, they made The Witcher 3 is a long term success simply by being good, it'd be a shame see one of the best gaming studios getting into microtransactions as well....

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i dont mind microtransactions, as long as they are 100% cosmetic. online elements to ensure long term sucess could be a lot of things tbh

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1 hour ago, NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle said:

What matters is if the majority of people buy it. And the sad truth is the majority have decided that micro transactions are what they want in games.

 

Yep, the majority is buying games with micro transactions and either using those features or you get enough "whales" that make it profitable.

 

They are like any other company.  CDPR requires money to stay afloat.  Also, people sure forgot all that up in arms over the downgrade and hairworks on Witcher 3 it seems.

 

Another thing to keep in mind, CDPR has stock which they only control around 33% of now.

Or, by what their own shareholder page show:

https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/investors/shareholders/

 

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wth, why is everyone immediately jumping to conclusion they'e adding micro-transactions?

 

There's a LOT of things "online elements" can mean, including the one mentioned in the article "seamless multiplayer"

 

What have you done EA, you've made blind multiplayer hating sheeps =/

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Like said, was already mentioned. Doesn't automatically mean microtransactions or p2w mp play too. Though mp seems interesting for such a game and I'm excited for both parts. I know they won't sacrifice sp experience cause of online part of the game. 

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Today's video games are best described as low hanging fruit. Oversimplified to appeal to the masses with an injection of loot boxes. Its disheartening to see the direction of video games and its been going on for a while. I'm not against publishers making money. However I am against publishers trying to milk me and other consumers for every red cent they can. CDPR Is a publisher i like based on their past business practices. However if this turn out to be true, I can no longer support CDPR with my money. I was looking forward to cyberpunk 2077. I will not condemn the company at this time, maybe cyberpunk will be a MMORPG. 

 

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I'm inclined to believe that CD Projekt Red isn't going to include micro-transactions as they've shown no signs of being scum bags to date, they are not EA Ubisoft or activision yet so give them the benefit of the doubt as they've earned it so far

 

Additionally given there stance on DRM it is likely that they simply intend to make a game with online features to avoid adding dedicated DRM but essentially making the games features itself encourage actually buying there game

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personally i don't care too much if a game do tonnes of micro transaction because once they do, i simply don't play or buy it. I download the crack game and play the campaign and call it a day if its decent.

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Jumping to conclusions, are we?

 

And I really trust them, even if they put some kind of microtransactions, I dont think it will be the cancerous kind (after all, they realeased TW3 without DRM, and the expansions where crazy cheap and the size of full games). So yeah, I will hold on before freaking out.

 

And to be honest, I played dota for years and never spent a cent, and it never bothered me this cosmetic item for sale stuff. Nowadays its worse because they make more and more itens all the time, but the only thing that really gets me is when you can pay to win. Otherwise? Be happy paying while I play for free my whole life.

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9 minutes ago, Biggerisbetter said:

 There has not been a game in the last 5 years worth paying full retail. Going forward I dont see any games worth paying full retail either. Therefore aging gamers like myself with more disposal income. Dont see the need to upgrade there computers or buy games at release. My friends and I are to aware of the direction of the industry. We are being slowly pushed out. Games have become to simple and unchallenging. 

Either you are radical, or you are exagerating, or you simply just dont lime games anymore.

The witcher 3 was one of the games that was worth MORE than its full price, divinity original sin 2 is also a game worth way more than what it was sold... And im sure that are many more that I forgot or just dont know. And im not talking only about game quality, but also the mindset of the company.

 

And even games that are from "sold out" companies can be amazing. I really like fallout 4 even with its flaws, and if I were to not play because of ideolgy I would lose 250h of having a good time.

 

Maybe you just dont like games anymore, it happens, life changes. But dont blame it on the industry, because there is still MANY excellent games out there, just like there are many bad ones. 

Like music, people always like the past and criticize the present, and every generation EVER does the same thing.

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1 hour ago, crystal6tak said:

wth, why is everyone immediately jumping to conclusion they'e adding micro-transactions?

 

There's a LOT of things "online elements" can mean, including the one mentioned in the article "seamless multiplayer"

 

What have you done EA, you've made blind multiplayer hating sheeps =/

mentally ill.  

we dont even know wtf this game is, not even the genre, so online elements can mean anything

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If it doesn't provide shit like STBF2 then it should be fine, cosmetics are cool and all; I still have faith in CDPR. 

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5 hours ago, Master Disaster said:

Ive gotten to the point where, when it comes to gaming, I simply refuse to believe anything they say means anything other than "gimme all your fucking money you bunch of plebs" anymore.

 

Seems like they're doing the slow drip feed method of telling us in the hope it won't turn into a PR disaster when they finally drop the ball.

 

I've said it many times in the various EA and SWBF2 threads over the past few weeks, by the end of the decade I fully expect EVERY AAA game to be nothing more that card pack opening and or loot box opening.

While I agree for EA and other AAA publishers and devs, CDPR is the one company that used to be pointed out as the exception and the way to do things instead so the fact that they're folding to me is 1000x more alarming sign of the state of this industry as EA just doing EA things, Ubi doing Ubi things, etc.

 

TL;DR - If even the indie players are going this route, we are truly and thoroughly fucked.

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